EP. 339.5 — Last Looks: Beautiful Disaster

Paul Scheer [00:00:00] Tax deductions, KFC and Benoit balls. All this and more on today’s How Did This Get Made Last Looks hit the theme!

Music [00:00:11] [Intro Song]

Paul Scheer [00:00:40] What’s up pigeons? I’m your teen poker prodigy, Paul Scheer. And welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Beautiful Disaster. Plus, later in the show, Jason and I chat about all the TV, movies and music that we are currently loving. I’ll also share an exclusive deleted scene from our Beautiful Disaster show. And as always, I’ll reveal next week’s movie. But first things first, a big shoutout to War Widow for that great opening theme song. We love these songs and if you have a Last Looks theme song, send it to HowDidThisGetMade@earwolf.com. But keep them short. 15 to 20s is best. Now there’s a lot of things to talk about. First of all, thank you to everyone who has preordered my book. I so appreciate that. If you’ve preordered my book, you can go to my website and sign up to get a personalized postcard from me. It just means the world. Thank you so much. This book is written with How Did This Get Made really behind me on this one, so I really appreciate it. Also, we are going to be in Europe. We’ve just opened up more tickets for Glasgow. We were sold out, but then they found more seats. I don’t know how that’s possible, but they found more seats. There’s a handful of seats left for London and a bunch of seats left for Belfast. Go to HDTGM.com to get your tickets for that. Now let’s get into it. Last week we talked at length about Beautiful Disaster, a movie that discord user Annie DeVito thinks should have had the tagline “Beautiful Disaster: more red flags than the running of the bulls.” Ooh, I like that, Annie. All right, well, we had questions about Beautiful Disaster, and we might have even missed a few things. Here’s your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is now time for Corrections and Omissions.

Music [00:02:34] [Corrections and Omissions Song}

Paul Scheer [00:02:54] Thank you, Rob from Long Island for that great new theme song. Cranking them out. Always there. So good. Let’s go to the discord. The discord is always at discord.gg/HDTGM. I love that community. What’s up GT 75? Well, GT 75 says “The tuition scene did not make any sense. The bursar says they don’t accept cash tuition payments because of the tax implications. What tax implications? She’s not paying a nanny under the table. She’s paying for school, and the college can still report cash to the IRS, saying that their office is not set up to handle that amount of cash would have made far more sense.” You’re right. I didn’t even think about that. This movie is dumb. I love when a movie’s that dumb. Like, you know that they just need a conflict and they’re like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They don’t take it. They don’t take it. Oh, we can’t break a hundred, we can’t break, we can’t break 20,000. Cat lady 818 writes, “At the show, you talked about how the movie, was comedic. It made it more watchable. But I found an interview with Sprouse and Gardner that suggested we could have had a very different movie. They apparently did multiple takes of every scene, starting out very seriously, and then getting more and more campy every time. So neither of them knew what kind of movie they were going to end up with.” Really? Really. Oh, I, I love that I love that they shot multiple. Let’s see the serious cut. Let us see the serious cut. Snyder cut. Serious cut. Cat. Another Cat. “I took a screenshot of one of Travis’s post-fight Instagram shots, where I noticed some strange replies in the comments.” Okay, good. I’m glad someone’s bringing this up because I saw this as well. “One person writes ‘Hello Joyce’ for some reason, but the most random comment is a person who asked Travis if he wants to star in a period piece short film set during the Spanish Inquisition that’s shot on super 16 millimeter, and rehearsals start tomorrow.” Let me tell you something. Production designers, prop makers. And by the way, this screenshot is up on the discord. You can take a look at it. It’s amazing. They are the funniest. They’re the best. They don’t expect anyone to do this. Or maybe they do. And they want this. Anyway, let’s go to the phones, see what’s going on. All right. This is from anonymous.

Listener [00:05:04] Hi, Paul, I just finished listening to the Beautiful Disaster episode and I can’t believe I’m going admit this. I read the book and I still have it on my Kindle, so I looked it up. And to answer the question you, Jason and June have, is Abby a virgin in the book that is addressed. And yes, she is, so hope that helps. I’m still traumatized by that book to this day, but it was a great episode. Okay, bye.

Paul Scheer [00:05:34] Don’t be ashamed that you read this book. So many people have read this book. And yes, thank you for answering the question that we all knew in our hearts is true. Abby was a virgin. All right. Doctor Sarah from New Haven, what do you got?

Listener [00:05:47] Hi, Paul, this is Doctor Sarah. I was at the New Haven show, and something you guys missed about the Beautiful Disaster movie was the fact that when Abby went to Travis’s family’s house, there was only one bucket of KFC for all those grown men. And they got a double of corn for the sides. Where were the mashed potatoes? And where were the biscuits, Paul? Where were the biscuits? Anyways, I just want to thank you all for coming to Connecticut. As you can imagine, being a doctor and professor at this time has gotten really, really hard. And you, June and Jason, bring joy and laughter into my life every single day. So blessings to all of you. Take care.

Paul Scheer [00:06:22] Thank you, Doctor Sarah, first of all, for being a doctor and the fact that we’ve, I don’t think, ever had a doctor identify themselves as a doctor on the show. So I already feel like this is already going to be a great comment. You’re right. Where were those biscuits? Maybe they did biscuits first. I don’t know, you’re right. They should have been more, but maybe they are a health conscious. Well, that is truly, one of my favorite things to watch in all film. Just the way that food is displayed or not displayed. You know, you watch anyone but you. There’s so much food out for, like, four people, like. And they’re putting it out. It’s not like they have, you know, like staff. I am amazed every, every, every countertop has food on it. Then you watch something like two and a Half Men. My friend Gill is there. He did a thing where you watch every two and a Half Men, they eat, pizza with a fork and knife. I am I it will always catch my eye no matter what I’m watching, actually, when it’s bad. All right. And another anonymous call from Dallas.

Listener [00:07:18] Hey Paul, calling from a Dallas hotel room with food poisoning. I just wanted to point out that the casino scene in Beautiful Disaster all the way up to the $5,000 buy in, seems to be a shot for shot remake of the train poker scene in The Sting, a little crossover podcast appeal.

Paul Scheer [00:07:42] Oh, feel better. First of all, from the food poisoning, I appreciate you had enough energy to call in. And yes, Unspooled crossover, I love that. I think you’re actually are right, I hadn’t seen. A sting. It’s such a long time. And then when I saw it, I was like, wow, this movie reminds me of Beautiful Disaster. All right, let’s go back to the discord. Corgi Herder writes– this is a kind of continuation of the poker scene observation– “Beautiful Disaster commits the same poker sins that so many other movies do. A poker prodigy is shown getting increasingly rare hands and winning. When you get those, you can’t just will a great hand to appear through skill alone. You can see this. Even movies like Casino Royale, where James Bond outplayed his opponents by getting ridiculous hands rather than making marginal gains with intelligent, well-timed bets.” Well, yeah. I mean, look, what can you do? I mean, the card playing is not the most interesting thing to watch. You gotta you gotta keep it good for the dumb people like me. In response to us talking about the Fight Club matches happening near the performance of Titus Andronicus, Sean McBee writes, “I interpreted it as Titus Andronicus was being used as the fake cover for a fight club.” All right. Okay, so then Sean goes on and says “It introduces a whole different set of logic issues. But being a How Did This Get Made movie, that’s to be expected. So I guess we’ll never know for sure.” I, I think that if they, if they have like a secret thing with like the stage crew that the stage is like, hey, we need money for a great sets like, Titus Andronicus. So, why don’t we just, you know, we’ll make that money back by running a fight club. I like a stage crew movie, Ryan Says 1213 writes “As a librarian of ten years, 20 years in library work, and as an alumni of CSU Sacramento, I can attest that the library ramen slurping was something I witnessed in that library.” Wait in that library. Really? In Budapest? “If ramen slurping was the only issue in the public library I worked at, that would have been considered a good day. It was mostly empty bottles of Jack Daniels and use condoms.” Oh. “Or literal shit on the floor in my library.” Oh my gosh, I’m so sorry, Ryan Says. “It really does say something that the prison library I run is better maintained than the public library.” Ryan, you just dropped a fuck ton of bombs on me in that one. I’m. I’m flabbergasted. I’m flabbergasted. But I will say this, if you’re a librarian out there, please, preorder my book. Make sure my book comes to your library. It counts as a book sales. And I will also say, I think it’ll help people in prison. So, Ryan, go get my book in prison. And also, I’m so sorry you had to clean up condoms in a library? I guess. Man, John Grisham gets people hard. Anyway, so many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one that is the best. And this week the best is. And it’s a it’s a tricky one. It really, really is a tricky one. But I love anyone who stops and freeze frames a scene. And Cat, you did that to find out about the 16 millimeter production of the Spanish Inquisition. So you are our winner and you don’t get anything. But you do get this amazing song from Hill Baker. Hit it.

Music [00:10:42] [Winner’s Song]

Paul Scheer [00:10:53] Thank you, Hill Baker, for that song. Remember, if you want to submit an alt movie tag line or chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit us up on the discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM or call us at 619-PAUL-ASK. Coming up, Jason joins me to talk about all things that we are watching TV, film, music, whatever. We’re loving stuff. We’re going to tell you about it. Plus, we’ll play an exclusive deleted scene from our Beautiful Disaster show and I’ll reveal next week’s movie. We’ll be right back.

Paul Scheer [00:11:20] Welcome back. By now, I’m sure you’ve noticed that every Monday we rerelease Old HDTGM episodes back into our feed. This week’s Matinee Monday was Gymkata with Michael Showalter, and next week’s will be Twilight Breaking Dawn part two with Doug Benson. So keep on checking out these replays of classic episodes every Monday. All right, it’s time to talk to my buddy Jason. Let’s welcome him in with a new banger from our guy Rob from Long Island. Rob play us in.

Music [00:11:46] [Just Chat Song]

Paul Scheer [00:12:08] Welcome to Just Chat, Jason. This is the, Beautiful Disaster Last Looks.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:15] I don’t know, I don’t remember what that is.

Paul Scheer [00:12:18] Now.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:18] That’s a that’s a while ago. To my credit, this is a little while ago from when we recorded this. What was beautiful. What was Beautiful Disaster?

Paul Scheer [00:12:28] Now, I do remember it because it was my favorite movie from the tour. I think we did it in Connecticut, New Haven. And it was about the, young girl who, his dad is a gambler who, goes to college.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:43] It’s a college story. Yes. Right. Okay, I remember now. Yeah. Street. Oh, yeah. So fight club. College fight club. Yes. Yes, yes, now I know. What I go like perfectly cryptic bland title.

Paul Scheer [00:12:57] Oh, yeah. I mean that movie really is. And it’s actually the one that I think about the most because it is the one that’s so bizarre. And I feel like so many people watch a show, especially women who watch the show have been like, oh my gosh, I’m so glad you covered this because I was tricked into watching it. Like I feel like it was advertised the wrong way. Like, you know, like a hey, if you like this, you’ll like this. And the cover looks like you would like it. Yes. Yeah. It is not one of those.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:24] I will say, if you know more movies like this, suggest them, because this was a wild ride. Because, oh yeah, now I’m remembering it as being like, oh, I think this is going to be college romance story. But then it’s very quickly Fight Club and all this other violence. And I remember just being like, what tone is this movie? And that’s if there if people know more movies like this, let us know because I want, I want to watch more movies like this.

Paul Scheer [00:13:50] I go all in for movies like this. Oh my gosh, there’s so, so much fun. What has been going on with you? Have you been watching or listening to stuff?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:00] Yeah, I’ve got a list of fun stuff. Stuff to rundown. Yeah. Go ahead.

Paul Scheer [00:14:03] I want to tell people, if you really want to get Jason giving you everything you need to watch, you got to listen to TV I Say with Ashley Ray, because you guys did some giant, like, must watches there. And that really was fun.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:20] We did. Yeah. Just recently I’ve been on both, Ashley Ray’s fantastic podcast TV I say, and our friends Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald’s The Watch. On both shows, I talk exclusively about stuff that I’ve watched during the year, and especially stuff, especially talking with Ashley Ray especially. We talked about stuff that was like underrated. Like we’re not talking about The Bear and Succession and all the shows that get all the hype. We’re talking about a lot of the smaller shows, the shows that don’t get the love or the the shows that I love but just aren’t, being acknowledged in the same way or hyped the same way. It’s so easy for stuff to get lost in the shuffle. And so I’ve got a bunch of stuff on my list that kind of fit into that category.

Paul Scheer [00:15:04] Okay, perfect.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:05] I’ll shout out a couple of things just to get them out of the way. First, just because they are more bigger and more popular things based on when this comes out, I don’t know, I’m either loving or have just loved, this new season of True Detective. I’m having a blast with True Detective. I think it’s really fun. One of the shows that I’m absolutely, really obsessed with is Monsieur Spade, the Scott Frank, Tom Fontana, Sam Spade as an older, you know, he’s living in the south of France. And a mystery, of course, starts happening around him that he has to get involved with. And it’s both beautiful and fantastic. Clive Owen as an older Sam Spade. Great. I’ve got a couple of. I don’t know what it is, but I boy, am I in in on all like British rom com sitcoms. You know, funny, just the slice of life stuff. There’s a couple that I’ve just watched that are so good. Dead Pixels, the John Brown Show, Dead Pixels, I think is absolutely hilarious and so funny and and also, like, heartbreaking, at times, which I’ve thought was great. The Dolly Alderton show everything I Know about Love is absolutely fantastic. It is like a coming of age story, a for like a group of young women in their early 20s, like post-college, moving to New York, moving to London, rather to make a go of it. And it’s like their lives as they unfold in those first kind of way, the first blush of adulthood.

Paul Scheer [00:16:40] And that’s a great book, too. I read that book.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:42] It’s based on Dolly Anderton’s book. The the woman that wrote the book wrote the series, and it’s great.

Paul Scheer [00:16:49] Yeah. And she’s really great. I read her because she’s actually, produced by my publisher as well, so I like I was looking through what they were having and, or what other books they had.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:00] And I believe, and I haven’t gotten it, but I believe she has a new book that’s either now out or is coming out soon. Something like that, I noticed. Oh, great, I. I thought that show was fantastic. The other show that I’m watching is called Such Brave Girls. Another kind of hilarious and then brutal, half hour, British half hour. That’s just dynamite. Really fantastic.

Paul Scheer [00:17:24] I love this, I mean, but, you know, you still aren’t watching the number one British show that you should be watching. Traitors.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:30] I know, I know. I think I’m going to start it because I really know the the conversation every time we’re backstage for a show. Yeah. I feel like you and everybody else are talking about it. I now am officially like. I feel like I’m missing out. So I definitely got to start it.

Paul Scheer [00:17:46] It’s a perfect show for you. I think that like what you should do I and again I’ll, I’ll, I’ll probably say what I’ve said to you privately here. I think you could start with season two of the UK. And I think you could start with season two of Australia. They’re both available on, Peacock. And season two of of the US because they don’t they’re, you know, they’re completely organic seasons, like they all work the same way. I think that they figured some stuff out. I love the first season of the UK, but I’m also like, and this is where I’m kind of conflicted. And maybe you could have an opinion about this, like. I know that season two of the UK is better than season one. Do I tell you watch season one so then you can eventually watch season two? Or because it’s a reality show like do I want to hook you on season two? Do you watch season two and you’ll go back and maybe you’ll be more open to a season one? I don’t know.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:35] Well, I, I well that’s how I feel. I’m, I’m with you like whenever I recommend Alone to people I don’t tell people to start from the beginning because I think the first two seasons, while good, are are not nearly as transfixing as season three. And so I always say like, start with season three because I think you’re going to get hooked and then get around to one and two whenever you want. But like after three, I feel like is when the show really becomes the show. Yeah, yeah, four and five are a little wonky because it’s the team season, it’s the all star season. But like once we start getting into season six, seven, eight now we’re really cooking and I feel like I try and steer people towards seasons I know, especially if they’re not related. Like it sounds like Traitors is each season to season. Unrelated.

Paul Scheer [00:19:20] Yes. There’s like one thing that they do in season two of the American version where they bring back a character and I’m like, I don’t even know why they brought back this. Like, I don’t know what the whole deal is, but didn’t make a difference. It’s like, oh, here’s another reality star. They brought it back. Whatever I’m in, I like, I like it. There’s nothing that requires any knowledge. But I will say, my friend, Alex Kivitsky, director. He really nice guy. He’s got me into, like, a lot of Survivor stuff. And Survivor, the new season started and I’m already on board, but, Alex was the one who kind of. I recommended to him. I was like, if you really want to watch, I think the best season of traitors, you need to watch season two of Australia. And he was texting me over the weekend. Oh my God, that is truly I mean, I the only three people have watched it. Alex, our friend Lisa Gilroy and June and I so like it’s only three people can explore, you know, really express the insanity of that.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:16] That’s incredible, I love it.

Paul Scheer [00:20:17] I yeah, I really, really love it.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:18] Yeah, I gotta start it. I gotta start it. I’ll throw it a couple of others. Our friend Zach Woods, and Brandon Gardner, his writing partner, and Mike judge have a new stop motion animation show called In the Know that I think is very funny and very clever, a kind of a satire of an NPR station and all of the NPR kind of personas that are that I love so much. And as, as, like a lifelong NPR listener, it’s very fun to watch them kind of make fun of it. I enjoyed that. I’m rewatching Andy Daly’s absolutely tremendous show Review. So it is, it’s so good. And I had now gone long enough where I’d forgotten a lot of the elements and episodic storylines, and it’s so satisfying and so wall to wall funny. I can’t recommend it enough. Especially, of course, as everyone knows. Season one, episode four pancakes, divorce. Pancakes. Truly, I think one of the best TV episodes of the last 20 years. Just incredible stuff. And then I was just going to say, as we are going into the next election and all of this crazy election cycle nonsense is is starting to get louder, and the din of all this craziness is starting to feel, once again, so depressing and dystopian. I am watching, the Kings who made The Good Fight and The Good Wife did a season of a show called Braindead.

Paul Scheer [00:21:51] So good.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:51] Fantastic. It’s Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Tony Shalhoub and, a ton of other fantastic people coming in and out. It’s this great show that I feel like is all about the political nonsense that we find ourselves in, and how everybody appears to be calcifying into, like, absolutely bananas points of view, and then just caring about fighting. And that’s what this show is. The show is, you know, not to put too fine a point on it and let you know what it is. It’s about bugs who come from outer space, invade people’s brains and make everybody crazy. And it’s set during our political upheaval of, like, the 2016 election. The show is phenomenal. Can’t speak highly enough of it. It’s a blast. It’s so fun, so funny, so sharp, such a great political satire and just an absolutely a fun fucking show to watch.

Paul Scheer [00:22:48] I like those two. And you know, you’ve met Elsbeth, right?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:51] Yes. Oh, Elsbeth Tascioni? Absolutely. Yes. One of my absolute favorites. You know, that the show is starting in a matter of weeks.

Paul Scheer [00:22:59] Well, I got to do the episode where Elsbeth comes back to, the good fight. And so I got to do scenes with her, and I was so fucking psyched. And she’s a great actress and really great.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:10] So she’s a very tastic actress. She’s great in The Holdovers. Yes. Fantastic in The Holdovers. But, boy, Elsbeth Tascioni is absolutely one of my favorite characters just of the in The Good Wife lore. Yeah, she comes back like a couple of times a season and is so funny. And you can tell that they love that character and that actor so much because every, every central character in The good Fight. In The Good Wife rather, gets to have full episodes with Elsbeth Tascioni. Yeah. So it’s like, here she is with Alicia Florrick. Here she is with, Josh Charles’ character, she, you know, she gets to be a part of everybody’s stories because they were just like, what’s another good pairing? You can tell. What’s another good pairing for Elsbeth to be with? Because it’s so fun to have her energy.

Paul Scheer [00:24:00] She’s great. She’s really, really great. And it was so funny because when we did our scenes together, she hadn’t done it and she hadn’t done the show in years.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:08] Funny.

Paul Scheer [00:24:10] Yeah. You know, she was like, oh, I got it. And it was so funny because the day I shot my episode or the that week, it was the week that The Good Fight was announced it wasn’t coming back. It was the week that, Christy Brantski like, turned 60, I believe, or like, had a big, giant public birthday. It was the night of the, Met Gala, though, that she was at that. And then Elsbeth, Carrie Preston was back on the show, and it was like, oh, I haven’t done this character in years. I have to remember, like, how to do this character again. And we look in like a year later, it’s announced that she’s got her own spin off. I felt like I was in like, this crosshair of a moment. It was like they brought her in. Someone was going away. The show is coming up. It was just like, I feel like I got to see everything, on the side there.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:00] I’m excited for that show. I can’t wait for it to come out. I’ll throw in a couple of other things just for just for fun, just because I feel like some of them aren’t new. They’re from last year, but I thought were so great and again, so kind of slept on, the Pedro Almodovar short Strange Way of Life that is the, Ethan Hawke, Pedro Pascal movie that he did. It’s like an 18 minute, little, little Western. Fantastic. There’s been a bunch of, like, fantastic shorts. Like all the Wes Anderson. I feel like Asteroid City got a lot of press and a lot of notice because it was terrific. But what’s. Anderson also released an entire movie of Roald Dahl shorts. Well, they’re all on there on Netflix, then they’re all together. But you can watch them individually and they’re terrific.

Paul Scheer [00:25:53] Oh, I gotta check this out.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:54] Absolutely worthwhile. Bo th of those, I think are great. Strange way of life especially I thought was just absolutely fantastic. There’s a great documentary out about the elephant six Recording Company bands, so it’s like Neutral Milk Hotel, Olivia Tremor Control, Circulatory System, Apples in Stereo, all that group of like, Athens, Georgia, Denver related bands that put out so much great music in like in, you know, in my post-college years, essentially like starting for me in college and then after, you know, and those bands were so incredible, a lot of blending of members and a lot of like sharing of stage with like a number of bands that just are, you know, it’s the same eight people. They just shift around in a different one of them is singing now, so it’s a different band kind of vibes. They’re all characters. Every one of them is a character. And again, we’ve now entered the stage of, for me, documentaries that are about people my own age. So all the footage, all the footage looks like it’s from when I was in college. You know, they all currently look like I feel like I look now. It is like so it’s such a fucking weird. It was the same thing with, like, Meet Me in the bathroom, that book about the New York music scene, I loved it, great documentary. But again, I’m like, wait, these are my these are people my age. Fuck. I’m already at the age where we make documentaries about my own past, which is very unsettling. But I loved that documentary. I thought it was great.

Paul Scheer [00:27:25] And by the way, that’s available on Apple. It’s available on Amazon. Yeah. And you can also get on this website Kino I love it. Yeah. No, I feel that way too. When you watch like a documentary about something that you lived through and you’re like, all right. Yeah. Okay. Sure, sure. All right.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:41] It’s really it’s sketchy as all hell. I’m like, I don’t like this.

Paul Scheer [00:27:45] No, I know, I feel, I believe, I feel it. I mean, it’s it’s a very bizarre feeling.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:50] And you’re like, yeah, I’ll give if you don’t mind. I’ll give. Can we take a couple of minutes? Because you asked me a while ago about, like, finding new music. Yes. Getting turned on to new music and this kind of stuff. And I want to just take a moment to shout out the death of Pitchfork. Pitchfork. The website Pitchfork, which, you know, has been an absolute part of my daily routine since it oh, since it began publishing, a website that I read one of very few websites in the late 90s that when I worked at JP Morgan, I would read Pitchfork every day and Ain’t It Cool News and figure out what I knew about stuff, you know? Pitchfork continues to review four new albums a day. It’s gone through the ups and downs, if you want to hear.

Paul Scheer [00:28:37] I thought they just went through a big part like isn’t it shut down now or there’s something major that just happened?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:41] Oh no, that’s what I’m saying. This is the death of Pitchfork. This is. The Pitchfork is now being subsumed into GQ for some because they’re all part of the same parent company. They’ve laid everybody off at Pitchfork, and there’s just going to be some reviews in GQ. It’s like a real loss. And especially a loss for exactly what you were talking about back in the day, which was, how do I get turned on to new stuff? How do I find new music? And we’re, we’re watching, like the death of these kind of curation engines, and we’re just living inside of the algorithm, an algorithmic kind of curation, which is, you know, not the best. If you want to read very or hear very smart people talk about the, you know, the death of Pitchfork or the recent cuts in Bandcamp staff. Bob Levsets and Ezra Klein have both put out kind of very beautiful kind of, articles or think pieces about the death of Pitchfork, but it’s a real bummer. It’s a real bummer because I find that like it is it’s harder and harder to find new stuff because like, like all the entertainment we talk about, there’s just too much of it. And so here’s a couple of places that I, that I go that I feel like people can go to find stuff. So I’m excited. There’s there’s a bunch of podcasts that I feel like are good music podcasts. The NPR show All Songs Considered, I think does a weekly episode that is new, new albums that have come out this week. They’re pretty varied and and the hosts are pretty good about highlighting all sorts of music. So you get a good swath of stuff, right? I especially love when Lars Godrich is on who is absolutely I. I find he has a similar taste as I do. His his episodes are called Vikings Choice. Lots of heavy metal, experimental, international. It’s great, great stuff. New York Times pop cast can sometimes be infuriating conversations but always super interesting. Very cool, very smart people talking about music. There’s an episode of the, podcast Search Engine that is all about how do you find new music. And it’s with the journalist Khalif Hasina, who’s fantastic. There’s a website called Dusted. I think it might be Dusted magazine, or maybe it’s just called Dusted. They do new music reviews that are terrific. There’s a British website called Quietus. They put out and review great music and great stuff. These are just places that I go and find stuff now. Bandcamp, Bandcamp regularly does features that are best jazz on Bandcamp or best, you know, essential releases of the week if you’re again, if you’re just looking for a way to be turned on to new stuff, these are good places to start. You know, if if you are losing something like a pitchfork or something like that in your life anyway, there’s, there’s there’s a bunch of ways to come at this.

Paul Scheer [00:31:41] And I think that sometimes that you get like, not only do you get lost, like, I find myself going back, I, you know, I’m on Spotify on Apple Music, I have all my subscriptions running, but it’s like a while I have everything in my hands. I don’t ever just let it like, I mean, the algorithm can sometimes pick it for me and sometimes I’ll be good. But I’m also like, I don’t trust even the algorithm. I just kind of go back to what I know.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:01] Yeah. And it’s like TV is in the sense that, like, you have to decide what you want to listen to, seek it out and listen to it. And I like discovery. I like the sense of surprise and discovery that used to come along with listening to the radio or, you know, or being turned on to new stuff by people whose taste I like, similar to the the ways in which I’m talking about it here. Another shout out I’ll give is to I did an episode of the, YouTube series That amoeba record Store runs called What’s in My Bag? I did one years ago, but I still listen to that. Or I still watch, though they they put out a new one every week and every band or comedian or actor that goes on there and picks stuff that they like that to turn people on to music they like. I’ve found so much stuff just in those recommendations. I think it’s fantastic. So, you know, and I’m just here’s a couple of artists that I want to shout out. Connie Lovett, beautiful singer songwriter, New York based, has an incredible album called Coconut Mirror. Joni Mitchell’s Court and Spark turns 50 this year. There have been a bunch of great, like, think pieces, big articles about that record and Court and Spark, even though Hejira is like my all time favorite Joni record, Court and Spark is what is how I got turned on to Joni. The song Help me played on the radio. I heard it and was obsessed with it and bought the cassette the next opportunity I could. So like, that’s a great one. And then I’ve been singularly obsessed with one song for about seven months, in which I almost exclusively listened to this one song. The album is from two. This is where it gets a little confusing. It’s two, I believe, Pittsburgh bands that shared a lead singer, and so the album is both of their records combined into one thing, and the bands are The Short Dark Strangers and the Shady Motherfuckers, and the song is We’re Not Animals and I cannot stop listening to this song. I don’t know what it is. It has a hold on me in a way that I find, like I have listened to it hundreds of times, like if it was available on Spotify, which it’s not, it would unquestionably have been my Spotify wrapped number one song of the year.

Paul Scheer [00:34:20] Wow.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:20] Just for number of plays and the fact that it is not that I don’t I can’t get it on Spotify makes me nuts. Anyway, here is a snippet of the song.

Music [00:34:50] [We are Not Animals]

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:07] It’s great.

Paul Scheer [00:35:10] Speaking of songs, I want to say two things. I just recently watched the, Sleater Kinney What’s in My Bag, which is really great. They have a new album out, which I love. And, I would say that the other thing about songs is we are still, accepting submissions. We kind of put away our American Idol contest. We’re gonna come back to it. Just been the holidays and stuff. We’ll come back to it and we’ll get into it. So you can still send us songs and we’ll still pick a winner. We’re, you know, we’re having fun with it. This is a long, a long reality show that we’re running here. You know, so don’t don’t, don’t get too bent out of shape. And I will tell you, they had to explain what a bastard was the other day, because when my son got in the car, ODB was playing. And I love ODB. I have a sideshow statue of ODB coming out.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:55] Really?

Paul Scheer [00:35:56] Oh. It’s the best. I’m so fucking psyched.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:58] That’s great.

Paul Scheer [00:35:59] It’s like ODB coming out of the Brooklyn subway and as he’s like coming out, like he’s like ripping apart the subway. It’s it’s like it’s such a cool statue. It’s it’s like I have three fucked up sideshows, statues. One is of ODB, the other is Jake Gyllenhaal’s, in, in Spiderman, where they have the Jake Gyllenhaal Spiderman.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:22] Mysterio?

Paul Scheer [00:36:23] When Mysterio, like, creates a crazy fucked up image of Tony Stark rising from the dead, but all fucked up.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:29] Yeah. Oh wow.

Paul Scheer [00:36:31] So I have that one. And now I also really found this one that I wanted so bad, and maybe it doesn’t. I was so excited about it when I saw it, but it’s the, Doctor Strange from the Sam Raimi The Multiverse of Madness where he goes insane.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:45] And in the dark. Yes, yes.

Paul Scheer [00:36:46] The dark strange.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:49] Oh that’s great.

Paul Scheer [00:36:50] I love each one of them because they’re just. They’re just like, I don’t know, they’re very different.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:54] Oh, I love that. That’s rad.

Paul Scheer [00:36:57] All right. Oh, yeah, go ahead

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:58] I just wanted to shout out all that music and talk about music and ask. I feel like I’ve had some success asking our audience to help me find things or to help, solve a problem or something. I’m looking for all of night music. The Hal Willner, Lorne Michaels music show that aired Sunday nights, at 11:30. It was like SNL, but it was Hal Willner was the Saturday Night Live music director, and he did. They did a show for a number of years on Sunday nights. That was just music. So it was in the beginning. I think Jools Holland hosted it. David Sanborn hosted in that house band was incredible. Omar Hakim on drums. Phenomenal. And they would have the guests would be like in one episode, it would be Sonic Youth and then also the Sun Ra Arkestra. And then also like a blues guitarist, you know, they would have they would cast it so that the episodes were fantastic. And I’ve found a number of individual performances on YouTube, but I’m looking for the whole thing. I want to be able to watch all of Night Music. Can anybody help me?

Paul Scheer [00:38:12] I think they will be able to because I when I last talked on the show I did with Huebel, our live stream, I asked if someone could get me all of Kid Nation season one, and, I got it, I love it.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:21] Yeah, I love that.

Paul Scheer [00:38:23] All right, well, Jason, it’s been a blast talking to you. We will talk again. We’ll, we’ll see you next time.

Paul Scheer [00:38:29] Such a pleasure to chat with him. And finally, it’s time to announce our next movie. Next week, we will be going from a frisbee shot in the balls to erotic masquerade balls and more. That’s right. Next episode, we are returning to the world of Christian Gray and Anastasia Steele for part two of the 50 Shades of Gray trilogy. That’s right. 2017’s 50 Shades Darker. Oh, you want to break down the plot? I’ll give it to you. As Christian and Anna begin to rekindle their relationship, shadowy figures from Christian’s past start to reappear, determined to destroy their hopes for a future together. And you know what? Honestly, that sounds more exciting than anything that fucking happens in that movie. Rotten tomatoes gives this film a 11% score on the Tomatometer, and my wonderful Unspooled co-host Amy Nicholson wrote for MTV. “The movies aren’t so bad. They’re good, they’re brilliantly bad, they’re genius. With director James Foley dutifully presenting every inane plot point while gifting us excuses to laugh.” Listen to the trailer here for 50 Shades Darker.

Trailer Audio [00:39:23] He’s changing.

Trailer Audio [00:39:25] Are you happy?

Trailer Audio [00:39:28] I’ve never been happier.

Trailer Audio [00:39:29] Gotta be quicker than that, Gray.

Trailer Audio [00:39:37] You know that girl, Christian?

Trailer Audio [00:39:40] You think you’re the first woman to try to save him?

Trailer Audio [00:39:44] If something were to happen to you. I can never forgive myself.

Paul Scheer [00:39:53] You can stream 50 Shades Darker for free on Max. I think you can even get the unrated version on Max too and on Peacock. You can rent it at all the usual places and also use your local public library. People, we love that. We are almost at the end of the episode, but before we go, check out this bonus scene from our Beautiful Disaster show where you get a little peek behind the curtain on how we design the t shirts for the episode. And we did this with the audience, and this is a fun one. Anyway, if you want to buy this t shirt for Beautiful Disaster, you can get it at Teepublic.com/HDTGM. Take a listen.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:22] I loved the scene where she’s Instagram stalking him in class and he’s right behind her and is like, hey, I see you Instagram stalking me. She’s like I’m not. Then he’s like, okay, cool, whatever. I’ll pick you up at eight and then leaves because he’s not in the class? He should have been in the class with her.

Paul Scheer [00:40:42] Anyone can audit. All right. Any other t shirt ideas? Any other t shirt ideas? Well, we.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:49] Can we get house lights for a second? Just so we can see some of these. Raise your hand if you think you’ve got a good one and make sure it’s not dog shit. Oh, when did I eat noodles? With a picture of someone with noodles on their face fresh from the barf. Okay, great. What do you got?

Paul Scheer [00:41:08] All right, how about this?

June Diane Raphael [00:41:08] That’s kind of good.

Paul Scheer [00:41:09] Sacramento Frisbee Club is great. How about just a picture of jeans and meow coming out of where the fly is?

June Diane Raphael [00:41:20] Paul, you would. You would not wear that.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:22] What if it’s a picture? What if it’s abs and then like a waistband of underwear and meow coming out of it right now. So you can wear a shirt with abs.

Paul Scheer [00:41:35] It’s tricky.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:35] Yeah.

Paul Scheer [00:41:36] Up there, up in the center balcony. Yes. You feel like you got one? Beautiful upper decker.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:42] I don’t know that that makes much sense. Right here. Pigeon says what? Okay, I like pigeon. I don’t love says what? Go ahead. You put ice on it, you put ice on it.

Paul Scheer [00:41:57] So far, Sacramento Frisbee club feels.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:01] What? I feel like we’ve said some other things even today. Yeah. Well, then don’t say it. I have an update. If it’s not a t shirt during the t shirt section. Don’t raise your fucking hands. Get out of here! Get him out of here! Security, escort this man out of here. You don’t understand the rules, sir.

Paul Scheer [00:42:24] What’s up Pidge?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:25] What’s up Pidge? It’s not bad.

Paul Scheer [00:42:28] Good. But I feel like. Oh, yes. Yes, you should be politely raising your hand. He wants the diarrhea.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:36] Escort him out too. Actually, you escort him out. Both of you.

Paul Scheer [00:42:40] What do you got?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:41] Make your own diarrhea jizz shirt, you fucking monster. Put it on a pizza.

Paul Scheer [00:42:49] What do you got? I want to be around you. What is it? I want to be around you.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:55] That’s too weird. Is that a t shirt suggestion or an actual personal desire?

Paul Scheer [00:43:03] How about Paul’s my cousin? Yes. Child Poker league.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:09] Is there something to lucky 13? Is there something to.

Paul Scheer [00:43:15] I mean, there’s the Taylor Swift.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:15] Travis mad dog, his brothers.

Paul Scheer [00:43:19] We’re having a hard time with this shirt.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:21] Remember when they were at family dinner? By the way.

Paul Scheer [00:43:24] Sacramento Frisbee Club feels solid to me.

June Diane Raphael [00:43:27] Yes.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:28] There is also Tucker Dormitory. Like, there could be something.

Paul Scheer [00:43:32] Tucker dormitory is great.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:35] Tucker dorm. But there’s got to be something. Is it just a visual of the building?

Paul Scheer [00:43:40] Just a simple building. It’s Tucker dormitory, Bulgaria.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:46] Now I like it. Would you buy it? Would you buy it?

Paul Scheer [00:43:51] Tucker dormitory, Bulgaria.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:54] Commit to buying it right now.

Paul Scheer [00:43:56] No, I like it. I like I like that simple and nice. Tucker dormitory. And we can have a girl up front playing Frisbee.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:03] I love it.

Paul Scheer [00:44:03] All right, that is it for the show. Please remember to rate and review us. It helps. And if you’re listening on Apple Podcasts, make sure you are following us. Visit us on social media @HDTGM. And a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonne, Molly Reynolds, our movie picking producer Avril Halley, and our associate producer, Jess Cisneros, and our engineers Casey Holford and Rich Garcia. We’ll see you next week for 50 Shades Darker.