EP. 345 — The Ugly Truth LIVE!

Paul Scheer [00:00:00] Women are from Mars and men are from Scotland. We saw The Ugly Truth. So you know what that means.

 

Music [00:00:12] [Intro Song]

 

Paul Scheer [00:01:00] Hello people of Earth! And hello people of Scotland! We are live in Glasgow for a very special Easter Sunday show with Scotland’s patron saint, Gerard Butler, for a movie that has not just one Scotsman but two. That’s right. I’m also counting Craig Ferguson. Tonight’s movie, if you didn’t see it is the 2009 rom com that shows that men are pigs. And to get a good man, a woman’s got to become a pig or something like that. I will say this. This movie is confused about what it is teaching. And it also feels like it should have come out in 1987. And it almost did, because this script was on the shelf for 12 years. And then someone decided to do a rewrite of it. And then we got this, Katherine Heigl second highest grossing movie, $206 million. This shit worked. We’ll break it all down. But first, please welcome my co-host, Mr. Jason Mantzoukas!

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:02:40] What’s up jerks!? That’s right. That’s right. Scotland! Yeah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:02:49] Here we are in Scotland, finally getting to talk about.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:02:56] It was daylight savings last night.

 

Paul Scheer [00:02:57] Yeah, oh I know.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:02:59] I did not know. Because it happened in America three weeks ago. I already lost an hour this year. You’re telling me I got to give another back to you fucks? I’m sitting in bed, and I genuinely was like, did I just black out for an hour and truly got upset and feel like you people have robbed me of a second hour of my life. Never mind having to watch this dog shit movie starring your king in exile. My King two.

 

Paul Scheer [00:03:34] Jason.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:35] Paul.

 

Paul Scheer [00:03:36] I saw this film in the theater. I paid for it now twice.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:41] Oh, this movie $4.19 to rent. $4.99 to buy. I was like, of course I’m not going to buy this. I have rented it four times on three devices. I should have just bought it. I’ve rented. I have self-financed a sequel to this movie, I believe.

 

Paul Scheer [00:04:01] This movie. What’s great about it is it’s really rewatchable.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:07] Well, I will say it ages well.

 

Paul Scheer [00:04:12] No. No no no no. Ladies and gentlemen, my other cohost has just stormed the stage. Mrs. June Diane Raphael!

 

June Diane Raphael [00:04:21] Thank you so much. I could not wait a moment longer.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:27] Welcome.

 

Paul Scheer [00:04:27] So sorry, June.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:04:28] No, I couldn’t. You both are about to get into it, and I couldn’t wait back there.

 

Paul Scheer [00:04:33] Well, give it up for June one more time.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:04:35] My ugly truth.

 

Paul Scheer [00:04:40] And I will say this June. How are you?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:04:45] I’m well. How are you, Paul?

 

Paul Scheer [00:04:47] I’m well. Thank you for asking. You and I saw this movie together.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:04:52] I don’t remember that.

 

Paul Scheer [00:04:53] Okay, I do, I do remember that.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:04:57] So for a while, I would say from the years of 2014 to actually, quite recently, whenever Paul and I would see a movie, it meant we were leaving very small children at home. And so every movie we saw in the theater, to us, was the best movie ever. When we saw Four Christmases over Thanksgiving.

 

Paul Scheer [00:05:17] We didn’t have children.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:05:18] We didn’t have children, but we were leaving a very intense kind of family situation. We went to the theater and we both turned to each other and said, this is the best movie we’ve ever seen.

 

Paul Scheer [00:05:29] I recently rewatched it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:30] I tried to watch that movie this year. It is absolute horseshit.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:05:35] It is, but at the time I was like, this is just so good. Now, I don’t remember seeing this movie, but I have to be up front. I liked it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:46] This movie is what a snapshot of an era.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:05:52] Time and a place.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:52] What a time. The soundtrack is absolutely insufferable. The clothing is preposterous.

 

Paul Scheer [00:05:59] See, I disagree. I think this is a snapshot of an era that was before this movie. Like, we look at it now, like, I see this was definitely like 2004, 2005.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:11] Is it not?

 

Paul Scheer [00:06:12] 2009.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:14] Okay.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:16] But you have to imagine.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:18] Was it on a shelf for four years?

 

Paul Scheer [00:06:18] No.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:19] Here’s the thing. You have to imagine. It was written in 2004.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:22] Yes.

 

Paul Scheer [00:06:22] Okay.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:23] Got greenlit in like 2005, 2006.

 

Paul Scheer [00:06:26] Okay.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:27] They made it. It’s definitely early 2000. I need to talk about the wardrobe.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:34] Please start talking. Never stop.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:38] So the beginning before the big change happens.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:42] Oh, yes. Oh, the makeover montage, the makeover scenes. And then the date montages are just gold.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:50] But I could not take my eyes off her shirts. And there wasn’t a single blouse because there were all blouses that made any sense. Every.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:04] No outfit. So much so that when he says, you got to dress different, I was like, thank you. Yes, thank God there’s a man here to tell her what’s up.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:13] She does.

 

Paul Scheer [00:07:14] I have a theory. My theory is that this, like Gerard Butler in this movie, could be the gay best friend.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:25] There are blouses. I know you want to move off the blouses, but we’re going to stay here for another minute.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:31] I will also say once we finish talking about blouses, I’d love to talk about hair.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:34] Oh, we’re going to go into hair, and then we’re going to segue quite nicely and easily into belts.

 

Paul Scheer [00:07:42] I’m here for the blouse discussion. I’m just saying that I felt like he acts as if he is a gay best friend.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:49] Yes. And there are some ugly truths that he has to tell her. Oh, and one of them is, is burn your wardrobe. Yes. The blouses. There is one that I could have sworn had a hood. There were every single sleeve was surprising.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:08] That dissonance that’s created with very low rise skinny jeans, and then a small ish top that is all hooded and long sleeved now. And so it really cuts the body a strange way.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:08:23] How about the t shirt vest? That long t shirt, gray vest that had not one skinny belt around it, but two.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:35] But not.

 

Paul Scheer [00:08:37] Here. Here. There it is right there. The t shirt, vest. You can all see it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:43] What? I mean, come on, come on.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:08:46] And look at those sleeves have something.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:49] The sleeves have a button up like a thing, and like, she might as well have the epaulets on in certain certain outfits.

 

Paul Scheer [00:08:55] I had a shirt like this that a commercial casting director liked, and I always, like, got a button up my sleeve. And I like the idea of buttoning up a sleeve, like I’m holding it in place.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:11] As if this sleeve, gravity is pulling it to the ground.

 

Paul Scheer [00:09:15] Like I am made, like the shirt is made out of lead.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:18] I’m just saying, if only I had a snap or a button.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:09:21] If only I had some piece of technology to make wearing this sleeve easier.

 

Paul Scheer [00:09:26] Clamp it up.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:27] Meanwhile, I just will take. I don’t want to. I’m not moving on from her. But he wears this absolute really ridiculous sweatshirt on the air. Off the air. This is his best look.

 

Paul Scheer [00:09:39] What I didn’t like about that was it showed me that he like. Not that he doesn’t give a fuck, but it’s like he should give a little bit of a fuck. Like he’s on television.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:50] I feel like. And I’m just conjecturing here, I feel like this is Jerry Butler’s sweatshirt. And he was like I want to wear this.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:09:59] Jason. And, you know, and I studied his close ups. And by the way, I’m a huge fan.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:10:05] Huge.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:10:05] Huge fan. The movie didn’t start until he came on screen, as far as I was concerned. But, you know, in every shot I studied those close ups because I’m like, wow, he did not. There’s no way he sat in a makeup chair for any amount of time. And he looks so hungover.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:10:22] Yeah. He’s sweaty, visibly sweaty in a lot of movie, a lot of the movie, visibly sweaty. And he’s exuding so much charisma as to force everybody else out of the movie. He’s so, so compelling to watch. It’s incredible.

 

Paul Scheer [00:10:39] I became a male chauvinist just watching it. I’m like, I sold.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:10:43] I stand with him. I stand with him. Believe Jerry.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:10:47] Yes. He could out Andrew Tate, Andrew Tate right now,

 

Paul Scheer [00:10:52] I’m ready for it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:10:53] He’s espousing beliefs I find horrid and reprehensible. And I was like, yes, go!

 

June Diane Raphael [00:11:01] Can I tell you, the scene where he turned around after Colin and we’ll talk about Colin for after Colin.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:10] What a dud.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:11:10] After Colin was in the hotel room when he turned around and walked away from that room before she came out, I cried.

 

Paul Scheer [00:11:17] If only. Yeah, if only Colin was played by James Marsden. We needed someone that had. We needed life.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:25] He’s supposed to be a dud. But you’re right. He should have also had more charisma. More. And Marsden’s a great one.

 

Paul Scheer [00:11:32] Because it’s like you don’t want her with him, but like, you don’t also understand. Yeah, give me a Speakman. Give me a Scott Speakman. Anyone from Felicity.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:11:42] But that’s what the the thing is, The Ugly Truth of it all is that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:48] I love it. Are you getting paid every time you say the title?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:11:53] There are so many, so many movies that are made during this time posit a world in which every single woman under 30 or 40 and under has a checklist. I’ve never known a woman to have a checklist. I mean, maybe there’s one thing which is like, have a job or I mean, I but the idea that women at this time had, like a giant checklist.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:16] She feels like she’s from, like, olden days. Like she feels like her.

 

Paul Scheer [00:12:23] She must curtsy for me before I get into my carriage.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:26] Her checklist is so thorough as to be a and and my boy, my boy Jerry Butler pointed out a pure fiction, pure fiction that at her age, she everybody in the movie feels like they’re written to be 21 instead of 36.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:12:43] Yes.

 

Paul Scheer [00:12:44] The problem with  this movie, though, is.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:47] It’s flawless?

 

Paul Scheer [00:12:48] Well, yes. I mean, because.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:12:50] Well, because that’s the thing though, is that this is where I did I did enjoy the movie because I was like, yeah, his ideas about women, her ideas about men are just as ludicrous, are just as absurd, like he can’t. See women, but she can’t really see a man either. So again, that’s The Ugly Truth.

 

Paul Scheer [00:13:09] But no. But June. No no no.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:12] I agree, I agree.

 

Paul Scheer [00:13:15] June, June, June I you I think you misread the movie because at the end of the movie he makes her him. And it works. And then that’s it. So he’s right.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:13:27] Wait a second. You don’t think he changed too?

 

Paul Scheer [00:13:30] Very slight. He was already heartbroken.

 

[00:13:36] He said he was in love with her. She doesn’t do that.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:13:39] And he has to say it multiple times.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:41] Yes, he’s been hurt before, Paul.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:13:45] At a certain point he says, go with Colin because he doesn’t want to see her get hurt. He doesn’t trust himself.

 

Paul Scheer [00:13:51] Beth, play clip eight.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:55] I don’t like that you can do this.

 

Movie Audio [00:13:57] I had a momentary lapse in judgment when I thought you were more than you are. But you weren’t. Clearly.

 

Movie Audio [00:14:01] Oh, yeah? What does that mean?

 

Movie Audio [00:14:03] I’m Mike Chadway. I like girls in Jell-O. I like to fuck like a monkey. Don’t fall in love. It’s scary.

 

Movie Audio [00:14:10] Yeah, it is scary.

 

Movie Audio [00:14:11] It’s terrifying. Especially when I’m in love with a psycho like you.

 

Movie Audio [00:14:15] I am not a psycho.

 

Movie Audio [00:14:20] I just told you that I loved you. And all you heard was psycho. You’re the definition of neurotic.

 

Movie Audio [00:14:25] No, the definition of neurotic is the person who suffers from anxiety, obsessive compulsive acts, and physical ailments without any objective evidence.

 

Movie Audio [00:14:32] Shut up. Yet again. I just told you I am in love with you and you’re standing here giving me a vocabulary lesson.

 

Movie Audio [00:14:41] You’re in love with me. Why?

 

Movie Audio [00:14:48] Shit out of me.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:49] Incredible.

 

Paul Scheer [00:14:55] No speech, no nothing.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:57] Don’t need it. They don’t need it. Although I will say I agree she has behaved like a psycho the whole movie.

 

Paul Scheer [00:15:05] He has not made any. He is still a straight shooter. He’s like, yeah, I said you’re a psycho and that’s all you hear? Look, I love you. What else do you need? She’s like, all right, I’m in. Let’s go. That’s that’s how the movie ends. Like, he is not changed one iota. He is not capable.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:19] Sure he has. He’s made he’s made himself vulnerable in in ways that Paul, you are not willing to see. This is the only moment where you like. At one point, Craig Ferguson fucking asks him a hardball question on that show. What? He had a fucking robot talking horse on that show, he says, who broke your heart? When did you become fucking Oprah?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:44] Yeah. And it rattles him.

 

Paul Scheer [00:15:46] Rattles him.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:48] Rattles him.

 

Paul Scheer [00:15:48] And that’s the one moment we’re supposed to be like, oh, he’s not such an asshole, I guess. Like, we get no detail. We get no detail about what was part. I had a heartbreak once. Oh, now I’m a relatable character.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:02] Not once. He says it happened many times. Many times.

 

Paul Scheer [00:16:07] It’s gonna happen again.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:08] Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because he can’t stay with this psycho. The woman who does a background check and says to her first date, kudos on your comprehensive car insurance. If I’m Eve from entourage, I am like and goodbye, madam. What? And I’m Eve from entourage.

 

Paul Scheer [00:16:28] By the way. He is five five, not five.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:31] Yeah, I thought that way. Yeah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:16:34] That’s true. That is true.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:37] I did write at the very beginning. Who is the protagonist of this movie? Well, I guess that’s a good place to start because my big question was, what is this show? Is it a news show? Is it an entertainment show?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:16:53] I thought you were talking about this show.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:56] Paul, this is how did this get made.

 

Paul Scheer [00:16:57] Oh, shit.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:01] Yeah, I wrote it over and over again because I thought it was. I thought it was one thing. Then it was a different. It is a when it was revealed to be local Sacramento, I was like, oh, okay. She keeps saying it’s her show. Like she created the news.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:16] I also I don’t want to play down to you Scotland at all. And this is also people on the podcast. You did say before the show these people are idiots.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:17:24] Yeah. You said that, Paul.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:25] That’s only because I was next to a person from London. Now what I will say is this. Sacramento isn’t even like it’s not even a big market. It’s a nut. It’s a nothing city.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:41] It’s a column of cities.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:43] It literally has no defined. Yes. It has no defining feature. It’s not like like if you say Sacramento I live in the state that Sacramento is in. I’m like the Sacramento kings play there?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:53]  I believe it’s our state capital.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:55] It is.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:17:56] Actually a lot goes on there.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:58] No sac town.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:01] Our state really is the generator of like a lot of money in the United States.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:06] But I’m talking about culturally what is Sacramento.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:10] A lot is decided in Sacramento. But I agree.

 

Paul Scheer [00:18:12] Do you think that that’s why she’s dressing so badly that she’s only buying clothes from local Sacramento clothing?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:16] It’s possible. Here’s the thing about her job, though. I mean, they they they keep on telling us that she’s amazing and she’s a hard hitting producer. And like, she does journalism. And yet the show that we we have seen her do her show is terrible.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:35] It’s awful. It’s a joke show where the only piece we see is like a cheesy cooking segment.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:41] It’s a cooking segment in which the chef gives Cheryl Hines duck. And what was that?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:49] Why was that meant to be upsetting?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:50] Because I think she was allergic to it. But Katherine Heigl.

 

Paul Scheer [00:18:53] They don’t pay off on the joke that she’s allergic. She just.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:56] I take allergies very seriously.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:59] No, I know you do.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:00] So if that was the case that I’m. I stand with Cheryl.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:19:03] I think she was allergic. Okay, but again, we’re supposed to understand her as someone who is like, putting out fires and dealing with big personalities and this and that. And I’m like, well, the duck thing seems like you’re fuck up, Katherine.

 

Paul Scheer [00:19:19] This is my issue. They literally spend so much time like she’s amazing at her job. Scene one scene to the show is failing. You’re terrible at your job.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:29] Scene three. Scene four. She has no idea what’s happening with production. Yeah. She’s like, wait, she hasn’t. She must have okayed all of these segments, which she’s like, what’s going on? Where’s he going? What’s happening? And then she doesn’t know that they’ve hired two women to jello wrestle?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:19:46] And built a set? They built the restaurant set.

 

Paul Scheer [00:19:49] Camera crew.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:19:52] She’d have to sign off on a budget for that restaurant set.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:54] Hiring those actor.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:19:56] Now, here’s. What I really didn’t understand. And again, I loved the movie, but I didn’t. I didn’t totally understand when at the at the end of the movie, when he is his CBS is dangling this very attractive offer over her.

 

Paul Scheer [00:20:09] Not even a national show. Just mind you, again, just to put the stakes here. This is like you’ll go to another small market. It’s not like you’re going to get your own show. It’s like you’ll just do this in Chicago.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:22] Bigger, bigger market than Sac Town.

 

Paul Scheer [00:20:25] We’re talking about like a step.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:30] Step by step baby. That’s how you that’s that’s how it happens.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:20:33] But but here’s my question. What during that when she’s about to go see him before he’s going on Craig Ferguson and on a national market, she’s saying to herself, like, your show would be nothing without me. And what I did for this show. And I’m like, what did you do?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:50] You actually did. You actively tried to get in the way of the shows excellence that our guy Mike has brought to the equation.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:01] Is but the moment where she has the camera guys zoom in on him, on Mike licking the jello off of one of the lady’s fingers. It seems like that is the moment she keeps on pointing to as like the pivotal thing that launched.

 

Paul Scheer [00:21:19] That was her choice.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:22] They start to really as their flirting becomes the thing, it starts to be evidenced in the work that they feel like they work, and they’re getting a 12 share of this kind of.

 

Paul Scheer [00:21:32] By the way, a 12 share in Sacramento is insane.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:34] That’s impossible.

 

Paul Scheer [00:21:36] Again, this like just put her in LA. Why are we making it so fucking complicated?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:42] Well like I did love the reason why he was in Sacramento. That made sense to me.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:46] I wrote that. Why is he in Sacramento?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:49] Because his sister, who doesn’t have an accent, lives there.

 

Paul Scheer [00:21:53] I believe that he’s trying not to have an accent.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:56] What?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:56] ButI spent I spent all of act one being like, is he pretending to be American? Because it’s not working. And then at one point, I think, did they do a background check on him? And someone says, He came into this country when he ws 6, but can I pick that accent out from my, my dad, my dad, my dad came to America when he was 12. No accent.

 

Paul Scheer [00:22:23] Well, the only thing that I loved was that he was on local access. Like, which means that anyone can do a show he was on, like local access and everyone’s talking about it and his set is truly amazing. Can we look at this? This is scene three.

 

Movie Audio [00:22:42] Now listen up, ladies, because I’m only going to say this once.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:44] The mannequins in lingerie is next level with a hockey stick.

 

Movie Audio [00:22:48] Men are simple. We cannot be trained.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:53] Why is he barbecuing?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:55] He’s burning books.

 

Movie Audio [00:22:57] Time and money. Okay, I want to be alone. Then that’s.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:01] This is the saddest apartment I’ve ever seen. The art in her apartment is tragic.

 

Movie Audio [00:23:08] It’s called a stair master. Get on it and get skinny. Well, you know, because at the end of the day, all we’re interested in is looks. And no one falls in love with your personality at first sight. We fall in love with your tits and your ass, and we stick around because of what you’re willing to do with them. So you want to win a man over. You don’t need ten steps. You need one. And it’s called a blowjob. And don’t forget to.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:41] My question, because what now? What follows is she calls in to the show, she calls into the show and they have a conversation and it’s fiery and he likes it. And he’s then they go back and forth and it’s it’s their first bit of flirting in the movie before they even have met each other or anything like that. And then subsequently the next day, Art from Bosch give it up in my Bosch heads in Scotland. By gosh, we got a couple. We got a couple art from Bosch. Who’s the boss? Is there, and he’s like, I hired this guy, blah blah blah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:24:12] Last night he hired him in the middle of the night now. Yeah. And he starts work that day.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:19] Clearly, after seeing this episode where his employee Katherine Heigl calls in, nobody recognizes that it’s her calling in, which is absurd. Everybody must be like, hey, isn’t that you? By the way, it’s also 2009, and he’s just doing a straight up radio show on television. He’s doing like a Howard Stern show type. I mean, he’s like, he’s not looking at the camera like, this is the worst show of all time. Like, just put them on the radio, put em on the radio. What should have happened subsequently, for the math of a romantic comedy, the reveal that they had had that call should have been like, right? Going to act three.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:24:57] Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:58] It should have been like that was me. That was me. And he’d be like, wait, what? Oh my. That that they had this connection. She tells him immediately. We had a conversation last night. She also she’s giving away all of her power in that moment. This movie wants to be dirty and raunchy, and it’s not. The more it gets, I’m like, oh wait, stop.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:25:24] Please stop.

 

Paul Scheer [00:25:25] The worst ending scene of all time they have sex is like, did you really cum? And she’s like, you’ll never know.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:31] Oh, awful.

 

Paul Scheer [00:25:33] True love?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:34] That’s reprehensible. I’m sorry. The only person that we know for sure makes her cum is a child. I want you to sit with that, Scotland. The only person to successfully make her character come in this.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:25:53] I was so upset about that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:54] We are in. We are back in. I want us on the pod.

 

Paul Scheer [00:25:59] And I will say that that should be a t shirt. A little kid with that vibrating stick in his hand and you go, now I got what you need.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:26:08] I could not believe that they gave that scene to a child. I was like, why isn’t he using it, right? Why would.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:18] By the way, if he had the controller. It would have been so hot. So hot that he’s surprising her. And she didn’t know that’s what they were.

 

Paul Scheer [00:26:26] This is my issue. This is my issue with that scene. And I.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:30] I hope it’s that there was a kid manning the remote because.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:26:33] It’s the only issue there is.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:35] If you’re cool with that. But I’m a different issue. I’m open to it, but I’m not. I don’t know, I think you should be on board for my thing.

 

Paul Scheer [00:26:43] Nope. I got a different issue, kid be damned, the kid doesn’t know anything he thinks it’s a Tamagotchi. So now here’s what I’ll say.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:26:52] But we know.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:54] That kid can read. And that’s got some pretty suggestive material on the on the label.

 

Paul Scheer [00:26:58] All right. All I, my issue with that scene was it felt to me like they were trying to do an homage to, like, when Harry met Sally, like when she does the fake orgasm scene. From my memory of that. I’ve seen that movie within the last two years. That is a a sexy scene. There’s something about it that’s like, you’re like, oh, what I see in that moment, it’s uncomfortable. Yeah, it’s not sexy, it’s sweaty, it’s weird. And she seems powerless. But then all the guys who kind of came in their pants like you, whatever you want, we’ll give it to you. It’s like why she looks completely unhinged.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:27:34] Well, it’s it is forced and it’s, you know, you look at Meg Ryan’s performance and it’s so realized and it’s so perfect and, well, we are forced to witness here. It’s so uncomfortable.

 

Paul Scheer [00:27:48] I think the difference that you’re talking about, though, with Meg Ryan and this is like Meg Ryan is in control of that moment. Like if we’re talking about it from that point of view, like she’s in control.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:59] But it is at Billy Crystal’s expense too.

 

Paul Scheer [00:28:02] Right. And in this she’s not in control and she’s fighting it so hard.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:07] Walk away from the table. Walk away.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:28:11] Go to the bathroom.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:12] And she’s like, she rides the wave the whole time.

 

Paul Scheer [00:28:16] And she’s pitching something that’s so unsexy, like sweeps week commercials. I don’t even know. It’s like, what am I? What am I excited about here? Just like a person going like, well, I saw the commercials that we’ll have here. And this is like.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:34] This is in a family restaurant with corporate and her date, like, there’s so many things. There’s a it’s a hat on a hat on a hat.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:28:43] It’s just so hard because all I could I’m thinking was like, just take your undies off.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:49] Okay? Go on.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:28:50] Just if you’re trying to struggle through. See, and that’s what was was, was very distressing about this scene, which is like, yeah, someone else is doing it to her, but none of it feels real. And also she’s fighting it so much that it’s like, well just take them off, go to the bathroom. Yeah, take them off.

 

Paul Scheer [00:29:09] Well, and then.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:29:10] It’s not like she doesn’t know what it’s coming from.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:13] And I say this.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:29:14] Your underwear. Take it off.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:16] I also think that and maybe I’m just wildly wrong and I’ve never experienced this kind of an orgasm, but I think in this scenario, I may have been able to be like mind over matter. I’m going to be cool about it. You know, I’m not I’m not going to give up or to losing complete control. I’m going to be like, you get a boner in sweatpants, you know, in, in, like, high school. And you’re like, I can’t wear sweatpants anymore.

 

Paul Scheer [00:29:42] But again, like, can I go on the other side of this and say, but what am I, the audience member, supposed to feel? And what am I supposed to feel if I’m an actor at that table? Like, is she turning me on? No. What am I seeing her do? Cum. Okay. Me as the audience is going okay, I’m watching her come against her will. Sexy. At the table, at the table. I’m like, she seems insane. Where does this scene work for anyone besides making her cum? Which she hasn’t cum for 11 months.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:19] After this movie. After this dinner, rather, she should be fired and dumped.

 

Paul Scheer [00:30:25] Or just make her talk about something sexy, like do something that, like, is together. It’s so weird. It’s.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:30:32] It’s very strange.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:32] Go to the bathroom. It would have been less weird for her to be like, I’m so sorry, I’m going to have diarrhea. And just fully cheese in the bathroom. That’s a goddess phrase.

 

Paul Scheer [00:30:48] So I know that Katherine Heigl is a producer on this film, and I feel like she added a lot of stuff, which I do think.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:30:57] And so is her mom.

 

Paul Scheer [00:30:59] Which makes this movie a little complicated because they’re not really, I think every time they give her a floor, they’re also kind of correcting it. But there was one thing that I feel like I watched and I was like, oh, this is a Katherine Heigl thing, and it’s flossing. There’s a lot of flossing. And that’s not fun for me as an audience member or me as a person. I have to do it. Don’t want to see it.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:31:23] I don’t ever want to see someone floss.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:25] And she covets it when she sees when she’s absolutely creeping on Collin from the tree, when she’s peeping on him and she’s like, he’s flossing, drenched. Hey, what?

 

Paul Scheer [00:31:40] She climbs up a tree to get a cat who was up there for about five seconds.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:48] D’Artagnan. No. That, to me, suggests. It suggests there are two dead cats.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:31:59] Oh, wow.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:01] You don’t name one cat after a single musketeer. Those are three cats.

 

Paul Scheer [00:32:08] D’Artagnan was my favorite?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:32:10] Do you think they passed under suspicious circumstances?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:12] I think they swallowed too much floss. Those cats are dead.

 

Paul Scheer [00:32:19] I do want to. Just one of my favorite scenes in the film was when Gerard Butler’s, young nephew interrupts the morning show. He goes, oh, I just came from school. So, wait, so you had this moment in school where you tried to ask out a girl. It didn’t go well. You’re like, Pease. Drove over to the local news affiliate. I gotta wait till he’s off the air. This is like 9:30, 10 a.m. in the morning.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:48] Like this kid left school to come here to be like. Should I say yes to this girl who asked me to the Sadie Hawkins dance? Gerard Butler’s like, are you kidding? You’ve got girls asking you out? That’s what a Sadie Hawkins dance is, my guy. The girls ask the boys.

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:06] Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:33:09] Can we. Oh, just talk about the the hair? Yes. And hair in general as a as a narrative, you know, motif for women in romantic comedies. As soon as I saw her and her hair was slicked back in a bun, I was like, well, the hair is about to tell a story. You know, that hair’s coming down.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:32] Yeah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:32] And then it comes down. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:33:36] It’s that’s what was so fascinating, which is I thought, oh, the hair’s just going to come down out of its bun at a certain point. And when she becomes more relaxed, but it not only came down but it doubled in size. Yeah. It was so wild. And the idea.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:54] Well, he’s like you need longer hair because men want something to grab on and then they do it.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:34:00] I do find that offensive. I was like, she looks great with shorter hair. I love shorter hair.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:03] Looks great. But I think his point is like, you’re all business and you’re. And that’s not what his his caveman mentality is. You know, guys want something to grab. Guys want something.

 

Paul Scheer [00:34:14] But isn’t a ponytail something easy to grab?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:17] It’s I think it’s too business. Too business.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:34:20] The ponytail thing.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:24] Also, if you pulled those extensions during sex, guess what.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:34:27] It’s gonna come out.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:29] I think June, I think we’ve all been there. oh, I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry.

 

Paul Scheer [00:34:35] I know it’s movie magic, but, June, would you ever take out a whole back half of extensions like that?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:34:46] Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:46] Your your Uber pool is here.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:34:50] Her hair? Yes. A lot of extensions are just clipped in as, like, sort of a one piece.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:56] Okay, so that just came out real quick. Okay.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:34:58] Yeah, but it was absolutely psychotic that she did it in front of Colin. Like, this is who I am.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:04] Yes, yes. As if he would be like, Ew! Disgusting!

 

Paul Scheer [00:35:10] JusIt’s such a small transformation. It’s not like she rips off a mask is like, I’m your sister.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:19] Here’s here’s the bigger here’s a bigger question for Colin. When he met her, she had a shoulder length bob. One day later, she has hair to the middle of her back. The guy is a doctor. He should be like, hang on. What’s up with your hair?

 

Paul Scheer [00:35:40] Oh my God.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:42] It’s also like, what I couldn’t figure out is I think there’s a real. And I think it’s part of why I’m shocked. It’s 2009. It feels like it’s the early 2000. There’s a there’s a real I wouldn’t be surprised if this was in fact a script like you said, June, written many years earlier. Because if it’s 2009, why does he have a physical answering machine that is like, hey, it’s Kristy, I’d love to beep. Hey, it’s Nikki if I don’t get your big throbbing boop. Hey, it’s Karen, I’m sopping boop and it’s like a cassette answering machine, but people have cell phones.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:36:19] Because there was a while where people were writing feature movies where they could. The mood, the basic structure of the movies were already there. This this doesn’t make sense. But in many movies it was like, oh, I didn’t get your call, or I missed it, or I wasn’t home yet. And with the advent of cell phones, that device went out the window. So I do feel like there were a number of movies that were just like, we’re not dealing with cell phones yet.

 

Paul Scheer [00:36:41] Yeah. I mean, again, this movie does so many lazy writing things like, but I have a date tonight. Bring them. Like, like this. If we say it fast enough, you won’t clock that this makes no fucking sense. Also, why are they picking her up at her house?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:36:59] Why are they both at the door?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:02] Also why are the Jell-O wrestling girls there? It’s not just that Collins there. Imagine if the movie was just about Colin. What a weird ride he’s on. He’s a doctor. If I found out my doctor was up to this, I’d be like, I’m going to see somebody else. Hey, look, you’re wasting your life.

 

Paul Scheer [00:37:23] Colin thought he could hack it in the big time of Sacramento. That’s what happens. You get brought out on dates, you meet jello girls, and I mean Colin. Literally. I mean, I know.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:34] Colin sucks.

 

Paul Scheer [00:37:35] I hate Colin.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:36] Colin sucks. The montage of them dating is embarrassing. The flowers he sends her are terrible.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:37:43] He’s just so unappealing. It’s like what it does, it doesn’t work. We need more of a James Marsden because it’s just like, oh, he’s so vanilla. There’s no reason to be interested in this man.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:56] Well, it really is. It’s forcing her to be like, do you want to embrace who you think you wanted in what you thought your life was going to be? Or are you going to say, fuck it, I like cock and go with this guy?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:38:07] I guess so, but at a certain point, at a certain point, and I’d love to see these DVD extras, but they do, her and Colin have to talk to each other. I mean, they were spending time together.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:18] They must have shot those scenes. They shot those scenes and then they were like, fuck it, montage.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:38:22] What are they talking about?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:23] Montages. We’ll get somebody to cover a ska version of some old song. It’ll be cool.

 

Paul Scheer [00:38:28] I mean, that’s why I, that’s okay. That’s what I’m saying she has not changed. I mean, she learned her lesson because she hires a rapist instead.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:38] Wow. And how do we find out that he’s a rapist? His first time on air, he admits to dozens of rapes, if not over a hundred rapes.

 

Paul Scheer [00:38:49] By the way, kudos to that casting director, because that guy was perfect. I bought him as a guy who could pull off a lot of rape, be like, oh, he’s nice. He’ll be like come into my house, let me drill into the back of your head. Like he felt scary.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:05] He was creep city.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:39:06] Yeah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:39:07] What was his audition like?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:39:10] Also, the I could not get over and when we saw a little bit of it. But that our big third act set piece was taking place at a balloon festival where it was also like I thought those big balloon festivals happened in Albuquerque.

 

Paul Scheer [00:39:24] They talked about it and actually happens in Temecula.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:27] Yeah, they talked about it earlier in the movie too. There was thinking they seeded it early, but the scene that we saw, and I won’t force us all to watch it again because it’s truly awful, but it would have been so easy for when Gerard Butler comes and jumps into her basket. She’s doing an impromptu. After she kicks the rapist out of that balloon basket, she starts talking about Jerry Butler. He’s he runs over. He jumps in with. It would’ve been so easy for the balloon to just lift off, they instead put a guy in, an operator, in the balloon who then has to be there for all of the scene we just saw. And I was. Beth, will you play it again? Just for a brief moment? We don’t have to listen to.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:08] Scene eight.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:08] But I would love it if we would just watch the man in the yellow shirt sadly drink champagne and be try to be invisible in a major motion picture.

 

Movie Audio [00:40:21] I just told you that I loved you and all you. Herbert psycho. You’re the definition of neurotic.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:26] We’re inside there. Right here is this guy. Right here is this guy just sipping and physical looking away. It’s not a cameraman because they made sure to fix the camera to the balloon. We don’t need a cameraman.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:40] Here’s the other issue with that scene. There’s one moment where they go, they’re on TV. They’re live. Yeah, you’re in the control room. At any point you go and they’re not live anymore. Like.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:40:53] Stop it.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:54] Done. The people yelling they’re live, have every opportunity to stop it from being live.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:41:03] And the crazy part was I was like, oh, I guess maybe for a second, because I thought the same thing as you, Jason. Like, why didn’t they just have it going up and us, like, be able to see this moment where they’re dealing with falling in love with each other and hating each other, but then they’re also dealing with surviving on a balloon that they’ve never piloted. Great scene. And I was like, oh, but they need a they need someone there because they’re actually in a hot air balloon. They’re actually flying.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:28] Who cares?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:41:29] But they’re on a green screen.

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:31] Wait, that’s a green screen. It’s so realistic.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:41:35] So in that case though, like, why not just why not just put them up there on their own?

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:40] They told Gerard Butler is going to look like 300 and he’s like oh good I get it. Green screen. And then he’s like, oh shit. It it’s terrible. This look like my kid’s iMovie.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:49] The one moment in the movie where they were like, well, it wouldn’t make sense for them to go up without a driver. Who cares? None of that. None of the shit you shown us makes sense. We just watched a kid make her cum. You think we’re gonna. You think we’re gonna disagree that. This. I’m out on this movie. There’s not an operator in the balloon basket?

 

Paul Scheer [00:42:09] This movie. I wrote that, like this movie. Like the arc of this movie. If you really want to trace it is it starts with Natasha Bedingfield, and it ends with Flo Rida. And that really is like. That does. That’s all I need to know. Happily ever after question mark? And how do we begin? Once upon a time, I mean that this movie is I don’t know what it’s positing at all, because at the end of the day, what is my takeaway?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:42:41] I know you keep on asking these questions.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:44] Yeah. We don’t have the answers.

 

Paul Scheer [00:42:45] Because he because it’s like it’s it feels to me like a he’s not that into you type of thing where I think women are supposed to leave going like, oh, I get it now. And then they’re supposed to be like, I got it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:58] But then I feel like there are scenes and moments that almost feel like they think they’re doing like Something About Mary, like the blowjob at the baseball game scene, which is a crime that is happening in the stand, where it appears as though she’s like giving him a aggressive blowjob. She’s just cleaning his pants, but it looks as though she’s giving him a blowjob there on the kiss cam.

 

Paul Scheer [00:43:24] But there for a minor league again, like minor league baseball, like, yeah. Can we lower the stakes any more? Let’s put it in a kid’s game.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:33] Like. I mean, why not? That’s. Then she’ll cum.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:43:44] You know it was. He is very watchable.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:47] Oh, he’s more than watchable. He’s absolutely making the movie make sense in a way that in any other hands you would.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:43:57] I will say that there are some ugly truths that he shares, like the scene where he stops her from calling Colin after they’ve met once. I was like, yes, please.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:10] All this stuff when he’s zeroing her, I thought was terrific. When he’s when she’s got the earwig in and they’re at the baseball game and he’s telling her what to say, I thought all that stuff was really funny. And he’s being very charming.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:44:22] I will say. And I haven’t been single in a while, but a very. And I’ll share this hot tip for any of my single ladies, which is if there is a guy that you’re waiting, you’re waiting for him to text you back and you’re in that moment, that time period, which is very difficult. You text him, but call him the wrong name or say something like, actually.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:45] This is like a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:44:47] This is what you do. You text him and say, I’ll see you. I’ll see you around 7:30.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:53] Right.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:44:57] So and then he will write back because he has to.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:00] That for me?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:01] Yeah. It’s 7:30. Is it for me when you say very little information. So sorry. I thought this was someone else. Hope you’re doing okay.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:08] Sorry. That was for Derek Jeter.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:12] And it just gets them thinking, you know, they’re.

 

Paul Scheer [00:45:15] Like, what is she doing?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:17] There is some Ugly truth there that I was I was like, yeah.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:19] June it has been, it has been too long since you’ve been single.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:22] No, that shit works. My friend has a phrase and I think this is so, so helpful. And again, I haven’t been single for a long time. I was keeping this in my back pocket.

 

Paul Scheer [00:45:33] Wow.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:34] Should I ever need it.

 

Paul Scheer [00:45:35] The last time June was single, people were T9 texting, which meant that you had to type each letter.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:41] Like tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:44] But she always said, which is what one of The Ugly Truths he shares. Be a lighthouse, be a lighthouse.

 

Paul Scheer [00:45:51] What does that mean?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:51]  It basically means.

 

Paul Scheer [00:45:55] It’s a great phrase.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:59] When you are waiting for a guy to text you back or call you. You picture yourself as a lighthouse and you’re just shining your light. You’re shining. Your light is shining.

 

Paul Scheer [00:46:14] And it has worked?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:14] I need you to know who this friend is because this person is giving you terrible information.

 

Paul Scheer [00:46:23] A bunch of married women giving out single advice.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:46:27] And then she said.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:29] Oh, you need to be a lighthouse.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:46:33] I totally understand what that means. Be a lighthouse. Like you don’t do anything else but shine your light. And then the other thing is, once it’s about 8;30, 9:00 at night and you’re still waiting for your text, and you’re still waiting for that, whatever that connection, that’s when things are. That’s when things are the most dangerous. That’s when you pull out a bottle of NyQuil.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:56] Wait, what?

 

Paul Scheer [00:47:00] I knew this was coming.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:02] And you record a chopped and screwed album? What’s going on here?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:47:06] You literally put yourself out.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:08]  Oh, I see, I see. You have to shut it off so you don’t do any damage.

 

Paul Scheer [00:47:12] Thankfully, now there are apps that do that for you.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:16] You know what? People don’t use those apps. People are still out here saying nuts stuff. Yeah.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:47:21] Yeah. Late night.

 

Paul Scheer [00:47:21] All right. Who has a question about, this film that. Okay, here we go. You do? Okay, great. Hi. What’s your name?

 

Audience Member [00:47:27] Kathleen.

 

Paul Scheer [00:47:28] And your question?

 

Audience Member [00:47:29] We think June will be offended by this one, but, what did we all think about the fact that the present that Gerard Butler gave was already opened?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:47:38] Oh my God.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:39] Yes, yes, yes.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:47:42] I cannot believe we didn’t talk about this.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:43] Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:45] Clearly used. Clearly used. I wrote it down, too. Opened and used. What?She absolutely should get tested.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:47:58] Not only was it. Okay, so I had so many issues with that box because.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:04] In more ways than one.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:48:06] It also looked so old.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:09] More ways than one.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:48:12] And it was open. You know, it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:15] More ways than one. Rule of threes. I’m done.

 

Paul Scheer [00:48:20] If he gave it a good washing, it’s probably fine, right?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:26] That was wild that it was a it was an open box of vibrating underwear. That was chilling.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:48:35] That she put on.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:37] And by the way, if she had put that on with that dress, it would have been all bunched up in. You would have seen it all bunched. She didn’t have a visible panty line at all. That thing has lots of wiring.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:48:51] And that’s a tech. That was so disgusting.

 

Paul Scheer [00:48:55] Imagine the technology, the vibrating technology, at a time when characters are also using cassette answering machines. This is not current.

 

Paul Scheer [00:49:05] She might have been hurt. You did. That’s it. That’s a torture device. And that’s an S&M device. Maybe it’s in 50 Shades of gray. All right, so, your name?

 

Audience Member [00:49:14] Hi. My name’s Gillian. At the beginning of the movie, when she’s at the news station ish and she’s making small talk with her colleagues. Why does she say that her colleague has balls the size of Volkswagens?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:25] Well, there is so much an appropriate stuff said in the workplace in this movie. So much inappropriate stuff said in the workplace. When she enters the job, doesn’t someone walk by walking by say, you look, you look hot today or you look beautiful today? Somebody said something that it’s so crazy.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:49:44] Yes. And then her response is like, oh, it’s one of those days, isn’t it?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:48] One of those days where I get immediately complimented upon entering the workplace.

 

Paul Scheer [00:49:53] She also said something that I thought was, again, this idea that this movie doesn’t know exactly what it’s trying to do. When I think this is the writer, not Katherine Heigl’s character saying this, but Katherine Heigl says to Gerard Butler, she’s like, oh, and your whole audience just jerks off to you. And I was like, no, I don’t think that that’s it’s a pretty I don’t think that that’s what’s happening there. I don’t I don’t think his male audience jerking off to him talking, but it felt like she said it so intently. That was like, yeah. And it’s like, yeah. Oh.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:50:30] You kept on asking Paul like, what’s her journey? What is her narrative throughout the movie and what does she learn? I think the movie is trying to tell us that she is having a sexual awakening.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:40] I think you’re right.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:50:41] She hasn’t masturbated.  She’s not in touch with her body. I think that’s what we’re supposed to believe. And so I.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:48] She’s kind of leaving behind her childlike ideas about the Prince Charming, perfect man, and is willing to enter the real world and pursue what she wants as a grown woman. Maybe that’s The Ugly Truth. All right, I have a question over here.

 

Audience Member [00:51:04] Hi, I’m Gary, and near the beginning of the film, her cat, D’Artagnan, presses the remote to change the channel on the television. That seems like foreshadowing that when she has the vibrating pants, that the cat is going to make it orgasm. And does that make a better movie?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:51:22] Yes. The answer is yes, if the cat was doing it.

 

Paul Scheer [00:51:28] Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:29] Yes. If hey kept cutting back to her apartment and the cat being like, boom! Onto the thing. And she’s like, oh. And nobody knows what’s happening but us, the audience. Oh, boy, that would be funny because that’s pussy and pussy.

 

Paul Scheer [00:51:45] All right, I got a question back here. Go for it. No, I hold the mic. I hold the mic.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:50] Paul, be careful. You shouldn’t have to tell someone more than once.

 

Paul Scheer [00:51:57]  I’ll hold the mic. All right, here we go. What do we got?

 

Audience Member [00:52:00] Just wandered and, that kind of date scene that Katherine Heigl had. She talks about the height of the guy that she’s on a date with. Katherine Heigl is five foot eight and a half. But the person that she’s on a date with, as I allegedly five nine, but as we’ve discussed, that is. Oh, well, that’s that five five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So are we to believe in this movie that Katherine Heigl is actually, like, six foot two?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:33] I would love it if she was like I was in the WNBA. I would love it if she dunked at one point. Yeah, that would be amazing.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:52:42] This why I leave this part in. I’ve always had such a soft spot for Katherine Heigl because she is a tall woman, and tall women are often not represented on film and TV. I know that’s not something that everybody knows, but I’m five nine and I’m very, very tall and in the film and TV industry. So when I see another tall woman, I have to tip my hat to her to her.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:05] The men in our industry also usually quite short.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:53:09] Very tiny, which is why it’s hard.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:11] I said short, you said very tiny.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:53:15] They’re barely there.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:18] You said very tiny while looking right at me.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:53:20] Very tiny.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:22] Chill right to my bone.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:53:24] And it has been very hard to work as a tall woman, because a lot of the men and I won’t name any names right now.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:32] Please don’t say me. Please don’t say me. Please don’t say me.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:53:34] They don’t want to have like, love scenes and have you play their love interest. If you’re, if you’re taller than them. So I do appreciate that about Katherine Heigl. That she’s five eight.

 

Paul Scheer [00:53:47] I’m in the balcony.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:49] Give it up in the balcony.

 

Paul Scheer [00:53:52] Let me hear you, balcony monster.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:53:55] Be careful.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:58] Oh, these Glaswegian balcony monsters.

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:01] All right, I’m in the balcony. Here we go. Yes, I’m going to lean into you if you lean towards me. Here we go.

 

Audience Member [00:54:07] Hi, I’m Simon.

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:08] Hi, Simon. What’s your question?

 

Audience Member [00:54:10] So if this movie two maids nowadays, they would reverse the roles. And have the guy as the uptight, control freak kind of inexperience. And that of the girl is the foulmouthed kind of sex obsessed, crude person. So my question kind of in two parts. Who would you cast and the newer version in those roles, and how would you have the restaurant scene go in that version?

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:34] Wow. Now I will say I didn’t want to embarrass him, but I will say I know that he is the inventor of an electric butt plug, a remote control, but like, I think he is trying to get us to talk about his brand new product.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:54:49] But oh by the way, there were movies that were made after this that were like supposed to be the reverse. There was a backlash against this, like, type A woman, and those are the movies that came out in like 2012, 2010, No Strings Attached. There was another one that were very.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:08] Friends with Benefits.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:55:08] Friends with benefits that were like, women don’t want to be tied down, they just want to fuck.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:15] Women fuck too.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:55:15] There was a whole series of them. And so they did. But they also didn’t work. I mean, here’s the thing, right? Like, I and and there’s so many references in romcoms to like the elusive female orgasm. And it is a trope that thankfully, I think is being put to bed. The illusion that women fake it. Yes, because it’s so tired and it’s so sort of it reinforces the idea that women’s like real sexual responses are too much of a mystery for us to even believe.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:49] Well, when I was, when I was a kid, there was still the narrative inside of TV and film. That is, does the clitoris exist? And if so, prove it.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:56:01] Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:02] And that’s truly wild to consider as this is a piece of biological certainty.

 

Paul Scheer [00:56:10] And no one and no one talks about the real problem, which is are men faking it?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:15] Yeah. Paul, you said something earlier, which is that that man is the has a butt plug like thing. Do you think the underwear in the movie was a butt plug?

 

Paul Scheer [00:56:24] Oh, no. He was  saying how would that scene play out with the roles reversed? If you need to shock him? I mean, I guess you could put like, robot vagina on him, but I think a butt plug scene would be funnier.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:34] Yeah. Some sort of pocket pussy situation.

 

Paul Scheer [00:56:36] Yeah. Your your name, sir. Your question.

 

Audience Member [00:56:41] Hi there. My name is Chris. My question is this. I’m not.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:45] I like that rhyme. I mean, come on, tell me that I know to you that sounds normal, but boy, that sounds great. Say it again.

 

Audience Member [00:56:55] My name is Chris. My question is this.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:01] Just lovely.

 

Audience Member [00:57:03] I’m not an actor, and I’m fully aware that I’m asking this to someone who has actually appeared on screen with Jane Fonda. Fantastic. So my question is this do you think it was Katherine Heigl or the director that decided for every scene, she has to either be Sheldon Cooper or Zooey Deschanel because she just jumps from one extreme to another? She’s not completely type B, or she is just horny as fuck.

 

Paul Scheer [00:57:29] Good question. I mean, look, Chris, when he asked this question, he knows what he’s going to ask. Yeah, I mean, she did she that that’s the problem that I have with this movie is she’s always correcting. It’s like, well, I don’t want to be that uptight. So then she undercuts it and then she then she’s battling with herself. And that’s what I think is confusing about this movie, because even the makeover I’m like, honestly, I don’t see that much of a difference.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:52] Well, when she has the moment with, Colin, when she has the moment finally where she’s like, what are you what is it that you like about me? And she’s like, all of those things. That’s not who I am. Like, I’m actually the woman that you’re describing as someone you’re not interested in, right? And that she’s like, I’ve been lying to you the whole time. I’ve been pretending to be this other person. But really, I feel like what the movie has been showing us is that she is finding a complexity of who she is leaving behind. Perhaps this idea of who she is and engaging in behavior that is out of her comfort zone, but is being rewarded for it. And my question is, does she not like the person that she’s becoming? Is she unhappy with the choices that she’s made?

 

Paul Scheer [00:58:33] I also would argue that that moment with with Colin, when she goes, I’m this person, we’re supposed to be like, is that triumphant? You’ve lied to this man for six months and you’re like, ha, fuck you, you shallow prick. It’s like, well, wait, he’s not. He didn’t do anything wrong.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:52] Agree. Agree.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:58:54] Well, then she says that he’s great and he’s. Listen, I’m not worried about Colin, I can’t. By the way, I can’t take him on.

 

Paul Scheer [00:59:02] A deleted scene. The movie was supposed to end with them getting married.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:59:08] Her and Colin?

 

Paul Scheer [00:59:09] No no no no. Gerard Butler and Katherine Heigl get married. And at the wedding, you pull out to reveal that Colin is now dating.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:18] Joy?

 

Paul Scheer [00:59:20] Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:20] Oh, her assistant.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:59:22] Joy.

 

Paul Scheer [00:59:24] Oh, whoa whoa, whoa. We got a shocking reveal here. Hold on. What’s your name?

 

Audience Member [00:59:29] My name is MC.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:30] Wait, what is it?

 

Audience Member [00:59:31] Second viewing of this film, I became deeply invested in Joy’s journey, and I have now posited that the reason she can’t date, and the reason her breasts have not been touched in a very long time, is because she is, in fact, a figment of Katherine Heigl’s imagination. Because she never has a scene with anyone except Katherine Heigl where they have any meaningful conversation.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:52] That’s really good.

 

Audience Member [00:59:53] And she’s far too excited about what happens in the hot air balloon.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:56] That would make this movie so much, so much more interesting if if there were in fact, imagine if if essentially Katherine Heigl character was having a mental collapse.

 

Paul Scheer [01:00:10] I don’t know how I can get top of that, but I think we can try here. What’s your name?

 

Audience Member [01:00:13] Oh, don’t put that much pressure on me. My name is Alisha. And I would like to say first, as someone who was born in Sacramento, you are 100% correct.

 

Paul Scheer [01:00:20] Thank you, Alicia.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:25] Sac Town in the house. What? Why are you here?

 

Audience Member [01:00:29] I’m from Sacramento. And my question is, is there anything in this film besides Mike’s character being a terrible role model to a small child, like three times, that makes him less of a douchebag?

 

Paul Scheer [01:00:50] Good question.

 

Audience Member [01:00:50] Like, why are we supposed to like him?

 

June Diane Raphael [01:00:53] Oh God, that’s a really good question.

 

Paul Scheer [01:00:56] This gentleman has it. Well, listen, this is why.

 

Audience Member [01:01:01] His love of tap water.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:01:03] Yes. Yes. Yes. That is. That the movie turns you. Katherine Heigl legitimately falls in love when he says tapwater. It’s all the same, isn’t it? She’s like, oh my God, it’s him. It’s been him the whole time because we agree on tap water.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:01:31] To answer your question about why why we want her to end up with him.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:01:38] Oh, I want to be clear. I’m not rooting for them at all.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:01:42] That’s true.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:01:43] I’m not rooting for them. I’m not shipping them. I’m not on board because I don’t want him to be saddled with her. Is that mean? Leave that in?

 

June Diane Raphael [01:01:54] No, I feel the same.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:01:55] Leave that in question, ?

 

June Diane Raphael [01:01:57] I feel the same. I want more for him.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:02:00] Yes. Give it. Let him take joy. She seems like a fucking blast.

 

Paul Scheer [01:02:06] Oh, yeah. Okay. What’s your question? Who has a better one. What do you think? All right, you got right here.

 

Audience Member [01:02:10] Hi. My name’s Chrissy. My friend Malcolm here actually bought the DVD for us to watch, which meant we got to watch the special features. And in the special features, there’s a making-of short where Katherine Heigl talks about the underwear scene as her discovery of physical comedy, they had to shoot this 37 times, 37 times, they shot that scene in the restaurant with that small boy.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:02:36] What?

 

Audience Member [01:02:37] She said, her body hurt all over.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:02:40] Why?

 

Paul Scheer [01:02:41] 37 times.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:02:43] What do you mean?

 

June Diane Raphael [01:02:45] That makes me ngrier? I, I will just say this and and actually leave this part in. Leave this part in like please leave the comedy to comedians. Please. Like, not everybody can do it, and that’s okay.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:03:01] And also, please leave the cumming to people who know how to do it.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:03:09] Please.

 

Paul Scheer [01:03:10] Like that little boy like that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:03:16] This movie has more. I mean, I know it. Can you get house lights again? I’m so sorry. Is that easy? I’d like a show of hands. How many people in this room have genuinely, prior to having a stressful, anxiety producing, nerve wracking conversation, practice what they’re going to say out loud when other people are around because both of them do it. He does it in the hotel. She does it in the cab. She’s like, oh, hello, penis face, I’m blah blah blah blah. And the guy’s like, excuse me? And she’s like, oh, nothing. I’m just practicing. Like, there’s so much like practicing of what people are gonna say that I was like, nobody does this. Does anybody do that? You do it?

 

Audience Member [01:03:58] I’m on the spectrum.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:04:00] Oh, you’re on the spectrum. Okay, okay. Well. No, no.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:04:05] That’s a great answer.

 

Paul Scheer [01:04:06] Great answer.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:04:08] Great answer. Fair enough.

 

Paul Scheer [01:04:10] Amazing. Can’t beat that. And here’s what I’ll say. Obviously we have an opinion about this movie, but now it’s time for second opinion.

 

Audience Member [01:04:25] Oh, hi. My name is Andy. When you watch this. Well, I know you’re gonna call. You’re gonna kill this film a red flag piece of crap. But if you listen, there are lessons for us all. Like war is just as good when taken from the top. Well, I would give this film five stars and I would give it five stars more. Heigl fixes years of sexist shit by calling Jerry B a whore. It’s the cat’s fault. It’s the cat’s fault. Sacramento got her and I was getting laid. Wants her bean flicked by a child. You’ll never know. But thank God that this film got made.

 

Paul Scheer [01:05:12] Yes, yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:05:14] Incredible. I mean, great work.

 

Paul Scheer [01:05:19] There are 5344 total reviews of The Ugly Truth. 81% are five stars. Two, 2% are one starts. Two. I’ve never seen it that low. These reviews. Buckle up, people, because they are wild. See Jack reviewed this on my birthday in 2019 and writes “Gerard Butler does comedy brilliantly lighthearted and cathartic. Even my second time seeing it.” That’s the title. I am cutting into the second paragraph of his review by saying this. “I’ve seen this movie when it was released and paid to stream it tonight. I recalled it being a light comedy that tells it in many ways what men think about relationships, and many of their thoughts and conclusions are due to their pain and suffering in relationships that didn’t work. There are several other comedies that play this theme in a comical fashion. Hitch. What Women Really Want and Someone Like You, to name a few. Sometimes movies are meant to be light and an escape and not trying to win an Oscar or go beyond being entertaining. I’ve paid to see this twice and I pay to see it again. This was a great cozy night at home when it’s outside. Currently minus six degrees with a -24 wind chill. Brrrrr. It made for a relaxing evening. Five stars.”

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:07:15] It made for. The ending. It made for a relaxing evening. That’s really weird.

 

Paul Scheer [01:07:21] This one, our final one from Carlos Avila, our queen in 2010, writes “I hate romantic comedy. I always thought this kind of movie was made for fools, so I avoided this gender of movies. Nevertheless.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:07:41] That’s a kind of amazing typo. Because it works, somehow.

 

Paul Scheer [01:07:48] It does. “Nevertheless, when I saw the previews of this movie, I thought, cool. Gerard Butler saying things that girls do not like. I must see this movie. Even if this movie is not a masterpiece in movie history. I really enjoy it. I had a good time here in Latin America, where new generations reject so strongly the macho culture. It was so funny to me to see a couple of young ladies leave the movie theater, because they started to feel sick about the funny things Gerard Butler’s character says at the beginning of the movie. If you want to laugh a little, you must watch this movie. I bet you’ll really enjoy it. The only romantic comedy I enjoy. Five stars.” Now, occasionally we do first opinions and first opinions. There’s only 2%. I wanted to look there and this one was written in 2015. “Very disappointed. Since seeing Phantom of the opera. I was enthralled with Gerard Butler. But I wish I hadn’t watched this movie because now I think less of him as an actor and a person because he accepted this role, plain and simple. It was foul. The entire movie is riddled with sexual overtones, undertones, direct references to parts of the female and male anatomies in a disgusting and distasteful manner. A scene involving. Now the next word they spell out, they put a space between every letter. Masturbation. I will never understand why Hollywood is so fascinated with again space between all the letters, sex, and find every opportunity to include this subject matter and their storylines, when frankly, it’s about as interesting as watching a scene with someone defecating in the toilet with all their grunts and groans.”

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:01] What? What? Is this person single? Asking for a friend?

 

Paul Scheer [01:10:11] “If you like something just a little better than soft porn. Watch this movie. But if any of you feel like me and take the risk. Take a shower after. One star.”

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:28] Wow. What’s crazy is that I’m just now finding out Gerard Butler was in Phantom of the opera.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:10:36] Me too. I had no idea.

 

[01:10:38] Does he sing?

 

[01:10:38] With Emmi Ross, does he play Phantom?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:43] Like. Wow.

 

Paul Scheer [01:10:44] Here’s one thing I want to tell you to prepare for this role. Gerard Butler sat in on the Adam Corolla show for days to prepare for this character.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:10:56] I love it.

 

Paul Scheer [01:10:56] This is Gerard Butler doing Adam Corolla and.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:11:02] Adam Corolla, who is essentially doing 1990s Howard Stern.

 

Paul Scheer [01:11:08] And and well, one thing I’ll say here, while this film came in third in the United States the day it came out. In Great Britain, Ireland and Scotland, the film topped the box office.

 

Paul Scheer [01:11:21] That’s you. This. This is your fault.

 

Paul Scheer [01:11:25] It even beat out G.I. Joe Rise of the Cobra by making 1.9 million pounds. All right, so we, would you recommend this movie?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:11:35] Absolutely.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:11:38] Yeah. And I just want to see this, like. Oh, God, it’s so hard because it’s like, it doesn’t. Here’s what doesn’t make a lick of sense. It’s like, she’s not she’s not a career gal. You know, you can’t be a woman who’s like, just focused as again, they would have us believe from romantic comedies that women were just focused on their careers and nothing else. But it’s like, but she’s working in Sacramento and has no plans to leave.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:12:07] Doesn’t want to leave. Doesn’t want to when she when he says, how come some New York station hasn’t snapped you up? She’s like, I wouldn’t want that.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:12:16] Why would I go?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:12:17] She she is not a dreamer. She doesn’t have aspirations. Here’s what I’ll say. To answer your question. I absolutely say watch this movie for the podcast. But this is a failure of a movie on every level.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:12:29] Except one. Except one.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:12:31] Except one. Yeah.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:12:33] And that’s Jerry Butler, I will say, like I do. I did listen in the kind of movies we watch. I was so thrilled to watch this. We’re watching other movies that are coming up, and I just by seeing them in my downloads section of my iTunes, I was so upset.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:12:52] How glad are you, you didn’t get Merlin The Return?

 

June Diane Raphael [01:12:55] That’s what I’m saying. So I was thrilled I was, if you were to watch it.

 

Paul Scheer [01:13:01] Where Rupert Grinpert.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:13:04] Rupert Grinpert? Change his name. Make him change his name to Rupert Grinpert,

 

Paul Scheer [01:13:10] Where Rupert Grint farts.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:13:14] So, yes, I loved it, I loved it, I enjoyed it, and I, I did enjoy him.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:13:19] And I will say the reason I believe the reason we enjoyed it was exclusively because of him. Because as is the case for so many other Gerard Butler movies Den of Thieves, Plane, Kandahar, Geostorm these are he is GEOSTORM. He’s putting these movies on his broad, meaty shoulders, and he’s taking us along for the ride.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:13:47] And I’m interested in when he’s walking away and he’s looking at her and he’s. You realize he’s starting to fall in love with her. I am, despite all, I am invested and I care.

 

Paul Scheer [01:13:59] More Gerard Butler romcoms is what I say and I will also say this. This character went on to become his character in Den of Thieves.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:14:08] I would love that if that was the case.

 

Paul Scheer [01:14:10] I once fell in love with a fucking news producer.

 

[01:14:13] Now I’m robbing banks.

 

Paul Scheer [01:14:16] He breaks. No, he brings down people robbing.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:14:18] You’re right. He’s right. He’s in the sheriff’s.

 

Paul Scheer [01:14:20] Alright. We’ve never done this before. And I think I have a new little moment of the show here. We know that you all have watched it. Would you recommend to the audience at home that they should watch it? Waited your turn. All right. Should they watch it? Yes. Should they watch it? No (Wins). All right, there we go.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:14:42] I’m going to go out on a limb and say, it sounds like you guys didn’t like the movie.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:14:46] It also sound like everybody responded to both.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:14:49] Yeah. I think the audience just is excited to have a voice so they can listen later and be like, that’s me. That’s me yelling.

 

Paul Scheer [01:15:00] Scotland, thank you so much for coming out on Easter Sunday. Like we had to add more seats after we initially sold out. We can’t. We are thrilled to be here. Thank you so much.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:15:11] Christ has risen.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:15:14] He is risen!

 

Paul Scheer [01:15:16] Give it up for June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:15:19] Thank you!

 

Paul Scheer [01:15:20] I am Paul Scheer. Thank you, thank you, thank you. What a great night. Good night!

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:15:25] Eat shit, Scotland!

 

Paul Scheer [01:15:30] That’s a wrap on our first ever show in Scotland. Thank you so much to everyone who came out to see us live. The staff at the O2 Academy and our tour manager Beth Thomas and our recording engineer, Matt Rice. Okay, time to talk t shirts. We actually created two t shirts for this episode. Gerard Butler yelling Fuck London and Rupert Grinpert. You can buy these shirts. I love my Rupert shirt. It’s truly the best. I got his a baseball shirt. It rules. You can buy these shirts and every other shirt we’ve ever made at teepublic.com/stores/HDTGM, and my book is coming out in just a few days. 5/21 is the date, but if you preorder it and go to my website, you can log in to an exclusive VIP section. All you have to do is show your proof of receipt and you’ll get videos and pictures and so much stuff. I appreciate you all supporting the book. It’s been overwhelming. The reviews have really, been blowing me away. I got three star reviews in Kirkus and Library Journal and, and it said, it’s been awesome and I hope you really like the book. The audiobook is super fun, has bonuses from How Did This Get Made and a bunch of other stuff. I’m excited and nervous and I would love to have you see me on my book tour. If you bought your book, you can just come to one of the shows and I’ll sign it. You don’t need to buy a book there. You can buy an $11 ticket to go see me and the editor of The New Yorker, David Remnick, in Brooklyn on 5/21. Or you can maybe, come see me in San Francisco in Quarta madre Madrea, Quarta Madrea with Adam Savage, the original Mythbuster. That’s a free show. That’s totally free. And there’s a bunch of sold out ones. Just go to my website, you can see what’s available. And if you can’t make it to any of my book tour, you can go to the virtual live signing. Jason Mantzoukas will pop up in there. So will Rob Hubel. And that means that it’s a virtual live signing. It’s just like a regular live signing. I’m going to sign a book. You’re going to get that book sent to you, you’re going to get to ask questions. And for ten lucky people, I will make personalized video messages about whatever you want. But wherever you live in the world, I’m going to get a book to you through that virtual live signing. It’s, just, you know, called JoyfulRecollections.com. I believe that’s where you can go there or just go to my website once again. And it’s cheap. It’s not expensive. I’ve tried very hard to keep all these costs down. And I appreciate you coming out. And by the way, check out me and Pally. We’re going to be in Chicago together. Me and Adam Pally. Just having fun doing a book show. It’s gonna be a, blast. Just check out my website. It’s all there. And How Did This Get Made will be at the Nantucket Film Festival on 6/20. There’s still a handful of seats left for our Seattle Dinosaur show. It’s standing room only. I’m sorry, but, again, my website has it all. As always, if you have a correction or omission from this episode, leave me a voicemail at 619-PAUL-ASK or write a comment on our discord at discord.gg/HDTGM and then make sure you tune in next week to our Last Looks follow up episode on The Ugly Truth to hear me respond to all your messages, announce our next movie, and chat with Jason about all sorts of fun stuff. And last but not least, I got to thank our entire team who this show couldn’t be done without. I’m talking about our producers, Scott Sonne, Molly Reynolds, and our movie picking producer Avril Halley, our engineers, Casey Holfford and our associate producer, Jess Cisneros. That’s all I got, people. We’ll see you next week. Until then, bye for now.