EP. 334 — A Beauty and the Beast Christmas LIVE!

Paul Scheer [00:00:00] Hello, people of Earth, Or should I say (British accent) “Hello, Governor.” Because for the first time ever, How Did This Get Made is going on a European tour slash vacation to the United Kingdom and Ireland. Yes, you’ve asked for it. We are doing it from March 28th to April 3rd, we will be traveling around London, Glasgow, Belfast and Dublin. Tickets are on sale now. Head to HDTGM.com for more information. Mr. Jackass meets Miss Xmas. We saw Beauty and the Beast Christmas, so you know what that means.

 

Music [00:00:52] [Intro Song]

 

Paul Scheer [00:01:34] Hello, people of Earth, and hello people of Minneapolis. We are in Minnesota for the first time ever in the heart of Minneapolis to talk about one of the best Christmas movies ever made. The year, 2019. The topic, Social media Influencers. Really gets to the heart of what Christmas is all about. Like follow. Subscribe. All of those things come into play. I will say this when you hear the title Beauty and the Beast Christmas, It’s not to be confused with the Disney one with Paul Reubens and Tim Curry as an evil organ. No, no. This is a different kind of beauty and the beast. As a matter of fact, I would say if you’re familiar with the story of Beauty and the Beast, it shares very little with that. So much so that I was waiting for. Who’s the beauty and who’s the beast? I think I know I don’t want to break it down any more than that, but all I will say is two flailing social media stars find a perfect union. It’s weird. Again, that’s enough. That’s enough information if you haven’t seen it. We’ll break it all down. But first, let me introduce my co-host. Please welcome to the stage Mr. Jason Mantzoukas.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:19] What’s up, Jerks? That’s right. That’s right. How we do in Minneapolis? Last night of the tour. What’s up balcony? Holy shit. The balcony is fucking wasted.

 

Paul Scheer [00:03:44] Jason, you and I have done a lot of movies on this podcast. A lot of movies.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:49] You tell me that. But sure, it’s been, what, 13 years?

 

Paul Scheer [00:03:57] There is a moment, though, in doing this podcast where I think to myself, well, it can’t get any weirder. And. And this one really…

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:08] Broke you?

 

Paul Scheer [00:04:08] Yeah. In a way that was like, Wow, wow.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:15] Here’s the essential question I have that I expect for all of us at the end of the podcast to understand the answer. Who is beauty? Who is the Beast? Who is beauty and who is the beast?

 

Paul Scheer [00:04:32] A question that I started off with. Yes, it will be answered. And you know what? There’s no one better than to answer that question. Then my other co-host, please welcome June Diane Raphael! Welcome, June. How are you?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:05:03] I’m okay. I’m okay. It’s so hard. You know, I. I love the holidays. I love Christmas. I love. I loved it all until today when I had to see this movie. And I’m really concerned because we’ve done two Christmas movies in the last four days. And, um, I am. I was getting close to getting in the spirit, and now I hate Christmas. It’s dumb. It’s to much.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:35] Both movies made me want to become a Scrooge or a Grinch.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:05:37] And Jason, you and I backstage last night were talking about the holidays. What we love about the holidays, We’re talking about our ornaments. We’re talking about our trees.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:46] Our traditions, how much we love the holidays.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:05:49] We’re talking about Paul’s Christmas village.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:52] And and today I was like, I’ll be dead by then.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:05:55] Oh, I don’t wanna. I don’t want.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:59] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:01] So, yeah, this is. This has got to stop. I can’t do this again.

 

Paul Scheer [00:06:04] Okay.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:06] Well, I’m not going to lie. This was chilling on every single level and how much of I believe an accurate portrayal of influencer lifestyle it is, is its most scathing indictment.

 

Paul Scheer [00:06:21] Here’s what I will say. There’s a question on the table. Who is beauty? Who is beast? We’ll get to that.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:29] I’ll answer it right now. Noah is the beauty. Francesca is the beast, the end.

 

Paul Scheer [00:06:38] Okay. All right. Wow. Okay. Interesting. Now you say Francesca.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:44] Who’s Francesca?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:45] I knew you wouldn’t remember.

 

Paul Scheer [00:06:46] Ginger holiday?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:48] No, Noah is his son.

 

Paul Scheer [00:06:51] Noah? Who’s Noah?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:56] His son.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:57] No, it’s the little boy.

 

Paul Scheer [00:06:57] Oh, boy. A little boy. Yes. Thank you.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:00] And Francesca is the girl.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:03] Sister?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:04] Yeah.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:04] The little sister who just inexplicably appears?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:08] And then disappears.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:09] Oh, Bo is just put in charge of? She’s my little sister. Now, I will say. I will say that Larissa You might recognize her.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:21] Larissa Lucifer?

 

Paul Scheer [00:07:22]  Yeah. Larissa Lucifer Yeah. Well, you might recognize Larissa. Did you guys not?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:29] She did look familiar, actually.

 

Paul Scheer [00:07:31] Oh, I jumped up when I saw her.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:32] No. Oh, I have zero.

 

Paul Scheer [00:07:35] Open marriage y’all. Open marriage. Remember?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:39] She’s in an open marriage?

 

Paul Scheer [00:07:40] No, the movie that we did.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:45] That’s a movie we did?

 

Paul Scheer [00:07:46] We did. We did a movie called Open Marriage. Right? It was about like the couple that decided that they were going to have an open marriage. And then one gets obsessed with the other one and they get shot in the head.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:00] What? I don’t think so. Wait. Oh, wait, wait. The one with the underground sex club?

 

Paul Scheer [00:08:08] Yes.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:08:08] Is this one? Wait a second. Is this the one where it all takes place in, like, a photographer’s loft? Yes. Okay, great. Great.

 

Paul Scheer [00:08:15] Slightly, because you’re also.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:18] What do you mean, slightly?

 

Paul Scheer [00:08:18] Because there’s also the one with the high school photography. That’s different. Okay. That is the photographer who is obsessed. This is two couples, the underground sex club. And one gets more into it than the other.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:36] And this is just to identify who.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:08:39] Larissa.

 

Paul Scheer [00:08:40] Larissa. Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:42] The other woman?

 

Paul Scheer [00:08:43] Yes. But I will say this.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:46] You. I’m so sorry. Just to have gotten all the way there. And I want to just go back to the beginning because you said you jumped up. You jumped up. That is that connotes a level of excitement and surprise. That is. I’ll be honest. Shocking.

 

Paul Scheer [00:09:04] I was like, Oh, shit. The girl from over there.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:08] You did the Leo meme? I know what it is.

 

Paul Scheer [00:09:15] I was I was excited to see her because I thought that she was great. I thought she brought a lot to this. But again, I don’t want to go off on Larissa because she comes in in the third act. The question I wanted to ask you was this. And this is an honest, earnest question. Is this a comedy or is it not? Because I’m watching it and at points I’m like, Oh, it’s a comedy. And then immediately after I’m like, I don’t think it is like I. I don’t know if these choices like, yes, there are jokes, but then there was like, Is it meta? It’s not meta. I don’t think it’s meta.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:53] There are, I believe, moments of meta commentary that I don’t know if people are in on or not. Simply by the nature of doing this, they are at certain points just absolutely making fun of what it is they are doing. I think someone is, even though the edit is being cruel to them or I’m not sure what, but there is a level of insanity that’s happening in this movie that I would also believe if you told me none of these people knew they were being filmed. And they were just people having like psychic breaks that they were like, influencers gone wild.

 

Paul Scheer [00:10:31] Well, the beginning of this movie really hurt my brain because when you meet Ginger Holliday, it looks like I don’t know what’s happening. Right. Because there’s no blocking or framing to let you know, this is like a YouTube video. But watch this. This is like this. The opening scene fucked me up. Clip one.

 

Movie Audio [00:10:56] Hi, I’m Ginger Holliday. It’s only 207 days till Christmas, but that’s not too soon to start celebrating all the merriness, all of the brightness, the festive festivities.

 

Paul Scheer [00:11:08] And I’m like, okay, she’s talking to me.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:11:17] Yeah. Pause for a second. This is not her YouTube channel, babe.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:20] Yeah, this is heart to heart. The TV channel.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:11:22] This is a package. Yeah. This is where it gets confusing and why your brain broke. This is a TV package about her.

 

Paul Scheer [00:11:30] But she’s talking directly to camera. I thought, Oh, we’re watching. Like an Our Town.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:34] I believe. I believe both are true.

 

Paul Scheer [00:11:36] Okay.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:37] No, no, I’m sorry. I don’t believe both are true. I believe this is meant to simulate what her content is, but there is a now a voiceover on top of it, which is the heart to heart. Which is a channel I subscribe to under Amazon Prime. It is top notch entertainment news. They cover only the characters in Hallmark and Lifetime Christmas movies. Just the characters lives.

 

Paul Scheer [00:12:07] And that’s part of the agreement. When you sign up to do a lifetime of you have to act like like Sacha Baron Cohen. You have to be Ali G and you have to go around and do you have to.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:12:15] By the way, though, this is not a Lifetime movie.

 

Paul Scheer [00:12:19] It’s an Ion movie.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:12:20] And I but I want to clarify that because we must put some respect on the Lifetime holiday franchise.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:27] I agree. I agree.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:12:30] Okay. Because their holiday movies are are shot in Vancouver, I think. And they are shot in cold Christmasy towns.

 

Paul Scheer [00:12:40] Or at least they put some snow on the ground.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:43] This movie is not interested in Christmas vibes at all. Here’s what they’ve got. Access to a legitimate mansion. Yeah. And $40 worth of dollar store Christmas decorations.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:12:56] And it’s so hard because.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:58] That’s what they got.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:12:59] That was the budget. When are we going to talk about her rash?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:06] Oh. I mean, her rash. You know what? We can talk about it now because that will allow us at least 2 hours to talk about how the fact that she has never been kissed. This lead character has never dot, dot, dot been kissed. I wrote in my notes, Is she a virgin? And then cut to She’s never been kissed?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:13:35] Yes, definitely a virgin.

 

Paul Scheer [00:13:36] It makes a lot of sense because this character, I can’t find my way in or out of her. I’m like, What is.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:13:44] Any adult woman who wears colored stockings multiple days in a row is a virgin.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:53] Here’s the thing. If you’re dressed like a fuckin candy cane.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:13:56] Yeah.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:56] Hard pass.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:13:59] This woman is so deeply unwell.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:04] As as somebody who’s obsessed with Christmas 365 and makes Christmas their identity.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:14:11] Yeah.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:12] And puts it primarily over fucking.

 

Paul Scheer [00:14:17] I would argue all relationships. All relationships.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:14:22] Well, except for her relationship with Kensington.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:25] Yes.

 

Paul Scheer [00:14:27] What is Kensington? Is Kensington a butler?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:30] I wrote. I started writing down every single thing Kensington did to be like, What is what capacity is she here in? Can everyone see her? Is he invisible? What is going on?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:14:42] I thought the too at one point I was like.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:45] Because almost nobody talks to her.

 

Paul Scheer [00:14:47] No.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:14:48] She’s truly, during the food fight scene and we were jumping all around. But during that scene, inexplicably, Kensington walks in to it and starts to get in on the action.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:00] I think in these kind of wholesome movies, Food fight is the sex scene. This is my pitch. They get to touch on each other. They get to do all sorts of business with each other physically. And it’s got it’s charged because there is no sex scene. We’re never going to build to that. I think the food fight is the Hallmark movie, the wholesome movies version of.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:15:26] Not a Hallmark movie, though.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:27] To be clear, this Ion original. Is that what this is? I don’t want to misrepresent it. But Minneapolis, did you guys make this? Is Ion a local company?

 

Paul Scheer [00:15:42] But here’s what I’ll argue to you. The idea of, like, a fun, sexy food fight is disgusting to me.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:15:50] So gross.

 

Paul Scheer [00:15:50] Like, I don’t want to be covered in mashed potatoes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:55] A food fight as foreplay? I also don’t like it when people feed each other’s stuff. Go wash your hands.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:16:04] GROSS.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:05] Get away from me, you monster.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:16:09] I also feel like her version of Christmas that she’s into is so fucking weird. It’s like she’s into and there are certain, like the Dickensian Christmas. There’s certain types of the carolers, all that that I can I can get down with. But her Christmas interests are so bizarre. And stiff.

 

Paul Scheer [00:16:30] But let’s be honest, though. She’s creating 365 days of content for Christmas since she’s 13. At this point, it’s going to go off the rails. She’s got to be like, Hey, alright, cranberry underwear! We’re doing it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:48]  This movie exists at a level where she has such. The the weight of her audiences, her influencer audience weighs so heavily on her as to rob Christmas. Where they say, well you’ve been gone for a month, answer for yourself.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:17:05] But can I say something? I want to say something about her content calendar because I was confused as to why she didn’t bank extra content.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:17] Oh, June.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:17] Seems insane, especially in the lead up to the gala.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:17:22] We got a lot going on!

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:24] Can I ask a quick question? And I don’t often like to like ask status kind of questions, but have you guys ever been invited to her gala?

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:32] I mean, that’s the thing. I always think we’re going to get an invite and we never get one. I mean, June, you got one, but you didn’t get a you didn’t get a plus one.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:17:39] No.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:39] I got one one year. But it said you can only come at midnight.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:43] See, that’s it.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:17:44] So I would like to spend roughly the next hour and a half discussing the logistics and the infrastructure and the mission of her charity.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:56] Yes. Yes, Yes, and it’s unparalleled success. 20. She’s building 20 homes a year. That is a level of success. That is astronomical.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:12] Here’s what I didn’t understand, though, here.

 

Paul Scheer [00:18:14] When I heard 20 homes, there is a part. This is when I wrote down, is this a comedy or is it not? Because I understood it to be. She was creating 20 homes for Christmas Day and then kicking them back out.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:31] So I don’t think that’s true. But what is unresolved? So it’s a great quote. There’s so many questions about this charity.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:39] Please. Please look into it. Please, Better Business Bureau, whoever investigates, look into this charity, because I got to be honest, that home is pretty stately.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:52] One of the things that I couldn’t understand is, she says the reason why she wants to do it is because every and I think this is where you are confused is because nobody should be alone over the holidays. And so, yeah, you are forced to ask the question, is it a home just for the holidays? And then are you Airbnbing it? What I couldn’t understand is who’s with the foster children in the home? Who’s with them? What’s the what is it? How does that work?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:21] What’s the infrastructure? And are these these are foster children who can’t find homes. So aren’t these just thought orphans? Isn’t she making orphanages? And doesn’t that make her a villain? Now. Hear me out. Hear me out! 365 days a year. He creates content just so people help her build kid prisons.

 

Paul Scheer [00:19:48] She’s a modern day Fagan. This is Oliver Twist.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:19:52] Actually, I was watching this movie and thinking, like, how fucked the foster care system is in the United States. And I was like, You know what? You fucking bitch. Take that money and give it to the families so they can keep kids in their homes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:08] But June.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:20:09] So they don’t have to become foster kids.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:11] But June, the outfit she wears to the gala, breaks the Internet every year. Her outfit breaks the Internet.

 

Paul Scheer [00:20:22] In this world. She is as popular as Kim Kardashian. Right. But only in the.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:20:30] 20 million followers. That’s a lot.

 

Paul Scheer [00:20:32] But now, here’s the thing that I will say. This movie is as confusing as the advent calendar used to delineate where we are at in the movie.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:45] Agree.

 

Paul Scheer [00:20:46] I have seen the advent calendar be used as a scene transition device. National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation. It makes sense. We’re getting closer to it. This seems like we’re months out. Day 17. Over here. Up over here. It’s like they only had one Advent calendar and like, Yeah, how does it work? We don’t know if it’s going up. It’s going down. It’s going sideways. I don’t know where we are in the world.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:13] Well, because she’s somebody who celebrates Christmas every day, which is psychotic. It’s psychotic. And I have friends who have all their Christmas stuff up already. We just talked about it yesterday.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:25] Oh, we named names.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:26] We named names yesterday.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:27] Some boldfaced names were discussed.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:30] Paul and I are Christmas traditionalist. We don’t put our tree up till the day after Thanksgiving, but we support. I used to think I supported, like whatever people wanted to do, you know?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:43] And I told you, I keep my tree up until late January or Valentines day.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:48] And I was concerned about.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:50] When I need to burn stuff.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:52] But I was like, You know what? Jason needs it up that long. Like, that’s fine, That’s great. Kullop needs it up this early. That’s fine, that’s great. And I do. I feel I’ve had a pretty open heart.

 

Paul Scheer [00:22:05] I said you have to.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:07] You talked to her?

 

Paul Scheer [00:22:09] Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:09] Like you scolded her?

 

Paul Scheer [00:22:11] No, I just said that she’s cheating herself. Out of the great transition between Halloween into Thanksgiving, you take down the scary, but you leave up the pumpkins and then you get to that fall. And then.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:25] Pumpkins are your bridge?

 

Paul Scheer [00:22:26] Yes. You take the witch off the hay bale and you got the hay bale and the pumpkins are having a nice time. You get that turkey out and then because then it’s something to look forward to. Thanksgiving is something to look forward to. And then you got the next thing to look forward to. You don’t eat your dessert first, people.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:22:48] I know and you guys feel differently and that’s okay. But I’ve I’ve tried to keep an open mind, but what Ginger Holiday does is absolutely unacceptable. And she is.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:02] She’s the kind of person as an influencer, you would believe would be put into jail eventually.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:23:07] Well, she should be because of the charity she is running.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:10] Yes. It’s a scam. She’s got like that, that Logan Paul drink. She’s pushing.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:23:18] Prime.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:23:20] Our kids are obsessed with prime.

 

Paul Scheer [00:23:23] Obsessed and they have no entry point to Logan Paul They don’t watch Logan.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:23:27] They’ve just heard about it.

 

Paul Scheer [00:23:29] Ether.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:30] That’s so funny.

 

Paul Scheer [00:23:32] Here’s what I’ll say. And this is a big another big question here. Um. What is wrong with her face? Oh, she just has a burn like a rash over her hairline.

 

Paul Scheer [00:23:48] Easily covered.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:50] It’s so easily covered with nothing but a wire phantom of the Opera Mask. That’s all you need is a filigreed wired phantom of the Opera mask to wear to your wedding. And you’re totally normal.

 

Paul Scheer [00:24:05] She’s promoting a holiday where Santa hats are the norm. Pop that on and you’re good. When she wears that little Red Riding hood. I don’t. I’m. I’m looking so hard to see it. Well, even at the end, when she’s like, Look at me. I’m like, I’m trying. I’m trying to see it. I don’t see it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:30] Guys, do you think we’re ever going to get to the bad boy of Baltimore?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:24:34] We will, Jason. I just want to say we absolutely will. I just want to say one thing about her rash, because.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:44] Yes, because it is the inciting incident of the entire movie.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:24:47] Yeah. And it’s what we’re dealing with the whole time, which is like, is this a major deal because of this.

 

Paul Scheer [00:24:55] Well, I mean, I think she was already on the verge of losing this deal, because when the agent comes over in the beginning, which by the way, I don’t know much about social media, but I guess the agent doesn’t come over and start taping on his iPhone. He’s like, let’s go right now. We got it. What? You’re taping it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:16] We’re watching a movie that exists in a world in which the cosmetics company Glitzen, not the Donner, not Rudolph, Glitzen. It is the biggest corporation in the entire world. They own these influencers outright. They own them completely and are completely monkeying with their lives as if they are the Illuminati or something.

 

Paul Scheer [00:25:43] But it also seems like Glitzen is a primarily Christmas themed makeup company because Glitzen and Blitzen. I would imagine. I don’t think you would name your.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:25:54] I don’t think there are just Christmas cosmetics companies.

 

Paul Scheer [00:25:57] Well, that’s it. But I think that they. But then why would you wouldn’t name your you wouldn’t go like oh yes we’re going to, now we call ourselves Santa. It’s like Ulta. I get. Santa, I don’t.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:26:08] I don’t know. I didn’t take issue with that. I am really. No, I didn’t. I was genuinely concerned. Now, I don’t know if anybody else in the audience recognized one of the dance moms.

 

Paul Scheer [00:26:18] Yes.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:26:19] You did?

 

Paul Scheer [00:26:21] Yeah, of course.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:26:22] Holly, Nia’s mom, was playing the doctor. After seeing her on dance Moms. Like, that’s her. That’s Holly.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:26:30] Well, she’s not an actress, and I’m going to say this. All with love. She’s so not an actress that I thought it was going to be revealed that she had some ulterior motive to keep them separate like that she was an enemy of the state.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:48] Oh, that scene was crazy, she was like, do not go near her. She’s a fucking ticking time bomb.

 

Paul Scheer [00:27:00] She’s a doctor that comes to the house, that delivers the information. The way she delivered information, I leaned in. I guess that’s a good thing. But I was also like, is why is.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:27:11] Most really good actors talk kind of quietly.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:12] Honestly. It’s all whispering. Oh, it’s always green and you can’t hear them doing. Your, God forbid position, because why? But we have to stay behind this in a movie. You can’t see what they’re saying. And then they turn around and look at you like it’s your turn to talk. Go. And you’re like, Did you even say your line?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:27:39] It’s an interesting choice.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:40] I will say her advice to Beau to stay away from Ginger. Best advice in the movie. Okay. He should take that advice. Take his son and leave.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:27:52] Okay. But first of all, just to go back. There’s not a lot of time. I’m so stressed out.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:58] I could do. I could do whisper voice the whole rest of this show.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:28:01] Not enough time. You said she had an allergic reaction to a hair dye. It wasn’t hair dye. It was some sort of, like, crazy Christmas concoction she made. Holly. She, like, melted down Holly and peppermint.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:15] But it is to dye her hair.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:28:17] To dye her hair, but it had a terrible reaction on her face.

 

Paul Scheer [00:28:22] I once had that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:26] What do you mean?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:28:27] From the wig you wore? Yeah. Yeah, I remember that.

 

Paul Scheer [00:28:29] I once wore a wig. I played this character our Arsherio Paul, where I played Arsenio Hall. But it was me and I had a wig, and the wig created like, a perfectly formed line of zits across my head that was so aggressive that I didn’t want to leave the house, but yet I did.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:28:52] It was to get to you to my dermatologist and he figured it out.

 

Paul Scheer [00:28:55] Yeah, he had to get in there and (popping noises).

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:00] You know what? Leave that part in.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:29:04] But that was gone. Paul was.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:29:07] Thank you, Dr. Stoll.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:08] Our general listenership numbers, like 2.5 people who just got turned on because that’s their fetish. And they’re all on the balcony here tonight.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:29:25] That parade of zits went away within, I want to say, like a week and a half. Her reaction. Her reaction is there for months.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:43] Six weeks. They the doctor tells her six weeks.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:29:46] That’s a long time.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:48] It’s absurd. She’s a multi-millionaire influencer who is having a random person just come to her home and be like six weeks and then later is like, you know what? If you give her any stress whatsoever, she might die.

 

Paul Scheer [00:30:04] From a reaction to fruit. Here, let’s watch the first dermatologist scene. Scene four.

 

Movie Audio [00:30:13] Now, it’s just like I thought, the rashes and swelling on your face are an allergic reaction to the acidity of the holly berries that you use in your hair dye.

 

Movie Audio [00:30:21] I’m allergic to Holly?

 

Movie Audio [00:30:22] It is very rare. And actually, I’ve never seen it in person.

 

Movie Audio [00:30:26] Derek, can I have more cream? My face is itching. Okay.

 

Movie Audio [00:30:30] Hydrocortisone. Why are you putting hydrocortisone on your face? And that ointment has aggravated her condition. It’s gonna take that much longer for you to heal.

 

Movie Audio [00:30:42] This beautiful face here doesn’t have 6 to 8 weeks.

 

Movie Audio [00:30:47] This beautiful face needs time to heal.

 

Movie Audio [00:30:49] Okay, that’s great. But we have a client waiting on her newest Christmas video, which is now four videos behind.

 

Movie Audio [00:30:55] So what about laser peal?

 

Movie Audio [00:30:59] Oh, that would make the rash worse.

 

Movie Audio [00:31:01] What about a warm compress?

 

Movie Audio [00:31:02] Oh, heat will aggravate the condition and make it permanent. I would avoid chemical stringency.

 

Movie Audio [00:31:11] Wait. Did you just say permanent?

 

Movie Audio [00:31:13] I did.

 

Movie Audio [00:31:15] So I could look like this forever?

 

Movie Audio [00:31:20] You could. Good luck with that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:25] That’s a doctor. That’s a doctor’s visit. A doctor. And they had, like, a locked shot, basically. And they’re like, everybody’s got to fit in frame. So just find a way to get yourself lower, lower, lower.

 

Paul Scheer [00:31:40] People are leaning on that couch like they’re a michelle. Michelle Pfeiffer in the fabulous Baker Boys. Good reference, Scheer.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:50] Wait, did you just say good reference, Scheer, like it came from the audience? Because you pointed out there like, that’s where this came from. Nailed it, Zouks.

 

Paul Scheer [00:32:00] I also will say this doctor, to touch near the scar without any gloves on worries me. She should have had a glove on.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:09] There is so much indiscriminate face touching in that scene that I was like, never do not because I also felt like she was not prepared to be manhandled that much. There was everybody was like, boop, boop, boop. I was like, No, I don’t want any part of that much face touching.

 

Paul Scheer [00:32:27] So now are we to believe that a woman who has been making daily videos for Christmas since 13 has never touched Holly before?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:36] Also I’m going to ask a question that I know I’m not supposed to ask. How old is she? Do we think how old is she now?

 

Paul Scheer [00:32:44] That’s a good question.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:45] Started at 13. Is this 20 years age?

 

Paul Scheer [00:32:47] I mean, I’ll find out her real age.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:32:50] Well, that doesn’t matter.

 

Paul Scheer [00:32:51] Okay. I will say this the bad boy skater is at least 33/34. That’s what they establishment. He goes I’m 29 is like, you’ve been 29 for five years. So let’s just say.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:06] He’s in his mid third mid-thirties. My guess is she’s late twenties, early thirties.

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:10] I would agree.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:11] Okay. So she’s been doing this for 20 years.

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:14] Before the Internet.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:21] She’s been publicly Christmas famous and Christmas.

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:26] She was like, when you log on to AOL.com, come into my chat circuit and I will send you a JPEG that will take 4 to 7 minutes to download. Ba ba ba ba ba ba.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:39] At that point, regarding the internet, she’s basically 13 two on like message boards and Christmas, right? And Creeps, they’re like, right.

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:50] The first the first Mission Impossible movie came out in 2000 and Ethan Hunt is barely able to navigate on a computer.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:59] No wonder she’s so sexually shut down. She was exposed to the Internet at 13 and it destroyed her.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:34:06] Really true because at one point she’s she says I linked my follower count to my phone so I can check on it. It’s like.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:14] The alarm you mean that goes off?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:34:15] It’s also on your phone. You didn’t link it. It’s there.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:22] That speaker is powerful. That is like the tugboat foghorn that goes off for her follow her alarm. What an indictment of influencer culture.

 

Paul Scheer [00:34:34] What an indictment of Doctor culture This is a movie where a Christmas tree falls on a man and then a giant section in the movie is cut out where we reveal that he’s now naked in a bed, his arms in a sling. He had been in the hospital. We missed all of that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:52] Wait, can I can I back up for another second? I want to be very clear because everything you just said is true, Paul, but you’ve skipped over the fact that this guy had amnesia. This character in the in the in the structure of the movie, this character gets the amnesia at exactly the time where the rest of the movie should have been. And my guess is you’re going to tell me it was no, oh, it’s not. Okay. A movie in which his hatred for Christmas and everything else goes away. He becomes a Christmas lover with her only to then be revealed that he was a Grinch later or whatever. But instead, in the very same scene, he’s like, I don’t remember it. I don’t remember Christmas. I don’t remember you. But you know what? I hate Christmas. I hate you. Oh, wait, I’m me again. I’m the bad boy of Baltimore. That’s happens in one scene. He has amnesia for one scene.

 

Paul Scheer [00:35:52] One monologue. I would argue a monologue.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:35:54] God even.

 

Paul Scheer [00:35:56] Like now that’s a monologue that you should do for some sort of acting class or something. That’s the range. Who am I? What am I? Oh, I remember. Okay, I’m back. Fuck you. Yeah,

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:07] Yeah. I mean, what a fucking roller coaster.

 

Paul Scheer [00:36:09] Why write that?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:12] For the rest of my life, I’d be like, I had amnesia. I, I had amnesia. And the most interesting thing happened to me two days ago. I had amnesia.

 

Paul Scheer [00:36:24] And he has a shirt off.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:26] Always. Always. After the food fight, he’s got his shirt off. This guy. I don’t understand. He’s like, he’s 53 and has his shirt off. And I don’t. I don’t understand any of it. An

 

June Diane Raphael [00:36:41] The one thing I liked about this movie is it posits a world in which a model in her late sixties, early seventies, is working all the time.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:52] Yes, refers to herself in the third person.

 

Paul Scheer [00:36:57] I love Bijou.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:36:58] Booked and blessed. She is. She stays employed out there. She is here, there and everywhere. I’m like, Wow.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:06] In my mind, in my head canon Bijou fucks his dad.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:37:11] I love that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:14] Like they walk in them, just like knuckle deep.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:37:18] I would love it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:20] Ion baby.

 

Paul Scheer [00:37:26]  I don’t want to slight any actors in this movie besides one. I don’t want to slight any actors in this movie. But I will say this. The reveal of his dad felt like it should have been some one we go like Kenny Rogers? You know, or like Luke Perry? Like some. Oh, yeah. Oh, sorry. Cut that out, I wasn’t.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:49] Whoa, whoa, whoa. We can’t say Luke Perry just because he’s passed away? The audience. Very upset at that.

 

Paul Scheer [00:37:58] I’ll be like Kenny Rogers or like Joey Fatone?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:05] So, Luke Perry? I’ll take the hit, Minneapolis. I’ll take the hit. But he’s one of our greats. And I’m not afraid of your disapproval.

 

Paul Scheer [00:38:21] But I mean, and I feel like they tried, but it was like I wanted that guy.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:38:26] I wanted Don Johnson. I wanted Don Johnson. Yeah. And I thought it was him for a split second.

 

Paul Scheer [00:38:32] I was really I was looking like, who is it? Who?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:34] It was Non Johnson.

 

Paul Scheer [00:38:37] They were like, Hey, we can’t get Don. But last night I saw my friend has a guy called Non Johnson. We hire for Miami vice parties, but you got to take the tubs as well. You got to take Crockett and Tubbs is like, I don’t know, the.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:58] I don’t trust the character. I don’t trust a human being and or a character whose only vice is hot cocoa.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:39:10] Was that a vice?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:11] You know, she keeps saying, like, I’m going to need a lot more cocoa. Like, like, Oh, this is just too much. Oh, thank God for my cocoa. And then when she gets slipped booze, she’s like, That’s not cocoa. I was like, this. Yeah. She’s basically Buddy the elf. She is either a lunatic, a true innocent, or there’s a body switch that happens where a 12 year old girl is put in the body of the 30 something year old woman because all of her choices are stone cold bananas. Don’t they make sense for like a 12 year old, never been kissed. Obsessed with Christmas. Obsessed with hot cocoa.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:39:56] So so let’s just get into let’s let’s give some space as one of our audience members said last night, let’s give some space to her childhood trauma.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:06] Well, that’s what I was going to say. That really. Yeah.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:40:09] Because I think that’s where it all stems from.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:11] And she’s very stunted at that point.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:40:13] Yeah. The movie seems to suggest that her mother spent one day with her a year and that was Christmas Day.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:21] And that it was publicly known. The news host says you’re with your mother today, but we normally only see you on Christmas.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:28] So even on that one day the press is there. Yeah.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:40:33] And it’s so crazy because I did sympathize with Ginger Holiday because her from her mom’s point of view, her mom’s like, Yeah, we dealt with it in therapy. Like, how many times are we going to go over this? It’s like, Well, lady, you, you didn’t you if you only spent one day with her a year, you were never with her. Yeah. Far as I’m concerned that you weren’t a parent. So I’m sorry if she’s wrestling with this.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:56] But is that Bijou money to buy that house or is that ginger holiday?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:01] No, that’s 20 million subscribing.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:41:03] That’s ginger holiday. I think that’s glitzen cash.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:05] Those are glitzen bucks.

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:07] Wow.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:08] Those are those glitzen bucks. We got to spend these soon.

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:12] But here’s what I’ll say. The mom feels more grounded than Ginger because the moms like you that she’s the moms like I would like to do like the mom seems a little bit more.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:41:25] Paul, if you’re a parent who only spent one day with you a year and then decided to come back into your life and they were like, Well, you’re not opening up to me. It’s like, Well, yeah, you’re not my parent.

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:38] Well, were you providing?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:43] What?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:41:48] He says were you provided for. Yes, she was. She went to the best schools.

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:53] The best camera equipment.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:41:55] Best schools to become an influencer, Best nannies.

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:58] Best Kensingtons.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:42:00] Yeah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:42:00] But this is what I mean to your point, June. What’s so weird about this movie is on some level, it’s like what you said, Jason. It’s like a 12 year old. I like Coco. I don’t like boys. And then on the other level, it’s like I have dark trauma. And then. And then the other guy meets and goes, Yeah, my kid went deaf because I couldn’t pay for a surgery. You’re like,

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:23] Oh, well, he’s I mean, this is why this guy is on the verge of losing everything. For his character everything is paramount because it’s all he’s it’s all slipping away from him.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:42:37] Well, but here’s the thing about that surgery. And obviously there’s major problems with our health care system, don’t get me wrong, but I am like Bad boy of Baltimore. What research did you do? Because I do believe that there were services that could have gotten your child. Did you do any research into this?

 

Paul Scheer [00:42:57] Yeah, I did have an issue with it because it was like he had the choice to let her hear. He just didn’t make the payment. And it was like. It was like I was like a car getting repossessed. And I felt like, I don’t know.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:43:10] I think would have stepped. I just I just felt like there are and I’m not saying they’re great, but there are some some safety nets there for Noah, and I just didn’t quite buy that he would go deaf.

 

Paul Scheer [00:43:24] Couldn’t you charge it? And pay it off like a school loan? He didn’t go to high school, though. He doesn’t have a college loan, so he’s got room for a loan.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:37] How about how about where’s Noah’s mom?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:43:44] Where’s Ginger’s dad?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:45] Wait. What? What’s going on?

 

Paul Scheer [00:43:47] The dance mom took that budget.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:51] I wanted to know. I wanted to know because I couldn’t make heads or tails of that. What also was the. Hold on. What was the number? When she keeps saying her meditation, which is not a meditation. She’s saying one to get married, two blah, blah, blah, and three to bring joy to the world. Like that shit that she keeps like playing over in her mind. Feels to me like something a serial killer says. Yeah, before they collect another trophy.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:44:21] No, I mean, I did feel, though, and that’s what’s so creepy about this movie. And when Kensington is asked to be in the family picture at the end, I was very uncomfortable with that. And I was also just like, I think bad things have happened to Kensington in this home and.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:40] Get out of there.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:44:42] Women have been harmed here. And yeah, it’s not it’s not right.

 

Paul Scheer [00:44:49] I mean, I also want to just like you’re talking about bad things going on. I know it’s a throwaway joke and there are some jokes in this movie. This movie makes a straight up Helen Keller joke, like with no with like no spin. It was like, No, no, that’s a Helen Keller joke. Yeah, Yeah, I know you have a good relationship with your Ipad like Helen Keller has with her iPad, right? Well, I was like, Oh, what? I haven’t heard a Helen Keller joke told sincerely by an adult.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:22] The way this movie takes on disabilities, any like, visible differences is just absolutely horrifying. The way she’s treated by the world and and treats herself for her facial, whatever that is. I was so horrifying to me. And then the way the collectively as a community they shame Derek’s port stain I’m like what’s happening.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:47] Crazy.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:48] And when we’re presented with Noah, who’s a deaf child and signing, I was like, Oh, okay. And then.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:56] She is kind of like, Oh, okay. Oh, that’s interesting.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:46:00] She just talks to him.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:02] Yeah, she just talked to him and that’s it. And then, and he’s kind of like, Oh my God, that’s great. He’s like, Actually, this is my son. And she’s like, Oh, okay. And then the what’s the little girl’s name? Francesca? Francesca comes over. Little blond girl, healthy blond girl. And she’s like, Oh my God. Ginger flips out over the little blond girl. Like, like being as into her. Like, it seemed to cast the light on everything that was very dark.

 

Paul Scheer [00:46:28] Well, and then this other moment that I was going to say that struck me as dark, and maybe I’m reading into it. But when the agent tries to trap our our character from the Open marriage movie and our bad boy skater and and they put him in the bathroom, the the the bad girl, she says, why are there no mirrors in here? And then they looked there was like, it is a bathroom and there are no mirrors. What’s going on? And that was the creepiest moment because.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:01] Because you know, that’s a real room in a real house that they were shooting in. And that’s an improvised line.

 

Paul Scheer [00:47:06] Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:07] That was to say, oh, help, help something. Something’s wrong.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:47:12] Okay. So I thought that I thought in that moment that that Ginger had taken down all the mirrors in the house like Phantom of the Opera style. Right? She didn’t want to see herself.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:25] I love it. I love that. Yes, I get that.

 

Paul Scheer [00:47:28] I get that. But I don’t know. I feel like there’s something weird because she’s also in mirrors and other parts in the house. She’s another she’s in mirrors, on camera she’s fucking making, but she’s making videos and a lot of them. And all she’s doing is covering this part. She may she doesn’t. That’s the other thing. She never stops. She stops for two weeks. It’s not Beauty and the Beast.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:53] I agree. I agree. It’s not Beauty and the Beast. It’s Beast And the bad boy of Baltimore. My favorite my favorite scene is when they’re doing the video where they’re decorating the tree. And I love these movies because they try and establish the absolute maximum of masculinity is she’s decorating the tree and he’s just chillin with a basketball. He’s not shooting because there’s not a hoop. He’s just putting it up and it falls down.

 

Paul Scheer [00:48:28] Because he’s a skateboarder.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:31] Yeah, because he’s like, he’s the bad boy and he hates Christmas.

 

Paul Scheer [00:48:34] Why doesn’t he just skateboard in the fucking house? That would be cool. Hey, I love skateboarding on marble.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:39] I don’t know. I got nothing to do. What do I do? I wanted to play with this. Okay. God forbid if anybody ever tosses me a ball in a movie.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:48:55] I was also like, my brother, you are a dad. You don’t get to hate Christmas like you have a child. A young child.

 

Paul Scheer [00:49:08] Is he a deadbeat dad?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:49:10] Well, I don’t know. I think he might be.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:14] I feel like it sounds like he was. And now he has done the right thing and is reengaging in his son’s life.

 

Paul Scheer [00:49:20] So we don’t know his ex. We don’t know his mother.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:24] Well, my question was my question was, is he married? Is he married? And this set up is again, this set up. We haven’t talked about the plot of the movie at all. I’m only now realizing we’ve not to We’ve been here for 4 hours. 4 hours. And we have not talked about the plot of the movie at all. So the plot of the movie is both of their influencer numbers are going down. And so their agent, who they share, creates a fake PR stunt relationship that they’re going to be in to boost their numbers. They hate each other. They agree to do this. And in the doing of it, they both succeed, fail and fall in love. But it is meant to be a fake relationship such that I was like, Oh, the reveal that he had a child. I was like, Oh great, show me that he has a family. So this is all just a complete fabrication for him that he because I love the reality. He needs the money. He is struggling because he is 62 years old and is still trying to shred at the state skatepark. I don’t think so, my guy.

 

Paul Scheer [00:50:39] His cameraman was the most upsetting part. His cameraman was clearly like a cameraman past his prime, like he looked like he was just trying to be like, hey, I still got it. No, like he it was really upsetting. I will say this, though. The kid. Noah, Noah, the kid. The kid. It’s weird to me and I feel like it wasn’t really dealt with that he offered up Noah to be like. Like a big brother Big.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:51:14] He offered Francesca.

 

Paul Scheer [00:51:16] Oh, Francesca. So wait, so that’s on his kid. I thought, Francesca, is his kid.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:51:22] Watch this movie, Paul.

 

Paul Scheer [00:51:23] Sorry.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:24] You didn’t notice. He was. He was signing with Noah. But you just thought he knew sign language. When he said this is my son, you thought he meant This is my daughter, Francesca.

 

Paul Scheer [00:51:37] You know what? I think I was watching side eyed a little bit, and I thought that I saw that whole scene.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:43] Paull, you have every right to not know the intimacies of this movie because this was trash.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:51:47] Better that way. I can’t believe that I know all of these relationships.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:53] Wheden you said Noah and Francesca in the beginning, I genuinely was like, Oh, no, June watch the wrong movie. I was like pretty sure it’s Bo and Ginger, I was like, uh oh, uh oh, uh oh. Noah and Francesca? What has happened? Oh, my God.

 

Paul Scheer [00:52:15] Well, maybe the audience watched it better than I did. Let’s go out here.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:52:19] Oh God.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:20] Huge mistake.

 

Paul Scheer [00:52:22] All right, your name, your question.

 

Audience Member [00:52:23] Andrew. And did you notice that when they brought out the packet that had a terrible drawing, a child’s drawing of a woman in a wedding dress, and she’s like my dream wedding dress.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:52:36] Yes. I laughed so hard at those drawings. It was truly like it was like a stick figure woman with a triangle on top of.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:46] It was like someone’s kids did it and they’re like, Put it in the movie.

 

Paul Scheer [00:52:50] I will also say that when she stumbles across the idea to dress as Rudolph, I was like, You’ve been doing this that long and you never got to Rudolph? Like Rudolph.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:53:01] Also Paul. I found it so wild that the movie switched gears, and now we’re heading toward like a third act that is ending in a wedding and not the gala. We never got to see her costume.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:12] We never do. We never got to see the gala. We never see the costume. We don’t even see the costume getting made. That was infuriating. Okay. This movie shockingly, let me down.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:53:26] Me too. It’s so crazy to say that I was, like, unsatisfied. Like it left me wanting.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:34] Oh, it’s so rare for the podcast to be watching something and be so close and be like, You’re breaking my heart movie. Oh, I’m not on your side.

 

Paul Scheer [00:53:46] Hi, umm.

 

Audience Member [00:53:48] Matt.

 

Paul Scheer [00:53:48] Matt, what’s your question?

 

Audience Member [00:53:49] So do you think she was actually building foster homes or some sort of Christmas cult compound with this money and raising these kids as her followers?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:59] Wouldn’t that be great if it was some sort of follower farm or something like that?

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:03] I will say that I was disturbed in the beginning of the movie when it said it took place in Clearwater, Florida.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:09] What?

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:10] Yeah.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:12] Oh, I didn’t catch that.

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:13] No, I was just joking.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:14] Oh. Oh. Because I was going to say, the movie makes so much sense now, then. In fact, everybody’s acting normal.

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:23] I’m in the balcony.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:54:27] Oh, God. Be careful.

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:31] All right. What’s your name and your question?

 

Audience Member [00:54:33] I’m Matt. So most of kensington’s time in the film seems like she’s pointing out how crazy everyone else is. Do you think she’s supposed to be sort of a stand in for the rational audience and all these watching these crazy people?

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:46] That’s an interesting point of view.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:54:48] I just want to know, is Kensington employed there? Is she on the payroll because she’s in a number of videos, it seems. She definitely lives there. And she only wears one shirt.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:07] Which tells us. Do you know what that tells us? She worked one day. Kensington worked one day. That was her outfit. She worked one day.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:55:19] But listen, they changed her lipstick a few times.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:23] Here’s the thing.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:55:24] Shirt stayed the same.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:25] And this is why I love you, Minneapolis, because you guys and we are all on the same page. We’re all only obsessed with Kensington in this movie. Oh. 80% of my notes are like, What does Kensington think of this? Why is Kensington allowing this to happen?

 

Paul Scheer [00:55:46] Okay. Your name, your question.

 

Audience Member [00:55:48] I’m Audrey, and I am wondering why, when Bo recognized Bijou from hanging on his father’s wall, his father did not recognize Bijou.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:02] Such a great I think his dad I think his dad was playing it cool. But they definitely fucked. Bijou and the dad for sure fuck. And I bet that’s the sequel. I would watch and honestly, I would watch it if it was on Pornhub. But does  pornhub do Pornhub originals?

 

Paul Scheer [00:56:23] They they air all their originals on ion. Okay, I’ll get to both of you. Here we go. You go first. You got your name?

 

Audience Member [00:56:30] I’m Samantha. We haven’t talked about Howard taking out the photo of himself as a young skateboarder yet.

 

Paul Scheer [00:56:36] Oh, yeah. His dad.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:38] Loved it. Great moment.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:56:40] Well, it’s just that he takes it out. It’s presented as a gift.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:45] As if it’s a picture of Bo as a boy that the father has had. I’ve kept. What? Okay, Why is everybody screaming at me? It’s a picture of the dad as a kid skating. I know. That’s what he said. I know. Are you yelling at me about that?

 

Paul Scheer [00:57:08] He said it’s not as if it’s the.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:10] Yeah. No, what I’m saying is it would be more meaningful to Bo if his dad had a picture of Beau as a child in skateboarding. If I’m Beau, I would be like, you had a picture of me skateboarding this whole time? I don’t remember skating this young. Is what Beau says, feeling for the first time connected to his dad. His dad, that’s not you. That’s me. This story. Your story is about me. Me on a skateboard. Me, me, me, me. Don’t yell at me yet. You know what? I was on board with you guys earlier then you turned against me just like Beau’s dad.

 

[00:57:53] All right. I got another question up here. Your name and your question.

 

Audience Member [00:57:55] Ben Cannon.

 

Paul Scheer [00:57:57] Thank you for your full name.

 

Audience Member [00:57:58] You’re welcome.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:00] Ben Cannon Great voice. Ben Cannon Great.

 

Audience Member [00:58:04] Thursdays, 9 p.m. CBS last week. I’m Ben Cannon. Thank you.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:10] Previously Ben Cannon. Ben Cannon. You got to write mystery books.

 

Audience Member [00:58:17] Thank you. I can try.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:19] A Ben Cannon mystery.

 

Audience Member [00:58:22] So I looked up this movie to try to watch it. And on Just Watch and IMDB, it immediately suggested a Snow White Christmas, which I assumed was connected. But then as soon as I saw the asylum in the opening credits I put together, that this movie seems to be the, you know, Snakes on a Train or a Transmorphers refers to a Snow White Christmas, which came out the previous year.

 

Paul Scheer [00:58:51] Oh, interesting. Okay. Because I this asylum as well. It’s written by the people who wrote Sharknado and things like that. But it seemed like from their social media posts that they were transitioning away from schlock and going into like earnest schlock. Like that was like, we understand it’s schlock now. We’re doing like, earnest, earnest schlock. So t

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:15] That’s my favorite of the earnest movies.

 

Paul Scheer [00:59:18] Now. Now, it is interesting that you said that you found Snow White Christmas, because when I typed in Beauty and the Beast Christmas, I only found the Disney Beauty and the Beast. Christmas. It seems like it would be harder to find Snow White to Beauty and the Beast. It’s like, that’s like A.I. going, I think you meant this thing. But I. But yeah. So asylum is behind them.

 

Audience Member [00:59:39] Yeah. And that movie also bad. I watched Beauty and the Beast Christmas four times to try to find some meaning in it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:49] Okay. Ben. Ben Cannon, can I talk to you for a second? Just you. Everybody else. Shut up. Ben, don’t do that. Your time. Your time is valuable time. Your time is valuable. Spend it doing anything else.

 

Paul Scheer [01:00:08] Did you find any meaning after four times?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:12] Are we just interviewing Ben Cannon?

 

Paul Scheer [01:00:14] Well, I feel like he’s leading to something, but I didn’t let him get it out yet. Hold on.

 

Audience Member [01:00:24] So then I watched a Snow White Christmas.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:28] Respect yourself.

 

Audience Member [01:00:32] The only real connections to be found were that early on in both movies, a character breaks a beloved childhood Christmas ornament as a way of establishing character. And also both the directors went on to make Tubi original films. The director of Snow White Christmas.

 

Paul Scheer [01:00:54] This is a lot of info, but I don’t think any of it is relevant.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:57] This is too much. It’s taking up too much space in your hard drive.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:01:01] Paul, what’s happening between you and Ben? Do you not feel you can walk away?

 

Paul Scheer [01:01:06] I

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:01:07] feel like he gave it four times. I get to go. I got to go. I will say Paul is like, was like kind of like, will I feel like many sucking the energy or life force out of Paul. Are you an energy vampire, Ben Cannon?

 

June Diane Raphael [01:01:22] I think I do think I have seen this, by the way, with Paul, where there’s men who have a certain deepness in their voice, and Paul gets like, immediately fascinated by them. And I just watched that happen.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:01:38] Are you kidding? We’re all susceptible to a stentorian alpha like Ben Cannon. We can’t not. That’s the t shirt. Stentorian Alpha Ben Cannon. Or at least somebody will do it as a bootleg.

 

Paul Scheer [01:02:01] Okay. Your. Your name and your question.

 

Audience Member [01:02:04] Hey, I’m Danny. Two things. First, just shout out to William because he did amazing. And then to to get to the beauty and the beast of it all. Is Beau a masculine version of Belle to be a beauty from Beauty and the beast.

 

Paul Scheer [01:02:22] Now, that’s what I was looking for from Ben Cannon.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:02:29] Ben Cannon saying is siren song and you just couldn’t.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:02:33] Oh, yes. If Ben Cannon started talking right now, Paul would levitate it like like a Looney Tunes cartoons, smelling a Christmas ham and go all the way across to Ben Cannon’s voice. Ben Cannon, we’re going to need you to do ad reads for How Did This Get Made? I want to hear you better. I want to hear you say bonobos.

 

Paul Scheer [01:03:00] Okay. Your name, your question.

 

Audience Member [01:03:02] Tyler. I don’t have Ben Cannon’s register, but.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:03:05] We know Tyler.

 

Audience Member [01:03:06] Hey. Ginger is definitely the beast. She’s been, quote, horribly disfigured. She seems to be stuck in her castle. In her castle, her friend slash servant, slash whatever is stuck in her. One form of that one shirt.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:03:28] Wait, so you’re saying. Are you saying that Kensington is Mrs. Potts?

 

Audience Member [01:03:34] Sure. Yeah. Oh, yes.

 

Paul Scheer [01:03:39] I like it. I like this. All right. So you did away in there. I was coming to come to you, then I pulled away. I’m going to come back to you. Let’s see if we can. Right. What he got?

 

Audience Member [01:03:48] My name’s Travis. Can we discuss Ben’s relative strength scene to scene for a moment?

 

Paul Scheer [01:03:54] I like this question.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:03:57] Wait a second. Ben cannon?

 

Audience Member [01:04:01]  I think we all know he’s ripped. I apologize, but.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:04:09] Ben Cannon getting a lot of a lot of traction this show. Anybody know who Ben Cannon is? They keep saying him on Who’s Ben Cannon?

 

Audience Member [01:04:18] And so when Beau and the Halloween influencer are trapped in the bathroom, they have to trade so that he is leaping off of her back to reach the ceiling. But then in the next scene that we see him, he Captain America style jumps from a balcony. Yes. And lands in superhero style mode. Action pose, ready to attack his agent. Yeah. And it doesn’t seem to line up.

 

Paul Scheer [01:04:52] Oh, no. Yet a Christmas tree falling at a slow pace gets him no greater than seven feet tall. Knocks him out and put them in a sling.

 

Audience Member [01:05:04] Literally. Amnesia. Yeah.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:05:06] Well, keep in mind. Okay. And I think this is tough because, yes, he’s knocked unconscious by the tree. He gets amnesia. He jumps off a balcony in superhero lands. The guy is especially strong for someone who’s, like 73 years old. Yeah. And still skateboarding.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:05:22] My favorite thing about the beginning skateboard sequence, too, with. With the bad boy from the bad boy of Baltimore, Bo, is that we never see him skateboard. We never see him on that thing doing anything.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:05:38] As if the actor himself can’t skateboard, it’s almost as if that could be a problem.

 

Paul Scheer [01:05:47] Okay. Obviously, there’s a lot a lot to say about a lot. But you know what? There are some people out there that just want to give this movie some love, some people that have a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

 

Audience Member [01:06:06] Paul, what do the people say when you look at Amazon? Critics might try to dissuade, but they are completely wrong. Second opinions. Movies never seemed so good. So, so good up here on such a sweet Merry Christmas. I feel good opinion on its tempo, Second Opinions.

 

Paul Scheer [01:07:20] Great job.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:07:21] Happy holidays.

 

Paul Scheer [01:07:23] Amazing second opinion songs. And let me talk to you about second opinion reviews. There are 141 total reviews. 59% are five star reviews. The average rating 4.1 out of five stars. This movie came out in 2019, so this first review.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:07:41] Movie came out in 2019?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:07:43]  I’m going to need you to look at that again, because I’m pretty sure this movie came out in like 2003.

 

Paul Scheer [01:07:49] Okay. According to IMDB, they were in pre-production nine, five, 19 September 5th, 19 Oh, they’re in post-production November 6th, 2019. And the movie was released December 15th, 2019. So from pre to release.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:08:10] Well those dates. Those numbers make sense.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:08:14] Wow.

 

Paul Scheer [01:08:15] So that is a turnaround, a very quick turnaround. I think the quickest turnaround in the history of film is Star Trek first contact. So that’s true. But so that might have beaten it. Okay. Kate Hickey. Kate Hickey writes “Almost nearly perfect in each and every way. And I do hope it remains so. Five stars.” And a title just right.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:08:47] Is she afraid it’s going to be re-edited?

 

Paul Scheer [01:08:50] I don’t know.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:08:51] I hope it remains. I hope they don’t reedit like.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:08:54] They’re going to release the Snyder cut?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:09:00] Honestly release the Snyder cut of Beauty and the Beast Christmas. Make this 4 hours long and make it make sense.

 

Paul Scheer [01:09:09] I need more kensington, Marvin The Martian.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:09:13] The middle 2 hours are just him having amnesia.

 

Paul Scheer [01:09:18] Then we get to this one by Wolfie watches Wolfie watches writes “I can’t believe Walkin Riverdale and Parrish Teen Wolf are in this movie. Him doing dirty talk with Christmas puns got me feeling some sort of way. Thanking Santa for his shirtless scene. The fact they aren’t milking all these social media moments is mind boggling. Him shirtless in the bed, injured would be great for a post or her getting injured could have been milked for so much sympathy and they could have done a partnership with some sort of organization about allergies and such.”

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:07] So this person thinks this is a documentary or a reality show?

 

Paul Scheer [01:10:12] No, no these actors should have been putting up these posts.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:15] I’m sorry.

 

Paul Scheer [01:10:16] “There are a lot of laugh out loud, funny moments like him nearly dying from the tree or the food fight. Okay, but where is my bad boy skateboarder that will never wear dorky matching Christmas themed outfits. Seriously having so many shirtless scenes. Was that in his contract? I don’t care. It’s working for me.”

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:38] Okay. Wow. Questions. Is someone in this movie named Joaquin Riverdale?

 

Paul Scheer [01:10:45] Well, I believe that one of these people is from Riverdale.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:48] Is one of these people from Riverdale? Now, the other now is that white people reacted to the Luke Perry mention because he was also in Riverdale?

 

Paul Scheer [01:10:58] No, I think they were just reacting.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:11:00] Is the main actor, Beau from Riverdale?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:11:04] It’s the manager. The manager is from Riverdale. The manager.

 

Paul Scheer [01:11:07] And then who is from Teen Wolf. Oh, Bo. Bo is from Teen Wolf.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:11:12] Minneapolis. Watch better shows.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:11:18] It’s so funny that this woman was like, so horny for this movie because I was so turned off by everything I was seeing. Even the fact that his cast was like a Christmas sling. I was like, No. Then and then the way they they like built to this scene where they’re about to kiss and he’s in a Christmas onesie. I was like, This is sickening. And she kisses him. It’s her first kiss is with a grown man in a Christmas onesie.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:11:52] And the like. What has gotten them all horny? Like they’re the metrics that they’re talking about for their engagement on the channels are what’s getting them like worked up like that first thing they’re talking about like influencer metrics and that’s what’s getting them all like hard and wet.

 

Paul Scheer [01:12:14] Just so you know, the review is not over.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:12:17] What?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:12:18] What?

 

Paul Scheer [01:12:20] So I’ll pick it up from. “I don’t care. It’s working for me. William Drag Queen officiant and superhero landing off a second story balcony, then a candy cane fight. Everyone falling into a pool, another shirtless scene and so much more. This is my favorite Ion Christmas movie Hallmark Hotness. Five stars.”

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:12:48] Interesting. So. Oh, So are they suggesting that what makes Ion movies different from Hallmark or perhaps Lifetime, is the amount of like, shirtlessness and, like, objectification that’s going on?

 

Paul Scheer [01:13:00] I guess. I mean, maybe they’re a little bit more sexy, but it didn’t seem that way.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:13:04] At the wedding, someone says, Can you believe every influencer in the world is at this thing? They cut to the wedding and I’m not kidding. I counted. There are 18 people there.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:13:21] Not only that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:13:22] I wish that was every influencer in the world, and we could blow that location up.I will fail.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:13:32] The aisle that she walks down, is lined with toilet paper. There’s no other way to describe what’s on the ground. I was so deeply upset about the wedding.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:13:44] It felt like a movie that was built on. Here are cameras. Here’s a bunch of random stuff from the trash. Make a movie.

 

Paul Scheer [01:13:52] I don’t know. June, what do you think?

 

June Diane Raphael [01:13:54] Oh, gosh. This put me in a bad mood. I was irritable after it. I was angry about this one. I think it’s also because I’ve watched two bad Christmas movies in a row. It’s something to be seen. It is absolutely outrageous, but I don’t think I can recommend it. Okay.

 

Paul Scheer [01:14:14] I. I like a Christmas movie. There’s no bad Christmas movie to me, even this even this. I can sit back. Yes. Yes.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:14:24] This isn’t a Christmas movie. This movie does not end on Christmas.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:14:30] This movie is is only about craven commercialism and capitalism. The theme of the movie is making as much money as is humanly possible. When they cut to one year later and it’s them, it’s all about them again, currying favor and wealth amongst their followers. This movie isn’t about the Christmas spirit. I don’t know how it could be if at the end they’re like, not online. You don’t have to applaud for my rants. You didn’t applaud immediately, which means you don’t agree. Minneapolis, entire audience of influencers.

 

Paul Scheer [01:15:09] I do want to say two things to you. First of all, the original title of this film, Social engagement.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:15:20] Better title, to be honest. Makes more sense.

 

Paul Scheer [01:15:23] Also, before we end the show, I don’t know. We’ve. Before the show started, we showed you this animation of Drop Dead Fred. Right. And I don’t know if you know this. Well, I think you guys know it. Drop dead fred was shot here in Minneapolis.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:15:41] I will say I did not know that.

 

Paul Scheer [01:15:44] The the entire house where it was shot. You can see the house up here. That’s the house. That’s tree, right? It’s it’s where Fred got run over by the the truck. You see his feet here? Right. Remember that? There it is. And so because drop dead, Fred is our guiding star. I made a pilgrimage today. Boom!

 

June Diane Raphael [01:16:11] That’s where he was.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:16:14] Oh, my God. I went to the drop dead Fred house.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:16:20] That’s where I knew you were.

 

Paul Scheer [01:16:24] I yelled, Team Sanity. I had to visit the mega bitch. You know, I visited the mega bitches house.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:16:31] You know what? It’s a total team sanity move to go to the house. June and I, Team Fred. We spent the day with Fred in our imagination. We didn’t have to go out and walk to a house. I hope you went up to the door and was like, Hi.

 

Paul Scheer [01:16:51] They were not home.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:16:51] Team sanity. They were. Did you try?

 

Paul Scheer [01:16:55] I looked around. I was a little nervous because it’s very. It’s a very residential block. And I had an Uber drop me off in the middle of the block. And I was trying to take pictures in front of this house. And I saw the UPS guy look at me weird. I saw some guy come out of his house, look at me weird. They were not home. I was going to peek in the back to see if that little area.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:17:18] I knew you went somewhere, so. So just to set the scene, we were in the hotel room, and I was waiting for an important call from our son, who had lost a devastating soccer game. And he was really, really upset about it. And I said, we have to face time him. And the next thing I knew, Paul, it was the playoffs. He was upset. Playoffs. I said, We have to. I have to talk to him. And then next thing I knew, the facetime was coming and Paul’s gone. I said, Where were you? Where did you go? And he came back and said that he was on a walk. So now I know.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:17:58] How long was this?

 

Paul Scheer [01:17:59] 10 minutes way.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:18:00] Oh, okay. 10 minutes away.

 

Paul Scheer [01:18:01] Not. Not too far.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:18:02] And did you, like, leave anything? Did you?

 

Paul Scheer [01:18:05] Well, I kind of. I got nervous to shout out team sanity, but I did say it a couple of times quietly.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:18:13] Oh, it’s so much worse. But you were like team sanity, team, sanity, team, sanity.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:18:23] And so near actors, voice team, sanity, scream, sanity, team, sanity.

 

Paul Scheer [01:18:31] Give it up for Jason Mantzoukas, June Diane Raphael. I am Paul Scheer. Thank you so much Minneapolis. Thank you so much everybody.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:18:39] Great work, everybody. Eat shit, Minneapolis.

 

Paul Scheer [01:18:45] What a show. Thank you to the staff of the Pantages Theater, our amazing tour manager, Beth Thomas, and all of you in Minneapolis who made it such a great time. If you’ve been jonesing to attend one of our live shows and you live in Europe, or maybe just wanted an excuse to take a trip. Well, I got some good news for you. For the first time ever, How Did This Get Made is going on a European tour. We’re going to the United Kingdom and Ireland from March 28th to April 3rd. We’ll be traveling across the pond to London, Glasgow, Belfast and Dublin. Tickets are on sale now at HDTGM.com. And once we select the movies for each show, you will find those listed there as well. Now, if you want to feel like you are a part of the Beauty and the Beast Christmas show, well, you can because you can get yourself a shirt that was designed alive with the audience that night. The shirt design says Ben Cannon, an Ion original. It is truly one of my favorite new shirts we’ve made. And you can snag that shirt and more at Teepublic.com/stores/HDTGM. Just a reminder that I am in two holiday films right now on Netflix. You can check me out in the Family Switch, a great family holiday movie made my family and my extended family incredibly happy. Also A Disturbance in the Force, a documentary about the Star Wars holiday special. We talk about the Star Wars holiday special here on the show many years ago. You can watch it on YouTube. But this is a documentary that truly does answer the question, How Did This Get Made? And that is available to purchase on VOD. Or you could just get it as a Blu-Ray. A disturbance in the force. I think you will really dig it. It’s really fun. If you have any corrections or omissions for this episode and you want to, you know, give me a call, tell me about it. Well, go to our discord at discord.gg/HDTGM or like I said, leave me a voicemail at 619-PAUL-ASK. Then make sure to tune in to next week’s Last Looks episode. And I might pick it. If it’s good enough, I’ll pick it or I’ll play it. I’ll do something. Anyway, I will share a bonus deleted scene from this episode. Plus we will announce our next movie. Remember, you can find us everywhere online at HDTGM.com. Make sure to follow us on threads and if you love the show, tell your friends to listen as well, because word of mouth helps and it’s a lot more fun watching these bad movies with a buddy. And last but not least, I got to say thank you to all the listeners who support the show every week and our entire behind the scenes staff who keeps the show running. I’m talking about our producers Scott Sonne, Molly Reynolds, our movie breaking producer, Avril Halley, and our engineers Casey, Alfred and Rich Garcia, and of course, our associate producer Jess Cisneros, who makes those amazing social media videos. All right. That’s all I got. Bye for now.