EP. 354.5 — Last Looks: Troll 2

[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Broccoli freckles, Seth ain’t old and the truth about Jack Frost from the person who wrote it. That’s right. All this and more on today’s episode of How Did This Get Made Last Looks. Hit the theme.

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[00:01:09] Paul Scheer: Hello, all you trolls posing as goblins, Sheriff Gene Freak, take a seat cause Sheriff Tall John Scheer is here to welcome you to How Did This Get Made Last Looks where you, the listener get to voice your issues, and there are many on Troll 2 a movie that discord user Rocket Wesker, love Rocket thinks could have been called.

[00:01:34] “Are you there, grandpa? It’s me, Joshua”

[00:01:40] Of all, of all the things that we could have picked as a tagline, that might be my favorite one. Um, thank you Rocket for that alt title. And remember if you have an alt movie title or a tagline submit it to us on our discord, we may just read it out loud on the show and you’ll get a genuine laugh from me because that’s the first time I’m seeing it. Coming up on today’s show,

[00:02:03] we’re going to talk about troll too. Of course, we’re going to have a deleted scene from our Troll 2 virtual live show that has nothing to do with Troll 2 but rather. another, How Did This Get Made classic, I’m talking about Jack Frost, get ready for the truth about Jack Frost that we never knew. But I’m going to save that for later.

[00:02:28] Plus Jason will stop by to chat with me about all the movies and TV and books. And we’re watching, and we haven’t talked about that in a long time. So get out a pen, get a notebook because Jason and I are going to lay down some really fun stuff for you. Plus I’m going to reveal the movie for next week’s episode.

[00:02:47] Of course, you know that. Course you do. I’m telling you, nonetheless, this is what we call teasing it out. We’re teasing out this episode. Um, also people, How Did This Get Made is going to be in Philadelphia at the Miller theater on November 16th. Tickets are on sale. Now, Jason, myself, Nicole Byer, Rob Hubel, and so many more are going to be

[00:03:15] performing improv for you in Boston, Brooklyn, and DC. Now the Brooklyn shows are sold out, but there are plenty of tickets in DC and Boston, you can get your tickets for us doing improv with Dinosaur. Uh, if you go to hdtgm. com. These shows are super, super fun. And, um, I think you’re going to have a good time.

[00:03:36] So come on out, see Jason, myself, uh, Nicole Byer, Rob Hubel, Owen Burke, Chad Carter, and so many more. Uh, we bring a big show on the road. It is not financially responsible in any respect, but, even more reason to come more bang for your buck. I think you’re getting like 10 people on stage. Carl Tart’s going to be there.

[00:03:55] Oh my gosh. So many good people, Lisa Gilroy. Oh, I’m remembering them all. Um, also people, my book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma, uh, is out and I am blown away. I just checked out, uh, the download numbers for the audio book. Thank you. Wow. As of last week, we kind of hit a max point more than, uh, in the last two months.

[00:04:16] And if you’ve been listening, if you’ve been reading, keep on reviewing it, uh, the good reads and the, uh, and the Amazon reviews, they actually really, really help and just keep on spreading the word. So. Let’s get on with the show. Last week, we talked at length about Troll 2, a movie that many people considered the, the best worst movie ever made.

[00:04:39] It was our first time. For many of you, it was not your first time. And you came at us with some serious corrections and omissions. So let’s get into it right now. John Cohen hit the theme.

[00:04:57] Music: Corrections and Omissions. Corrections and Omissions. If you wanna help us out, you gotta tell us what we’re missing.

[00:05:09] Paul Scheer: All right. We’re going right to the phone. Brad from Nashville. What do you got?

[00:05:13] Listener: Hey, Paul, I wanted to mention one thing that, uh, y’all didn’t talk about. Uh, there’s a really weird scene where the boys are in the RV and they’re watching television and there’s like a monkey, a really crappy monkey suit. And, uh, the monkey grabs a golden egg and then rockets up into the air.

[00:05:38] Me and some friends who have a bad movie group watched this, like, ten years ago, and did some research, and found online that, that is from a movie called Grunt, which is a 1983 Italian film, uh, probably by the same production company, about a bunch of cavemen who find a golden egg, and they run around and push each other and grunt for about an hour and a half.

[00:06:07] And then suddenly they all burst out into a full musical number at the very end of the film. So it’s like an hour and a half of just shoving and grunting for this one note joke. Also, uh, the, uh, you didn’t really touch on the soundtrack, and it’s a fuckin banger. And I just want to suggest working out to the opening theme of Troll 2.

[00:06:32] Because Uh, it’s really inspiring and you run faster when you imagine that you’re being chased by some trolls. Thanks. Keep up the good work guys. And, uh, I’ll talk to you later.

[00:06:45] Paul Scheer: Okay. First of all, uh, that means that I’m gonna have to replace my normal Frank Stallone workout or my, uh, PS Adora song from, uh, the rock aliens movie.

[00:06:57] Cause those are my workout songs now. All right. I got a new one, the Troll 2 opener. And you know what you said pretend like I’m running from trolls. I think I should be pretending that I’m running from goblins to keep it real. But also, holy shit, that movie grunt from 1983. I looked it up on IMDb and wow.

[00:07:17] Wow. I mean, we would never do it on the show, but I mean, if you think about it, that kind of is the opening of 2001 as well, right? I mean, without the musical part of it. So maybe this is just like an elevated art movie and you just don’t fucking get it because you don’t speak Italian, Brad. Well, no, I can’t wait.

[00:07:38] I need to go on a deeper dive of Grunt. By the way, it’s grunt from 1983. There is also another grunt, which I have found out, uh, which is from 1985 called the wrestling movie Grunt, the wrestling movie. I mean, two, two great choices. Uh, grunt is a perfect title. Uh, all right. Next up, Vicki from Winnipeg, Canada.

[00:08:02] Listener (2): Hey Paul, uh, I just wanted to come to your defense on Troll 2. You were talking about freckles. Kind of this offshoot conversation, and you had mentioned broccoli freckles, and everyone was thinking, why would you bring that up? Where did that come from? But that actually is a TikTok trend. Um, people will dip a, a floret of broccoli Into bronzers or an eyeshadow and use it as a stamp on their face to get a freckled look.

[00:08:31] ’cause when you think of a broccoli, a piece of broccoli, it’s got the little dots on it, so it makes a freckle pattern. So just wanted to come to your defense on that. Broccoli freckles are a real thing. Love the show. Loved your book. Keep up the good work.

[00:08:46] Paul Scheer: Thank you, Vicki. This is the kind of validation I need.

[00:08:51] I’m up on the TikTok. I get it. I understand what’s going on. Jason and June, they don’t get it. June’s following hospice workers. Jason doesn’t even have social media. I know about the broccoli freckles. I appreciate you coming to my defense, Vicki. Alright, next up. Sarah from Bridgeport, Connecticut.

[00:09:11] Listener: Um, I have a PhD in anthropology and I would like to shed some light on the Jessica St. Clair high levels of Neanderthal DNA.

[00:09:21] She has no need to worry. Um, humans of European descent have some percentage of neanderthal DNA that suggests that humans in neanderthals definitely got it on about 40, 000 years ago. Um, Neanderthals have since become extinct, but their DNA does still live on in our beloved Jessica St. Claire. Thanks so much.

[00:09:48] Paul Scheer: Sarah. Look, I’m no genealogist.

[00:09:51] I’ve said that a million times in this show. I mean, I practically say it every show, but I’m going to say you’re wrong. I think Jess is straight up cave person. It seems too odd. That’s so high. Too high. Normal levels. Sure. But she has high levels. We have to be watching her because I think Jess might be a cave person in disguise.

[00:10:17] Look, that’s his way. I feel anyway, I don’t want to go out there and start accusing people of being, uh, you know, cave people, but you know, if, if the label fits, wear it. Anyway, let’s go to the discord. Mark G. Oh, he’s got a theory here. A different theory about Jessica Sinclair’s DNA. Well, that’s what I like to hear.

[00:10:40] Mark G and I are thinking a little bit out of the box from our friend, Sarah. What do you got, Mark G? Okay, well, Mark G says, “If Jess has more Neanderthal in her lineage than the average person, does that explain why she’s so against trash can fires? Because something deep, deep down in her genes, is still afraid of fire.”

[00:11:03] Mark G you hit the nail right on the head. Wow. Yeah, makes sense. It’s all starting to come together. That’s why she can’t use tools and technology. She is a straight up cave woman. Dr. Guts 1003 writes “I am surprised there was no discussion in the episode of the film’s ending where the family has returned home.

[00:11:26] The boy’s mother ends up being killed and eaten by goblins. Which begs an important question. If the goblins could poison the food at their home and travel to their house to eat the mom, why go through the effort to trick the whole family to come to Nilbog in the first place?” Dr. Guts, I’ve been asking this question from the very beginning, but I have a feeling that this is like a haunted mansion situation.

[00:11:51] This is like a hitchhiking, a goblin. Like he definitely like rode under the car, like, uh, Robert De Niro in Cape Fear. And he got back there. I mean, I also think that that end might just be a dream. Am I wrong in thinking that, I think the end might be a dream. It might be probably is definitely is definitely not.

[00:12:11] Who knows? All I know is this movie probably just wanted a last scare and they wanted you to feel like the family was safe until the ending. Cause I don’t think it was about this family. I don’t think they wanted this family. I think they would take any family. They just got this family. So. But now I guess maybe they’re feeling like a revenge thing.

[00:12:30] Is it like Jaws where like the shark is now after the Brody family? I don’t know. Pokemon Creationist writes “Like Paul, I’m not a botanist. So Paul acting incredulous about these trees, not having green sap made me curious. I did some research and there is in fact, one tree on a South Pacific Island that has a bluish green sap.

[00:12:53] Now, the name here, I can’t pronounce. It seems like Picandria acuminate. Uh, has an abnormally high amount of nickel citrate in its sap, which makes it bleed varying shades of green slash blue.” Bam! Paul? You’ve been corrected. Hey, hey, hey, Pokemon Creationist. You found one tree. Uh, was this movie taking place in the South Pacific?

[00:13:20] I don’t think so. I don’t think so. And I would say that no one knew that. And you probably had to do a lot of Google searches to figure that one out. So I’m still right. Slightly wrong. Anyway, Whiskey Street, uh, writes “I’m still hung up on grandpa Seth, not the character or the acting, but his name. I don’t attribute Seth for grandpa name around the time this was made.

[00:13:46] This came out in 1990. Then I will conservatively say that grandpa Seth is around 75 years old. That would put him at being born in 1915, plus or minus a couple of years, according to the social security name database.” Oh, wow. We’re going there. “Seth was not even in the top 200 names for the decade of the 1910s, and it only lists the top 200.

[00:14:09] And I speculate it wouldn’t crack the top three or 400. The top five male baby names of the 1910s were John, William, James, and John, William, James. Robert and Joseph, some classic names. Also in the top 20 were Walter Harold and Albert. Surely any of those names would have made more sense than Seth. I suspect the writer threw in the name of their son or something as a nod to them.”

[00:14:39] Wow. Whiskey Street going deep. I know Seth did. It also seems like a young name. Not very many old Seths. Um, but maybe, uh, Seths get old, but they appear young. I don’t know, but you’re right. And I love that you went, you went and researched a movie that clearly has never been researched, but you didn’t research the other part of it.

[00:15:04] Which was who wrote it and do they have anyone in their family named Seth? Because then we would have gotten the full circle answer here. But anyway, I digress. For our final submission. Let’s go back to the phones for a different type of call than usual. Uh, but one that we all thought you should hear, this is Gabby from Salt Lake.

[00:15:23] Listener: Hi Paul. I just wanted to call about Troll 2. Less a correction, more an affirmation, I guess. Um, I love Troll 2. I have watched it so many times. Anytime I get a new friend group, I make them watch it with me. And one year, I got my father to watch it. His family comes from Morgan, Utah, which is where the movie was shot.

[00:15:51] And, um, so the next time We went up to Morgan, he took us to all the filming locations, um, and showed us around, and then from every year after that, whenever we passed the old church where the witch lady was, he’d always point and go, well, there’s your movie, um, and. My father died this last year, um, so I went up to Morgan for the first time without him, um, and when I passed the spot that the church used to be, um, I just was reminded of a man who didn’t really understand his daughter’s love for these dumb movies, but still connected with her, and I thought of all the friends that I’ve made watching that movie, and so I just want to say, um, um, these dumb movies can really bring people together and like to, um, ask people to share the things and the places you love with the people you love so that when they’re no longer here, you can still have that connection.

[00:17:06] Um, anyways, thank you so much for the show. Love it. Keep up the good work. Thanks.

[00:17:11] Paul Scheer: Gabby. Thank you for that call. Uh, that was truly so emotional and you got me and I just appreciate that. I appreciate that. And you’re right. You are so right. Share the things that you love with the people that you love. And, uh, you got me.

[00:17:32] I can’t, I can’t say more than, you know, as a matter of fact, how can you top that? I mean, that has to be our best correction and omission, even though it’s neither. It’s just really like a, a clarion call to all of us to hold our loved ones a little closer to say, I love you a little bit more and to share Troll two with the ones that mean the most to you. Anyway, uh, Gabby, you win this week’s corrections and omissions and here is.

[00:18:03] A song from Brendan

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[00:18:18] Paul Scheer: Thank you Brendan Abella for that song. And remember, if you wanna submit a theme song to us, you can. You can email your theme at, HowDidThisGetMade@Ear wolf.com we’re accepting corrections and omissions, just chat and winner theme songs only. Please keep them short. You know, the drill 15 to 20 seconds is best.

[00:18:35] And if you want to chime in on the latest episode, how did this get made? We’ll head on over to our discord at discord.gg/HDTGM or call us at 619-PAUL-ASK. All right. Coming up after the break, Jason’s going to stop by for just chat. We’ll announce next week’s movie, but before all that. Here is a bonus deleted scene from our troll to virtual live show.

[00:18:58] Now we have a very special guest, Whitney Holzman, who created the TV show, My So Called Life and wrote Wicked. Uh, she made a very generous donation to our fundraiser. So we let her come on at the end of the show to share an exclusive story about the, How Did This Get Made classic holiday film, Jack Frost.

[00:19:15] Um, this is a good one. Take a lesson.

[00:19:17] Winnie Holtzman: I hope it’s okay to tell a Jack Frost story on such a troll night. Um,

[00:19:21] Paul Scheer: it is, it is. It’s okay. Cause we finished the Troll. So now we could get into a little Jack Frost.

[00:19:26] Winnie Holtzman: Okay. It’s, it’s human interest. It’s not a funny story, but what it is is that I was sent a script called called Frosty by my agency and they said, you know, Sam Raimi is attached and would you like to do a page one rewrite?

[00:19:44] And, you know, I, I’m a big fan of Sam Raimi.

[00:19:47] Paul Scheer: Sure.

[00:19:48] Winnie Holtzman: So, um, I I’m met with Sam, we hit it off like that. We clicked and we we kind of talked out what we thought we could do. And I can’t remember, you know, Paul, all the details of what we did because this is so long ago. But we. We, we were working in a way that made this into a really, and you know, one thing I think I can say about myself and I, I don’t like to brag, but I think I know how to do something that’s heartfelt, you know,

[00:20:17] Paul Scheer: I mean, yes, My So Called Life, Wicked.

[00:20:19] You, you, you, you can say that about yourself. Yes, yes.

[00:20:23] Winnie Holtzman: And that is elicit genuine human emotion, you know, yes. And working with Sam was incredible. He’s, he’s got this amazing, you know, obviously visual brilliance and he was teaching, you know, I felt I was learning from working with him. Anyway, so we, We end up with this script that we’re, we’re looking at each other like, wow, this is, this is really good.

[00:20:45] I did, I did say one thing, uh, I never said anything to the, to the execs at Warners, but the one thing I said to them, the one thing is I said, you know, you’re calling it frosty. What age of person do you want to come to this movie? Right? Yeah, like And I said, well, you know what? If you want it to be like a family film that everyone will enjoy Why don’t you call it Jack Frost because it sounds a little more mature.

[00:21:14] I love it And so I they never really said yes or no but then what happened is Sam and I are like we, we nailed it. We hand it in and they fire us both immediately. They fire us both immediately. And it is funny. I’m so glad to see Jason laughing. Wow. It actually is pretty funny.

[00:21:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, it’s perfect.

[00:21:39] Winnie Holtzman: And both of us

[00:21:39] were busy with other things.

[00:21:40] It’s not like we were devastated. Right. But we did kind of look at each other like, What are they going to now go do? And they threw out everything we did.

[00:21:50] Paul Scheer: Oh my god. Did you? That could have been a legend. It would have been a huge movie.

[00:21:55] Adam Scott: Did you ever see

[00:21:56] the movie?

[00:21:56] Winnie Holtzman: No, I never watched the movie. And you know why?

[00:22:00] Because life is too short.

[00:22:04] Paul Scheer: I agree.

[00:22:04] Jason Mantzoukas: I agree. Winnie, but for 15 years we’ve been watching movies of that caliber constantly. And our lives are impaired.

[00:22:14] Winnie Holtzman: You know what, now

[00:22:15] I’ll probably watch it.

[00:22:16] Jason Mantzoukas: So Winnie, Winnie, you don’t think you wrote the line from Jack Frost, snow dad is better than no dad. Oh, you will not, you won’t, you won’t claim ownership of that line.

[00:22:28] That gem.

[00:22:29] Winnie Holtzman: I cannot. Okay. I cannot.

[00:22:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay.

[00:22:34] Paul Scheer: All right, people. Welcome back to the show. I know that, you know, that every Monday is Matinee Monday where we release an old episode back into the feed this week, we are talking Garbage Pail Kids with John Lovett, you know, from love it or leave it or Pod Saves America.

[00:22:51] I was just on Love It or Leave It. Listen to that episode. It was a blast. And, um, next week’s matinee will be the 2002 Dana Carvey comedy classic, The Master of Disguise, which has the unique distinction of shooting one of the most insane scenes in film. Uh, I’m talking about the, the turtle club scene on 9 11, 2001.

[00:23:15] And I think the crew took a break. And then said, Hey, we got a job to do. Let’s finish the turtle club scene. Uh, but that’s just one little fact about a very bizarre movie called the Master of Disguise, which I highly recommend you watch. All right, without any further ado, it is now time for a just chat with me and Jason. Chris Finke,

[00:23:35] play us in.

[00:23:41] Music: If your bookshelves getting dirty, you better dust that. If a barrel’s all corroded, it’s a real rust vat. Your fedora’s sittin crooked? Adjust hat. With Paul and Jason on the mic, you know it’s just chat. Just chat.

[00:24:03] Paul Scheer: All right, Jason, what is going on?

[00:24:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Let’s go.

[00:24:07] Paul Scheer: I

[00:24:07] love it.

[00:24:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[00:24:10] Paul Scheer: Uh, we, we talked a little bit last time just about what you were into.

[00:24:15] And I feel like we went off on tangents. I want to go back. Cause I always feel like you give me some of the best stuff. So, uh, what, what do you got? What do you got more stuff in there?

[00:24:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Let’s talk about stuff. We talked a little bit about, um, You some Star Wars animation and stuff last time. Uh, and just in terms of animation, there’s a couple of great things that I’ve been watching that I really would love to shout out.

[00:24:36] One of which is the French animated movie Mars Express that came out last year. That’s kind of like a blade Runner esque dystopian sci fi future story that is fantastic beautiful Um looks like mobius art. Um in service of a french sci fi drama a great great movie. Um, I can’t recommend it enough. Um another anime Um that is based on a graphic novel that I read, uh called Blue Giant. This is i’m gonna say maybe the best my favorite movie that i’ve seen this year.

[00:25:13] Paul Scheer: All right.

[00:25:15] Jason Mantzoukas: That being said, it came out last year, but I’ve only just seen it. It’s only just become available. It’s called Blue Giant. I think it’s on Netflix now. Um, and it is the best, I’m trying to think of how to say, I found watching this movie, like moving, like I, I got chills throughout and was like crying at multiple times.

[00:25:37] It’s

[00:25:37] the closest, it’s the closest I’ve ever seen to something capturing what it feels like to me, to perform, if that makes sense. Now, the movie is about jazz musicians. So, you know, it’s not a one to one based on what we do. But, but jazz is all about improvisation is all about going up with a group, an ensemble of people and doing something that is unstructured, putting something together that is in the moment.

[00:26:05] And the movie just goes so deep into the, the playing of music and what it is to be listening and reacting and getting better and getting better as a group. And it is, I found it to be incredible. Uh, it is, it’s just dynamite and it’s, the music is great. I’m also a jazz fan. So. The music is very affecting, but it really is just what it is to be a performer and how each of the three members of the trio are perfect archetypes of how to be a musician or how to be a creative person and how to find your creative voice and how to build off of it.

[00:26:43] Um, how to become who you are, how to find your voice and how to become the best version of that voice, how to learn. It really is

[00:26:50] incredible.

[00:26:51] Paul Scheer: That’s now, I was also thinking about that when you’re talking about it, like that reminds me a little bit of the Beatles documentary, like that kind of yes, the process, like really getting into that thing.

[00:27:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. And this, and I love that documentary for the exact same reason. Um, it is process, you know, and the Beatles documentary, you’re watching process and it’s very exciting Blue Giant. You’re watching process, but it’s a, it’s a, it’s obviously it’s a, it’s a, it’s animated. And so the music, all of it has this visual

[00:27:20] style and scope and scale that is also beautiful and takes you on this ride. And, and I mean, it’s the kind of movie that I cannot recommend enough, especially if you want to have a little bit of a gummy or something like that, because it’s a lot of it is music and the power of music and the power of working together and how that, how that can be both electrifying for the performer and the audience.

[00:27:47] And boy, I just, I can’t recommend it enough. Blue Giant. It’s on Netflix.

[00:27:51] Paul Scheer: Love that. All right. Um, that

[00:27:53] may, maybe like a June to watch that. I mean, you know, it’s like the big try.

[00:27:57] Jason Mantzoukas: I think the, I think the barrier to entry on this one is your. Interest or your patience for jazz.

[00:28:05] Okay. If that makes sense.

[00:28:07] Paul Scheer: No, you know, it’s like, uh, it’s so interesting.

[00:28:09] I always say like process is always interesting no matter what, but I, but you know, with, but with June, my big win recently was getting her to watch the Adam Sandler special, which. I don’t know if you watched that. Did you watch that?

[00:28:20] Jason Mantzoukas: I haven’t watched it yet. I haven’t watched it yet.

[00:28:22] Paul Scheer: It’s a complete deconstruction of what it’s like to do a live show that I found to be really.

[00:28:30] I mean, his standup set is great. We saw him kind of rehearsing some stuff at Largo before he did this. I saw it live. He did two and a half hours. The special is only an hour, but, uh, Josh Safdie, I believe, yeah, Josh, right, uh, directed it. And. They put this stuff around the show that I think captures two things.

[00:28:56] Interesting doing a show in a black box. They’re doing a show at like Largo or UCB on some level. Cause that’s how small it is. And also what it’s like to be Adam Sandler. So you have like these two elements that are running, but I thought that this idea, like. There are moments in the show where things are going wrong, like A.

[00:29:15] V. equipment’s not working, uh, like a, a piano breaks and the show keeps on going and there was something about that. It’s like, I’ve never seen anyone do this. It’s a, it’s not like, and, and this is the thing that I found so interesting. And I think that we can relate to on some level, the show has to keep going and the show acknowledges that.

[00:29:37] And so you’re like, what’s real, what’s not real, but the show is like, it’s still, it’s the show never derails and goes, now it’s all going to be about this. And we go off. It’s like, no, no, that hour of standup is high level, a plus great stand up, but on top of it, dealing with, yes, yes. And that is really, I’ve never seen anyone tack.

[00:29:58] I thought that was so cool.

[00:30:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Ooh, that’s cool. I watched and really loved Conor O’Malley’s special Stand Up Solutions, which is top to bottom absolutely bananas. And so, so funny. Um, just like relentlessly funny and absurd and exhausting to watch. Like I’m watching him. I don’t understand how he can do that.

[00:30:21] It’s it’s such a physical endurance test. He’s going so hard for so long. It’s very funny.

[00:30:28] Paul Scheer: He, I mean, he made that video, uh, the mask video, which is like a 24 minute thing about a guy who goes crazy in LA. I mean, they, they, these are. He creates this personality of the most unhinged person that.

[00:30:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. And this one’s all about

[00:30:47] AI writing his standups, writing his standups.

[00:30:49] It’s so fucking crazy. Oh my God. It’s a pre, I mean, to even get into it is nuts, but it’s absolutely worth watching. It’s fantastic. It’s super funny. It’s called Standup Solutions.

[00:31:01] Paul Scheer: And he is somebody that when

[00:31:02] I watch his stuff, I, I understand, uh, I understand very much. I understand that he’s in on it, but when you watch it, you also don’t know who is in on it around him.

[00:31:18] Like there are certain things there’s like, and that’s, and I, when I’m have a hard time figuring, I think that that’s actually, uh, uh, you know, not to say that I’m the best, but I’m like, but like, we’re in the business. We understand like, okay.

[00:31:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, no, it’s exciting to watch. It’s exciting to watch because it’s like, I feel like there’s, you know, Connor is one of those guys.

[00:31:40] I feel like Joe Pera is like this, where I’m like, so captivated by what they’re doing. And I genuinely am also like, Oh, I’m not sure I’m in on the, on the bit here. Like, I’m also coming at this as a true outsider and that’s a blast. So, and I know they work together a lot and you know, they’re part of that whole New York scene and it’s, it’s, I, Joe Pera’s special from this year that came out on YouTube, which you can get also fantastic.

[00:32:04] Um, and.

[00:32:05] Paul Scheer: Oh, I love that. Yeah. So good.

[00:32:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, what else? Oh, I wanted to, I wanted to mention, uh, wait, what were we just talking about?

[00:32:11] Paul Scheer: Right. Uh, the jazz documentary and then

[00:32:14] they

[00:32:14] go.

[00:32:14] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, that’s right. I was going to, if you’re into, if like, if you’re into my music recs, then I will also shout out on Criterion Collection, there’s a documentary called Trances that I think I’ve mentioned before, but I just rewatched it again, and it’s so good.

[00:32:27] It’s a documentary about the Moroccan band Nasser LeGaywan, who I love and I’m obsessed with, and it’s an incredible documentary. And then there’s another documentary I have now. Get ready, everybody. Huge announcement. Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow. I have joined Mubi. Great news, Paul. I now have, I have a Crunchyroll subscription, a BET plus subscription so that I can watch Diara from Detroit.

[00:32:50] And I now have a Mubi subscription. Um, and I watched this incredible movie, incredible documentary. On Mubi that is called done, done, done, done crossing the bridge. The sounds of Istanbul. Uh, fantastic. It’s from the early two thousands documentary about music in, uh, in Istanbul, Turkey, and it is fantastic.

[00:33:10] I absolutely flipped out over it. Lost my mind.

[00:33:13] Paul Scheer: Uh, you know, you’re going to, you know, uh, Seth, I’m going to come back to this and say that Seth Rogen recently reached out to me and gave me a subscription service that I should join, which is called Fawesome FAWE like awesome. But with an F, uh, Fawesome and he’s like, dude, every types of the movies that you do on how this get made, this is where they live.

[00:33:36] And I’m like, all right. And, uh, I’m excited to check out Fossum. And I’ll tell you this, uh, not as exciting as movie. I canceled, I cut the cord and I’m all on YouTube TV now and it’s changed everything. It’s so much better and i’m angry that like as somebody who adopts shit early on that is like why was I waiting for this?

[00:33:59] Like what was the interesting i’m paying 149 a month for a direct Tv.

[00:34:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, I’ve still got direct tv. I’ve still got a tivo full of classic movies.

[00:34:08] Paul Scheer: No, I mean this this by the way if you said like oh, I want to watch Uh, you know, Hugo Weaving, you

[00:34:13] put that into, it will tape every Hugo Weaving thing and it doesn’t take up the space.

[00:34:17] Jason Mantzoukas: That’s cool.

[00:34:18] Okay. I like that. Cause here’s what I’m, here’s my problem and this isn’t a problem. And this is also one of my, one of the things I want to talk about, which is I’m having such trouble, um, deciding with the, the, the complete reversal of how we grew up watching tv versus how we do tv now, which is.

[00:34:36] Paul Scheer: Having arguments

[00:34:37] about this,

[00:34:38] yes.

[00:34:38] Jason Mantzoukas: There’s only. When I was a teenager, you turn on the tv, you could only go 4 whatever 10 places and you had to watch what was on one of those things and now I have to decide ahead of time what to watch. And then I’m making bad choices. I loved being able to stumble on stuff or find a thing or blah, blah, blah, which is why I really like having cable to, I still flip, I still flip around and find this or that.

[00:35:04] I watched 20 minutes of this or 20 minutes of that. And I love that, that sense of discovery. I like getting turned on to new things. Um, and that’s one of the reasons I’ve kept it. But somebody that’s doing this is, have you checked out Criterion 24/7?

[00:35:18] Paul Scheer: Yes,

[00:35:19] I heard about it

[00:35:19] Jason Mantzoukas: On criterion channel. You can now just click a button and it just starts playing a movie that’s in the mid.

[00:35:25] That’s who knows where it is. They don’t tell you what it is. It’s just you’re watching a movie. And I watched a movie the other day called, um, Dragon Inn. A fantastic martial arts movie I’d never heard of just because I hit that button and boom, it was on. I watched 40 minutes until the end and it was fantastic.

[00:35:43] Absolutely incredible. I loved it.

[00:35:45] Paul Scheer: See, I like this. This is like, I, I have been really enjoying, I’m trying to find that level of making choices and trying to find like that Aliens Expanded. That’s why I think like these other services, you see something and you maybe just go down a rabbit hole for a second.

[00:36:01] Like, I don’t want to know what I’m going to watch. I stumbled on Long Legs the other day and I was like, Ooh. I’ve heard about Long Legs, but let me, uh.

[00:36:07] Jason Mantzoukas: I haven’t seen it. Yeah.

[00:36:09] Paul Scheer: You know, and I’m enjoying it. I have the middle of it, but, uh, but I’m enjoying.

[00:36:12] Jason Mantzoukas: I like that.

[00:36:13] Yeah.

[00:36:13] Paul Scheer: You know, I, I think it’s like, it’s, you wanna try to find these, I think discovery is important.

[00:36:19] I think it’s really important. And I’ll say, uh, you know, one of the things that was so much fun is my wife June, uh, who, you know. Uh, she, uh, she.

[00:36:28] Jason Mantzoukas: I, I, I’ve, I’ve met her.

[00:36:29] Paul Scheer: You met her?

[00:36:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Once or twice. Yeah.

[00:36:31] Paul Scheer: You’ve seen her. Um, she truly has that ability like. We went to go see and hopefully we will do it on the show, uh, Trap, uh, the M. Night movie in the theater and knew nothing about it at all, like to the extent of, and when she, when the, when the, you know, I think it’s pretty well known that Trap is about a, uh, a serial killer who is entrapped in a, uh, stadium, uh, you know, and, uh, When, when it was revealed that he was like, uh, a killer or something, wow, June’s reaction was loud and I, she’s like, what the fuck? What, like, and I’m like, and that’s what I sometimes aspire to be.

[00:37:13] I don’t want to, I don’t want to know, I want to be able to be like, wait a second, this is not a movie about like Taylor Swift, this is a Taylor, this is a movie about like Josh Harknett kill you Like way. Oh, I love that. And it wa like her, it’s so pleasing to watch things through her.

[00:37:29] Jason Mantzoukas: I love that. That’s great.

[00:37:31] Paul Scheer: I, I love it.

[00:37:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, that’s fun to have that kind of, to have surprise, especially for a movie that has surprises. That’s great.

[00:37:37] Paul Scheer: Yes. Oh.

[00:37:38] Jason Mantzoukas: To not, to not know. Um, I love that them to continue a little bit of my uh, music kick, uh, I will, I’ve mentioned him before on the show Toumani Diabaté, the Malian Cora player passed away this year just recently.

[00:37:57] Um, as of this recording and, um, a huge loss and somebody that I, I cannot recommend that everybody please find either. He has so many albums, uh, that are out there that are so beautiful. Um, a true like master virtuoso musician on a, on an instrument that is absolutely incredible, the Cora, a, a, um, like, you know, somebody who is participating in, you know, perpetuating the history of this music for so long, passing it down to his sons who now continue to play, uh, RIP

[00:38:31] Diabate, truly incredible, incredible guy. Um, and, um, Yeah, his death has sent me on like a big re listen to a lot of his stuff and it’s just incredible. The new Bill McKay album is fantastic.

[00:38:44] Paul Scheer: I don’t even know.

[00:38:45] Jason Mantzoukas: I did an episode of All Songs Considered talking about music and got a very nice shout out from the band Dancer who I mentioned on that podcast, so I’m going to shout them out again.

[00:38:54] Fantastic album. Great band. Um, did you have anything that you wanted to, were you just looking like you wanted to say something?

[00:39:01] Paul Scheer: No, I was, I was listening to you and thinking about like different things that I’ve been into. And I just, I realized I did this podcast that was really fun. Um, and I’m trying, I was looking for the name of it where you break down one album.

[00:39:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, yeah, great. Oh, that reminds me of what I wanted to say. Yes. Thank you. Go ahead. Yeah.

[00:39:18] Paul Scheer: And we went and my, my episode is all about the strokes. Uh, I’m going to find out the name of the, uh, the podcast. Uh, but so it was.

[00:39:26] Jason Mantzoukas: The one that I

[00:39:27] wanted to mention is called Life of the Record. And every, every episode is a different album from an artist.

[00:39:34] Um, completely D document, like a documentary with the artists. So, the way that Song Exploder, um, uh, Rishikesh Hearaway’s show will dig into a song, this is applied to an entire album, um, and with the artists. And so recently they’ve done the first Sunny Day Real Estate record, which is an all time favorite for me.

[00:39:57] One of the early Deerhoof records, incredible. They do all sorts of band, they did a microphones record. They’ve done built a spill records. It’s a great docu series about albums.

[00:40:07] Really good.

[00:40:09] Paul Scheer: I, I love that. I don’t want to check that out. And I’ll say that this guy’s a podcast is called The 500. It’s a Josh Adam Meyers who has done a, he does this thing called the Comedy Jam.

[00:40:19] Really, uh, they were comedians saying, but what I love about it is it’s the, the, uh, what is it? The, um, Rolling Stones top. Uh, 500 albums of all time, right? So he goes through, uh,

[00:40:32] Jason Mantzoukas: a little bit like you originally unspooled was the AFI. Yes. So this is like.

[00:40:37] Paul Scheer: Bill Burr

[00:40:37] talking about a Highway to Hell. Me talking about The Strokes, uh, James Adomian talking about, uh, the best of Little Walter, Adam Pally doing REM’s Murmur, you know, so it’s, it’s a lot of like fun people breaking it down.

[00:40:51] And I hadn’t listened to the strokes was. Really influential to me in a weird way because I think for the same way with you, it also captured a time that we were in new york and what The Strokes were doing and what we were doing. And that’s kind of like Meet Me in the Bathroom. So it like it was really fun to kind of go and look at that and see what that just go back to that album, which I haven’t listened to in a long time.

[00:41:12] But this, this show has been going on for years and it’s like all your favorite comedians, you know, Eddie Peppertone talking about The Who, uh, Jim Norton,

[00:41:21] Jim

[00:41:22] Norton about Black Sabbath. Uh, you know, it’s a really, yeah, really, really fun people. Yeah, really, really fun.

[00:41:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Um, that’s cool. I like that.

[00:41:31] Paul Scheer: Fred

[00:41:31] Armisen and Kraftwerk.

[00:41:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that’s a good, that’s a good combination. I’ll shout out a couple of other podcasts that I’ve been listening to and loving. Um, the, the new season of the TCM podcast, The Plot Thickens. That’s all about John Ford.

[00:41:47] Ooh,

[00:41:48] John Ford season is I think terrific, really great. Um, and then Ben Mankiewicz has a new show called Talking Pictures.

[00:41:56] Paul Scheer: I’m going to be on that.

[00:41:57] Jason Mantzoukas: What? Oh, that’s so great.

[00:41:59] Paul Scheer: Very excited about that.

[00:42:00] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, when? Do you know?

[00:42:02] Paul Scheer: I, well, you know what? I’m taping it next week. So that’s all I know.

[00:42:05] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, okay.

[00:42:05] So, oh, great. So soon ish.

[00:42:07] Paul Scheer: Soon ish, yeah.

[00:42:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, cool.

[00:42:09] Oh, I love it. It’s a great show. It’s a great show. I can’t wait to hear yours. But he talks to people and, you know, there, there’s a great, um .

[00:42:17] there’s a great, uh, so we were talking about Soderbergh last time. There’s a great Soderbergh episode. There’s a great, um, they, he just talks to, to filmmakers and, you know, actors and people who, you know, have film knowledge and want to talk about it. And it’s terrific. I think that show is a blast to listen to.

[00:42:34] Uh, and then the show that I have absolutely loved and has sent me on so many hilarious, I will say YouTube, uh, wormholes is, um, the, uh, uh, I can’t remember what they’re calling it, but the, the podcast, that’s the, that’s Seth Meyers and the Lonely Island guys talking about the digital shorts.

[00:42:54] Paul Scheer: Yes. Yeah. I love that one.

[00:42:55] Jason Mantzoukas: So it’s ostensibly a show that’s about, you know, each episode is about the next digital short. They’re going chronologically for all the digital shorts. But what I love about the show is they have a, they have the rundown of that episode of SNL. So not only do they talk about that, digital short, they talk about all the sketches in that episode and what sketches got cut between dress and air and how, what they remember about this musical guest. That so it ends up being a ton of storytelling and behind the scenes process SNL stuff, which is a blast.

[00:43:30] And then they will lovingly talk about, especially will Forte sketches and it’s, it’s usually Will Forte sketches. Just they, they all clearly really get such a kick out of Forte. Um, and so that has just led me to not just them talking about sketches they love. I’ve just been going and finding and watching those sketches, which is, oh, that’s great.

[00:43:54] So that I, I recommend

[00:43:56] Paul Scheer: I listened to a handful of them and I always will go back and listen. I, that’s good to go back and dig in a little bit more because I listened.

[00:44:02] Jason Mantzoukas: It’s a fun one.

[00:44:03] Paul Scheer: Um, I’ve been listening to this podcast, but I just want to shout out, which I think is really good. It’s, uh, it’s a group called like, uh, sorry, the show called The Focus Group.

[00:44:12] Have you heard about this?

[00:44:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Nope.

[00:44:13] Paul Scheer: It’s all right. So it really is. Um, it’s somebody, uh, from, uh, Sarah Longwell from the Bulwark. Okay. Um, she basically conducts like hundreds of hours of focus groups all across the country and talks about what they think about things, you know? So it is like, um, it’s, it’s a very interesting, it’s just fascinating to hear what people like, you know, like I think it’s right now around politics.

[00:44:43] It’s really. Fascinating.

[00:44:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, wow.

[00:44:45] Paul Scheer: Because it really is about hearing. It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s no spin. It’s a, it’s a focus group. What are, what are people saying? What do they like? What do they pull away from? What are they, what are they taking from this? And it’s, and I feel like, you know, we often put that on TV very quickly, but this is a much more deeper dive in it.

[00:45:00] And if you’re interested right now, obviously in politics and things like that, it’s a fun, interesting podcast that goes in a different direction than just like punditry.

[00:45:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, that sounds very interesting. Um, yeah. I am also watching a lot of like YouTube stuff and one of my long time favorite, like video essayists, um, has returned.

[00:45:21] Uh, Every Frame a Painting is making new content.

[00:45:26] They

[00:45:27] are. They have one video, I think one, maybe two videos up as of this recording. I’m not sure. Um, I for sure have seen one of them. Um, and it’s about the, uh, it’s about the static two shot, which I think is a terrific thing to dig into. Um, but, uh, Every Frame of Painting, like inarguably one of the great film essay, uh, YouTube film essay, uh, you know, essayists, I guess, uh, going.

[00:45:53] So this is content that I think. Everything. The, the, what are the one about the eyes, how David Fincher’s camera follows actors eyes is what is the, is the thesis of, of the video. It’s great. Um, the videos are incredible. The, the, the, the, in the past and the new ones, I’m so excited about. Every Frame of Painting.

[00:46:13] I can’t recommend that enough. Uh, Off Beat, there’s a channel on YouTube called Off Beat, and it’s a guy that does music like short form music documentaries that’ll be about. A lot of times they’re about drummers, to be honest. So it’ll be about Tony Williams or, you know, it’ll be a deep dive into a drummer, whether it’s like a jazz drummer or a rock drummer or somebody really, really good, informative stuff.

[00:46:38] Somebody that I think is so fucking funny in the most bite sized bits is this guy whose name I don’t know, but the channel is called Man Carrying Things Um, they are like two minute videos that are so fucking funny and so sharp and so smart And then every once in a while, I think his main gig Is he’s like a book. He talks about books.

[00:47:02] He’s like a big so it’ll be like these It’ll be a whole of these like one and a half minute, two minute, like, like searing, scathing send ups of internet culture, and then it will be a 15 minute video just about his favorite detective novels, which will, which will also be called again. It’s called Man Carrying Things.

[00:47:23] Paul Scheer: Okay, got it.

[00:47:23] Jason Mantzoukas: It is the maj I believe, and I, I’m, forgive me, Man Carrying Things, if I’m misrepresenting this, I believe he was a book, a book person, and then started making these shorter sketches, and I think the sketches took off. So now the channel appears to be more sketches than books.

[00:47:42] Paul Scheer: Okay, so it is, I think it is called Man Carrying Thing.

[00:47:46] Singular.

[00:47:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, sorry thing.

[00:47:49] Paul Scheer: Uh, by the way, you know, I love these deep dives and, and, um, one of the things that, uh, I got obsessed with and I can’t remember the exact episode, but Last Podcast on the Left, that podcast, very good podcast, horror podcast, they do a really, uh, big deep dive into what is sci fi horror and what is regular horror.

[00:48:12] They, they, they kind of parse. Like where horror is and what we’re doing more and less of in, uh, supernatural horror, sci fi horror, and they really like try to break down this delineation of clarifying a definition of horror. I thought that was really cool.

[00:48:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Ooh,

[00:48:31] that’s neat. Oh, I like that. And I like those guys.

[00:48:33] I, I haven’t checked. I used to listen to that, that show and I haven’t checked it out in a while, so that’s a good reason to go back.

[00:48:39] Paul Scheer: Yeah, they have a, yeah, it’s a really kind of a fun way of just deconstructing this stuff.

[00:48:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, can I just shout out one more thing?

[00:48:47] Yeah, and then I’ll shout out because we haven’t talked about books or comics or anything like that.

[00:48:52] I’ll shout out Cocaine and Rhinestones. Uh, the wonderful podcast that I’ve shouted out many times before has put out a book. Uh, that’s fantastic that I just got. And then I also really enjoyed the graphic novel. It’s Lonely at the Center of the Earth from Zoe Thorogood. Uh, I also just read and was terrific.

[00:49:10] Paul Scheer: I also want to pop in. Uh, I’ve been reading a bunch of books lately. I’ve been loving, I actually, uh, I’m on Storygraph, which I really like, you know, me and what that is. All right. So I like these apps. I love Letterboxd and I love Storygraph because it’s just a way to keep track of what I’ve been reading and what I’ve been watching and, and they both are just, you know, it, it, it’s They are social media in the sense that people can follow you.

[00:49:33] I’m I’m anonymous on a Story graph, but I don’t want to be anonymous on a Letterbox because I followed my friends and, uh, but, but story graph, I can just see, Oh, these are the books I’ve been reading and this is what I like. And this is my, you know, just keeps a track in it. Like actually it’s, it’s nice for me to look back and see what I’ve read, you know, um, anyway, yeah.

[00:49:52] Jason Mantzoukas: What are the books?

[00:49:53] Paul Scheer: Yeah. Well, the one that I just finished just this past weekend, which was great. Was The Running Man, the original Stephen King. I always thought it was a short story. It’s not, it’s a full book. Um, and. Man oh man, I enjoyed that.

[00:50:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Man oh running man.

[00:50:10] Paul Scheer: Man oh running. I enjoyed the hell out of it.

[00:50:12] It’s such a different book than, uh, than the movie. I thought it was so good. And I also read, um, the Making of Airplane book, the Surely You Can’t Be Serious. I actually listened to it. Uh, Surely You Can’t Be Serious, The True Story of Airplane, where it’s just basically an oral history of, uh, of the making of, of Airplane.

[00:50:32] And that was really, uh, fun.

[00:50:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that,

[00:50:34] uh, that’s, that must be fun. I like that. That’s a good one.

[00:50:36] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:50:36] Yeah. But I’ve been reading a lot more in it. Uh, but yeah, there’ve been, uh, but that one really was a, uh, like running man just surprised me. I was like, Oh, I want to pick this up. I, you know, I heard about it and.

[00:50:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Uh, that’s cool.

[00:50:46] I

[00:50:46] like that idea of log. Cause I log everything anyway, but I, the, the idea of having it be interactive or something like that, Letterboxd is so interesting to me. I just wish it was not social media. I wish I could just, you know.

[00:50:59] Paul Scheer: Look,

[00:50:59] so the idea is like on Letterbox like famous directors are on there.

[00:51:04] Like Margo Robbie is on there, but you don’t know where she is. Right. She can follow whoever she wants. I don’t mind people seeing it. Uh, and, and, uh, I don’t try to give a serious reviews, uh, as much as I just kind of like log and watch other people’s stuff, there is no, You could be anonymously on Letterboxd and just follow the people that you like, you know, uh,

[00:51:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Will people,

[00:51:24] will then people understand just how many times I’m watching Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants?

[00:51:28] Paul Scheer: I mean, look, like, if you, but if you put your name to it, then they would, but if you don’t put your name to it, then, uh, then it’s fine, and that, I think that’s what the reason why I like it, because it’s like, There’s no, like, I don’t go like, Oh, I saw your thing on letterbox. What I really will say is like, Oh shit.

[00:51:42] My friend, Ben David just watched this movie called Moontide. What’s that? And I’ll click on Moontide. And I’m like, Oh, this, and this is like, we’re talking about stumbling into stuff. So that’s why I like Letterbox like I, everybody that I follow, I’m watching what they’re watching. And like some weekends I might see everyone’s watching Trapped or everyone’s watching Harry and the Hendersons.

[00:52:05] And I’m like, Ooh.

[00:52:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Maybe it kind of feels

[00:52:07] like an event. It feels like a, like you’re part of participating in like a cultural event.

[00:52:12] Paul Scheer: Well, like, here’s a perfect example. I just opened it up right now and it was like, Oh, my friend watched and gave four stars to Hombre which is a Paul Newman movie I’ve never heard of from 1967.

[00:52:22] And it’s like, Hombre means man, Paul Newman is Hombre and I’m like, well, I would never have found Hombre right. And Oh, and you know, to that, to that point, the movie that I just found out about on this, um, Which I believe is on Plex that you and I share Plex, uh, uh, is this movie it’s called Cold Turkey. It came out in 1971.

[00:52:45] Okay. It’s directed by Norman Lear. And it’s the only movie written by Norman Lear. Um, and it stars Dick Van Dyke, Tom Poston, Bob and Ray, Bob Newhart. And the premise is, is it’s, um, it is basically, it’s, uh, it’s a fictional town. And, uh, this company, this tobacco company stages a publicity stunt offering $25 million to any American town whose entire population can stop smoking cigarettes for a month.

[00:53:15] And it’s all about this depressed town of Eagle Rock, Iowa, who takes the challenge, but then struggles to overcome its addiction to smoking. And it’s like, Whoa, I didn’t even know that Norman Lear had a movie. Like this is, you know, so, and Bob and Ray, who I love. And it’s like, there’s a bunch of like really fun people.

[00:53:32] And I’m like, so I have not watched yet, but I wouldn’t have found it unless it was, uh.

[00:53:38] Jason Mantzoukas: That’s cool that I, that you’re right about that. That is a, as a methodology for discovery. I totally get why Letterboxd is good. That’s maybe, okay, maybe I’ll check it out.

[00:53:48] Paul Scheer: And by

[00:53:48] the way, just go, just go, uh, just download it.

[00:53:51] Go anonymous and it doesn’t make any, and I’ll tell you this much. Uh, if you like that, uh, Randy Newman does all the music to it. Original music of that.

[00:53:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, that’s so funny. Oh, that’s great. Yeah. I love it.

[00:54:00] Paul Scheer: So

[00:54:00] there you go. Um, all right.

[00:54:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Great stuff.

[00:54:03] Paul Scheer: That was great.

[00:54:03] Jason Mantzoukas: Great

[00:54:04] recs.

[00:54:05] Paul Scheer: Fun stuff. Um, all right. We’ll, uh, we’ll talk soon.

[00:54:08] Thank you, Jason. And now it’s time to announce our next movie. We’re going to go from green trees to ETs. That’s right. Coming up in our next episode, we will be watching the 1989 sci fi horror film Communion, starring Christopher Walken. Now. You might recognize this movie because this is a movie that I talk about in my book because I never saw the film, but I was on set for it being filmed.

[00:54:38] Uh, so this is a perfect moment to tie it all together. Anyway, a breakdown of the plot of Communion is simple. A novelist’s wife and son see him changed by an apparent encounter with aliens in the mountains. Now I will also say this is based on a true story. Yes, this movie is wild. I highly recommend you watch it, even though Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 43 percent score on the tomato meter.

[00:55:04] And Eddie Harrison from film authority. com writes, “Seeing Christopher Walken deep probed by aliens has a real curiosity value for gawkers and thrill seekers, but Communions intermittent sense of quasi religious conviction is unusual to say the least.” Wow, you said so much there, Eddie and, I have to kind of agree and disagree with you because yes, and yes, but also, no, what am I saying?

[00:55:36] I’m just saying that you’re right, but I’m also fully engaged in this movie. All right. Take a listen to the trailer for Communion.

[00:55:44] Trailer Audio: It wasn’t a dream. There’s a group that meets. Group? People

[00:55:49] who’ve seen the same sort of things you have.

[00:55:50] Which group of aliens abducted you?

[00:55:53] Bob, we are not victims. We are participants.

[00:55:57] I don’t recall them being human. Got to take care of

[00:56:03] my baby! He’s screaming! You people, you sit there, you’re

[00:56:10] in for one big surprise.

[00:56:14] Paul Scheer: Cummunion is available to stream on Amazon Prime, Peacock Freevie and Pluto TV, the Roku channel and Hoopla. In addition to Hoopla, Canopy and Libby are two more great digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to consume movies, TV, music, audio books, eBooks, and comics for free.

[00:56:30] Uh, get on it people and start enjoying these films for free. Don’t let it mess up your algorithm on your streaming services. Um, and I love to see when Letterbox takes one of these movies. I’m going to see everybody on Letterbox now watching Communion and nothing makes me more happy. Anyway, uh, that is it for Last Looks.

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[00:57:09] And I want to shout out the Action Jackson 5 for making our opening theme song. What a great one. I love it so much. And a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonne and Molly Reynolds and our movie picking producer, Avaryll Halley, our associate producer, Jess Cisneros and our engineer Casey Holford. We will see you next week for Communion.