EP. 350 — Bait 3D LIVE!

Paul Scheer [00:00:00] First there were snakes on a plane and now sharks in a supermarket. We saw Bait, so you know what that means.

 

Music [00:00:15] [Intro Song]

 

Paul Scheer [00:01:05] Hello people of Earth! And hello people of Nantucket! We are live at the Nantucket Film Festival to talk about one of the most important shark films ever made. That’s right. The 2012 film Bait, which was shot in 3D. If you’re wondering, we are in the Sconce Casino, which is not a casino, but we are not asking questions about that. If you’ve not seen Bait, this is what you need to know. A freak tsunami traps shoppers at a coastal Australian supermarket, and inside the building are two 12 foot great white sharks. That’s right. And now they must survive. As the tagline calls it, “Clean up on aisle seven because a tsunami just flipped the food chain.” Here to break down tonight’s film is my co-host, Mr. Jason Mantzoukas!

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:02:13] What’s up, jerks!? That’s right. Here we go, Nantucket. Oh! Oh, wow. What the.

 

Paul Scheer [00:02:21] Get comfortable. You’re on my porch. We’ll be having a mint julep in just a moment. Yeah. This is a very comfortable.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:02:30] Get me a Nantucket nectar ASAP.

 

Paul Scheer [00:02:32] Oh, my gosh.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:02:33] Oh, man. It’s been a while you been in here, I lost ten grand at the blackjack table.

 

Paul Scheer [00:02:38] Oh, my gosh, that is not a functioning.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:02:40] There is a blackjack table back there at this casino that I am bankrupting myself.

 

Paul Scheer [00:02:47] Don’t worry, we don’t have air conditioning. But that’s not a problem, because this movie will cool you down.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:02:53] I’m. I mean, it’s a lot of you. You asked earlier how many people had watched the movie and it’s smattering of applause, but then those of you who didn’t watch the movie just watched the trailer. And aren’t you like, we fucked up. Holy shit. Or are you like, thank God we didn’t watch that.

 

Paul Scheer [00:03:09] Dreamland movie theater. We worship you for playing this on Saturday for $5.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:15] Did you ask how many people were at the Dreamland?  Yeah. All right. Look at that. Nice. Good work.

 

Paul Scheer [00:03:22] Jason, have you ever seen Bait before?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:23] Oh, of course I’ve seen it all the time. No! I’ve never seen this before. And I wish I hadn’t seen it this time. What an absolute nightmare this was to be in a picturesque, beautiful New England town all day and instead be sitting in the hotel watching this movie on an iPad. No thank you.

 

Paul Scheer [00:03:43] Jason. It is a classic film. I mean, it really is. It’s up there with all the great art.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:03:49] Casablanca. Yes. Chinatown. 2001. Bait.

 

Paul Scheer [00:03:56] Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome my other co-host, the lovely June Diane Raphael. Welcome, June. How are you?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:04:15] Okay. Hi.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:17] Rowdy.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:04:18] Oh, it’s so nice. All the oxygen being pumped into the casino, you can just kind of. Wakes you up real quick. That’s so nice.

 

Paul Scheer [00:04:27] June. You watched Bait with our seven year old son.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:04:31] Okay. Okay, okay. So when we arrived on in Nantucket, Paul said, let’s show the kids Jaws. And I said, that’s crazy. They’re going to be terrified to go in the water. And so I showed them Bait.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:04:49] I love it. I love it. They need to know.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:04:51] They need to know. They need to see. Well, first of all, our seven year old came in late in the movie, so I didn’t show the beginning. And. But then he came in and he saw. He saw things, you know, he saw things that he’ll never unsee. He missed all the romance in the beginning.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:06] Oh, that’s too bad.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:05:08] But he. When I tell you. He laughed, every scene.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:15] Like. Like a villain?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:05:18] Huge laughs. And I thought, oh, this is going to terrify him. Like, I shouldn’t be doing this, but I’m too lazy to get up. And every time I thought, it’s going to really scare him and scar him, he would laugh hysterically. So, yeah.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:33] There’s nothing in this movie that I think could scare anyone.

 

Paul Scheer [00:05:37] Mainly because it’s all CGI and CGI that is so bad.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:44] I would say that even a seven year old understands that everybody in this movie deserves to die. Here’s the reality. Yeah. We’re trapped in this grocery store, and it’s a adjoining parking structure with after a tsunami.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:00] You mean the car park?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:01] The car park. Yes. After this tsunami, which is unquestionably just absolutely totaled, the coastline is is wreaking havoc for the people involved. And we’re stuck with these fucking idiots. I wish every one of them had died. Minute one. I would have just watched another hour and a half of the sharks eating happily, because these people were all dumber than the next.

 

Paul Scheer [00:06:27] It’s an anti Australian ad. It’s like, don’t come to Australia. We’re full of terrible people.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:33] There are sharks even in our supermarkets. Not just in this and not just in the water, but even our supermarkets are shark infested.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:41] That that is something just to jump to the plot of the movie, that there’s a tsunami the sharks get in the supermarkets. They’re trapped in there. That’s the movie. But but why didn’t they consider feeding the sharks?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:56] All the dead bodies.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:06:57] Or the grocery items.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:06:59] Sure. Oh. There’s huge. There’s there’s half a there’s multiple half cows.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:05] There’s so much meat.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:07] Multiple slabs of beef.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:08] There’s aisles of meat.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:09] And they have so much more access, seemingly to duct tape.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:13] Flashlights.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:15] Like corded ropes with so much rope, so much rope. Just go grab this half of a thing of beef. And then also, there are so many dead bodies. Surround yourselves with dead bodies. Let the sharks chomp on them while you walk right out.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:07:30] You know what I actually when I was watching this because there’s so many dead bodies floating by at all times. I actually thought, oh, they’re everywhere. And I thought, oh, I guess sharks don’t like dead bodies like that. I was like, oh, that’s a new fact about sharks.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:47] They had that moment in it where they’re like, I guess they like live bait. And I’m like, I don’t think that’s part of it, that the sharks are like, I’d like a challenge.

 

Paul Scheer [00:07:53] Yeah. I don’t think that they’re that discerning of an eater, considering they just they’re really engulfing it wholesale. I mean, the movie opens up with a very dramatic opening. Two lifeguards are out at the beach. And and they’re. Well, yes, one of them is engaged.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:10] We’ll get to it.

 

Paul Scheer [00:08:13] But there is a shark basically, does what a dolphin might do to a ball and comes up underneath, like, a surfboard or like a little sea-doo and pops the lifeguard up in the air, the lifeguards getting eaten. Our hero comes out to rescue him and then basically creates a hook like he he doesn’t try to pull him out of the water. He just scoops him up and holds him still for the shark to eat him. And and at which point his engagement is over, because the person he’s going to get married to is like your terrible person. I should not marry you.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:51] No, that’s his brother in law. Well, I know that’s meant to be his his best friend and his brother in law, but he can’t forgive himself.

 

Paul Scheer [00:08:56] I think she can’t forgive him either.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:08:58] We never really know what I will point out. I’m not sure if everyone saw this who saw the movie, but we cut. We cut it 12 months later. So this horrible event has happened. Where, a man, a fellow lifeguard, has been killed by a shark. And 12 months later, our hero is looking at his bulletin board.

 

Paul Scheer [00:09:21] I wrote this.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:09:21] You wrote this down too? And we see a University of Singapore acceptance letter.

 

Paul Scheer [00:09:27] Oh, I missed that.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:09:28] You didn’t see that. So. And he’s posted it to his bulletin board. So I thought, oh, I wonder if every dream really has been deferred because of this event, or he’s just reminding himself like it’s time to go in the fall.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:43] Well, no, because she’s in Singapore.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:09:46] I know, but he’s been accepted.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:09:48] And so he now they have broken up. And there again the movie starts as if it is like a, like expansive, you know, town wide. There’s a shark attack. Multiple people are killed, the lifeguards are engaged. It’s big. It’s has scale and scope. And then the it’s 12 months later and our hero, who looks an awful lot like Australian Logan from Gilmore Girls or Carrie from Good Wife, if you know him as Carrie from Good Wife? I know him as both. I prefer to call him Australian Logan from Gilmore Girls. He is now working in the supermarket and the rest of the movie another. This movie seems to like this guy is being followed by sharks. They get it everywhere he works, sharks are like, we’re here, bro, we’re here. Fuck you. We eat people at your work.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:10:39] Expect us.

 

Paul Scheer [00:10:41] The sharks have something out for him. But I also want to just follow the the travel of like his, like his downfall. Because on the bulletin board, what I noticed was the article that said, lifeguard killed, not the obituary of his friend, but like the article of the the like, it’s like if you had a friend who was killed, why would you put that up?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:03] He was probably mentioned. He was probably mentioned. So you like that he probably clipped it because he was like, oh, like I mentioned in this article about saving my friend’s corpse.

 

Paul Scheer [00:11:11] And and so the downfall we’re supposed to see is this lifeguard. His career spirals to just being a supermarket manager. Yeah. Assistant manager.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:22] And then this tsunami happens to him, like, imagine all of the things.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:11:25] Wait, wait, wait before the tsunami. Yeah. An armed robbery happens in this supermarket. So much is happening on that day.

 

Paul Scheer [00:11:34] How much money are you getting from a supermarket?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:38] Not much. They open the safe and it’s empty. These guys have bad information.

 

Paul Scheer [00:11:46] We heard they got all the banana money. And today we’re going to go rob them.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:11:49] And it’s. It’s Nip Tuck, right? This is Nick tuck. Yes. I can’t remember his name. His name is to me, Nip tuck.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:11:55] So I thought I have to admit that when the movie started, I thought, oh, it’s a bunch of Australians doing American accents, right? Okay. And then as it went on, I thought, no, it’s a bunch of Americans doing Australian accents. It was such a hodgepodge.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:13] I believe it’s a little of both.

 

Paul Scheer [00:12:14] Well, because we were talking about Nip Tuck is a Julian McMahon and he is doing an American accent. And I will show you how bad his American accent is here.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:26] Is he doing an American accent?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:12:27] Very much so.

 

Paul Scheer [00:12:28] Watch this and you’ll see it.

 

Movie Audio [00:12:31] Think about it. You bust your ass in here eight hours a day, seven days a week.

 

Paul Scheer [00:12:36] I also think that’s 80 yard. I don’t think that that’s his real voice, but here we go.

 

Movie Audio [00:12:41] You’ll probably hump away like that for the next 40 years. So whatever way you cut at this place was going to kill you. Now it’s just sooner rather than later.

 

Paul Scheer [00:12:52] He’s having like a McConaughey. Like it’s crazy.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:12:55] Sooner than later. Here’s the thing, though. I, I also just really I had a major issue with this presumption he makes that our grocery store manager is destined to die at the hands of his job. Like, how dare you? They could. How dare you? You have no idea what this man’s dreams are, what kind of hustles he’s working on the side, or if he just enjoys the life of a grocery manager.

 

Paul Scheer [00:13:22] Most grocery store managers sign a 40 year contract. It’s the way it goes. If you want, you got to commit. You got to commit.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:29] This movie feels like it’s the Final Destination movie. It feels like the sharks were like, we didn’t get you in the water. We’re coming to where you are now. Like. Like it’s inevitable. We are inevitable.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:13:43] What did you think, though? Here’s what I thought was different about this movie. And I will give it to you. I will I will give it to.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:51] The sharks were the most interesting and compelling characters?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:13:54] No, it was that. I will give this to Bait. There were sharks. Plural. Oh, yeah, I really yes. I was like, oh, I don’t think I’ve seen a movie like this where we are focused on two different sharks.

 

Paul Scheer [00:14:10] If that’s your biggest take away of what makes this movie good.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:15] So cool that this movie had two sharks.

 

Paul Scheer [00:14:17] And they were so different. Their personalities. There’s shark one in.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:14:21] The one in the car park.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:22] Here is we’ve got an upstairs shark. We also have a downstairs shark. Not to brag.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:14:27] And both seeming equally enraged and out for blood.

 

Paul Scheer [00:14:31] Oh yeah, because they’re sharks.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:14:33] They are sharks after all.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:14:34] Eating any of the literal hundreds of water soaked corpses that are floating in both sets of water, not interested in those. They would like to jump up on top of cars if possible, and try and get the dog. You know what people never say in this movie? Shark. They just say, get out of the water. Both times when sharks are there, he’s screaming, get out of the water! Get out of the water! Anytime the shark comes closer, get out of the water. Get out of the water! He never switches to “shark”. It’s almost like you’re not allow to say shark like you’re not allowed to say fire.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:15:16] That would make me move. And I will say in the opening scene of this movie, he is on the beach while his brother, soon to be brother in law, is out in the water, about to be eaten by a shark, and one of the lifeguards screams, get out of the water like code something or other. He could not move any slower.

 

Paul Scheer [00:15:35] Yeah, well, he’s hung over.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:37] Yeah, because it was his engagement party. Because he is going to be married to this guy’s sister.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:15:43] Tina, you know, call her by her name. Thank you.

 

Paul Scheer [00:15:46] Josh and Tina.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:47] I’m trying to call her by my name, but that’s okay.

 

Paul Scheer [00:15:49] Josh and Tina. Romeo and Juliet. They just go together.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:15:53] Star crossed lovers?

 

Paul Scheer [00:15:53] Yes. They are. I mean, this is. But they try to put so many different people in this supermarket. You have a you have a robber in the supermarket. You have the guy who is like.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:16:02] You have two.

 

Paul Scheer [00:16:02]  Two.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:16:03] Oh, yeah, two sharks and two criminals.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:07] Nip tuck has never seen his bank robbing partner’s face? Because that guy’s there the whole time.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:16:16] No, because Nip Tuck, here’s what’s so crazy. The fact that they put all of this into the movie. Nip Tuck establishes in the car that he is there because he’s being blackmailed by the other guy.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:30] Oh, I missed that.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:16:31] Am I right? Audience. Anybody who say this movie. Thank you.

 

Paul Scheer [00:16:35] It’s one last job. You’re going to get a $150 and then you’re out. You don’t know me anymore.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:42] Once again, you have one last job is a supermarket. When you’re one last job is like, I’m telling you, we’re going to hit the stop and shop, and then we’re out of here. Everything’s gonna be gold. And if we can, we’re gonna knock over the Osco drug. Then we’re going to hit the weight and pantry. These are New England specifics.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:04] Crime in this movie is bizarre because there’s a girl who steals sunglasses, and they treat her like she’s stolen thousands of dollars. Like, finally I got you for, supermarket sunglasses? How much is that?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:17:21] And some toiletries.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:23] Well, the supermarket is it. We’re so focused again. I don’t need this tsunami story to be from the point of view of the people who are trapped in this supermarket. I wish we had, like, to, like, watch them all die and then pulled out and gone to interesting people. No? Nantucket loves these people. Okay.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:17:44] What you. What you’re right about is there is there’s one supermarket worker, I can’t remember her name.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:50] And she seems to have a story that we get into.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:17:53] Never, never saw. I don’t know if it was left on the editing room floor, but she ends up with Nip Tuck at the end. Yeah, and they seem to.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:59] Have a chemistry.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:00] Yes, she is used as live bait. But the funniest part? We know nothing about this woman. We see her briefly in the beginning, doing her job, restocking whatever.

 

Paul Scheer [00:18:11] And the best time to fall in love is during a shark attack.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:13] Always, always. But my favorite thing was when Nip Tuck asks her. Because before the tsunami hits, a woman is murdered in the stop and shop. Yeah, murdered in cold blood.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:24] For the wealth of that supermarket’s daily take. And these aren’t even Nantucket prices. It’s not like they had to ship all this stuff over to Nantucket, and it’s at a premium. They’re not paying $6 for a bag of chips. Real story. Get it together.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:49] My favorite.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:51] Grow your own chips.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:18:54] My favorite thing about this movie is that this poor woman again. We don’t learn a thing about her. We don’t know what she likes. We don’t know what she dislikes. And then in the middle of the movie, she’s on top of one of the, you know, aisle things. And our good criminal Nip Tuck says, hey, did you know, did you know Julie, the woman who was murdered? And she goes, yeah, but I didn’t know very well we weren’t friends. It’s like, wow, we couldn’t even. The movie wouldn’t let this poor woman even have a connection? Grieve a friend?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:31] She had to be like, you’re cute. Fuck her. She should be dead. I’m horny and about to die from sharks. So good luck. Julie, get out of here.

 

Paul Scheer [00:19:42] From a screenwriting perspective, it’s an odd choice to write because it’s sort of like. Do you know her? No. Or. Yeah, she’s not kind of.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:19:51] She’s like I knew her but not well.

 

Paul Scheer [00:19:52] Not well. I mean, I know her face, but I don’t know her name. She has like the cool keychain. I would say, oh, nice keychain. And she’s like, oh, thanks. And but, you know, that’s all. I know her from. It’s such a weird.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:05] I would love it if everybody who talked about Julie was like, she had a son. Just like heartbreaking specifics, like real sad specifics. Because that guy, the creepy guy, the guy who ends up being revealed to be the murderous robber from before, who we think is dead. But he’s now been alive with our crew the whole time. He mysteriously doesn’t talk for like an hour and 15 minutes of the movie. And then when he does talk, I’m like, oh, this movie has a Quint from Jaws? This movie has a straight lunatic in it, and it’s this guy and everything he’s saying he’s like, sharks are only curious about one thing if we have food or not. Now that is an Australian accent that you cannot have any problems with.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:20:49] No. It’s. Did you do the dialect coaching for the movie?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:53] I listen, I worked with the Hemsworths. I’m not going to say which one.

 

Paul Scheer [00:20:56] Really? Wow. All right.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:57] All of them. I worked with all the Hemsworths.

 

Paul Scheer [00:20:59] Chad Hemsworth. Hemsworth, the fifth Hemsworth. I’m trying to get into movies, too.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:06] Here’s a question again, so many questions about this supermarket.

 

Paul Scheer [00:21:11] You don’t even want to go to the car park?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:13] I know I’m not ready to go to the car park.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:15] What’s going on in the car park is so nuts.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:17] There’s wait, wait.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:19] There’s a movie happening upstairs, and then there’s a spoof movie of that movie happening. I think the downstairs  is a spoof movie. Is the scary movie to the scream upstairs.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:32] Absolutely. Oh, gosh. The car park. Well, and by the way, everything, everything insane that’s happening at the car park before the tsunami hits is happening at, I would say roughly 10 a.m.. Yeah. So know that people are having sex. People are pull out like machine guns?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:50] Yep.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:21:51] People are getting ready to stage an armed robber. It’s. And this is all happening in broad daylight. Lots of lights. It’s not a dark car park.

 

Paul Scheer [00:22:00] All I want is the car that they drive that’s parked in the car park that does not leak at all. They stay in this car like it’s an airtight chamber.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:11] And they’re cutting from the chaos of upstairs into the joke scene that is them in a hermetically sealed car, like. Babe, what’s going on? Then it says, and she’s like, oh, that’s it. And it is. It’s so crazy in juxtaposition to what’s happening upstairs, because you are constantly seeing people upstairs get chomped in half.

 

Paul Scheer [00:22:31] And in here you have two dumb blonds and a small dog. Yeah, like they have a dog who is a very big part of this movie.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:22:39] Are you referring to Bully?

 

Paul Scheer [00:22:41] Yes. Bully.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:22:43] Let’s call him by his name.

 

Paul Scheer [00:22:44] Played by three different Pomeranians. One for swimming, one for barking and one for running.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:53] Oh my God, a lot of I will say, and this is again, I know you said for people to when we ask for things to not be said, please don’t say it or repeat it. But a lot of parts that I’ve played have also been played by three Pomeranians.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:23:07] Here’s the thing I really do want to understand where where you both net out on bullies attempted murder. So there’s a scene in this movie. Yeah. Where this guy, that.

 

Paul Scheer [00:23:21] One of the blonds, the main blond.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:23:23] Is swimming toward a car holding Bully, and the shark is headed toward him and his girlfriend, and he throws Bully toward the shark.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:34] No away from him.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:23:35] Away from him.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:36] Away from him to divert the shark.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:23:38] Yes.

 

Paul Scheer [00:23:39] Do you think a shark is going to be diverted by a Pomeranian? That’s like a steak and an olive. It’s like. Well, I. I want to go after the steak.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:49] Here’s what I’m willing to say. I would have done the same. Full stop. I would absolutely have thrown the dog as far away from me as possible in hopes that the shark would go after it. Absolutely.

 

Paul Scheer [00:24:00] I don’t even think the registers it.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:24:01] Everybody on this panel is a dog lover. Let’s be very clear.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:03] Honestly,  I would cut the dog open so that it bleeds. I would cut even if it was my dog and I loved it. I would cut it open to chum the water to distract the 12 foot great white shark that is now inhabiting the parking garage where I live.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:24:22] The movie sets up. The movie posits that this guy now needs to die. Must die because he threw the dog.

 

Paul Scheer [00:24:30] They tried to kill my guy immediately. The first time we meet him, before a parking lot is flooded with water, before they’re in death grip. He takes the dog and just chucks it in the back seat, just like throws that dog in the back, and then writes something dirty in a text message at the girl, like the girl is having it. Yeah. So the girl is having a text message and he takes her phone and then types in, I guess the equivalent of want to fuck, but he doesn’t say it to her and she’s like, oh, you’re dirty.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:25:01] And he sent that to someone.

 

Paul Scheer [00:25:03] Oh did he?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:25:04] Well, who is she texting?

 

Paul Scheer [00:25:05] I thought he just wrote it and didn’t send it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:11]  But also, who cares about any of what, like I couldn’t. Again, these are people that should have died immediately.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:25:18] Yeah.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:20] Justice for Bully. I’m glad the Bully makes it out alive. But, like, I would have liked it if in the movie we were with Bully for the whole movie. The character point of view of the dog while the dog watches everybody else foolishly get killed.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:25:33] I will say Bully is 1,000% the most interesting character in the movie.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:37] And the most emotionally realized. And the best performed.

 

Paul Scheer [00:25:43] Well, because there’s three of them. I mean, now there’s only two nip tucks, one that did talking, one that did swimming.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:50] The moment though, where Bully we realize Bully is actually not dead, even though he’s been thrown in the water as chum and he floats by on, I think, a surfboard. It was a it was the only moment in the movie where I went, oh, I was so relieved and excited and surprised. I was like, that’s filmmaking.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:12] Yep. That’s on display here at the Nantucket Film Festival. Film making. That’s what we’re talking about. Like Bait. Question mark.

 

Paul Scheer [00:26:24] Let’s take a look at the dumb blonds.

 

Movie Audio [00:26:26] I can’t see anything.

 

Movie Audio [00:26:28] Just keep calm, babe.

 

Movie Audio [00:26:28] We have to get out of this car. I can’t stay here much longer.

 

Paul Scheer [00:26:31] What? You’re underwater.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:40] She is brain scrambled.

 

Movie Audio [00:26:42] Excuse me.

 

Movie Audio [00:26:43] Well, I need something with a point to break the windscreen. Give me your shoes.

 

Movie Audio [00:26:48] Are you crazy? These are $300 Gucci.

 

Movie Audio [00:26:50] They are going to get wet anyway. Just give me your shoes.

 

Movie Audio [00:26:51] No. I’m not giving you my Gucci.

 

Movie Audio [00:26:59] They’re not Gucci.

 

Movie Audio [00:27:02] Clue, you gave them to me for Christmas last year, and you said that they were $300 Gucci.

 

Movie Audio [00:27:07] Clue. I know I did, and they’re not.

 

Movie Audio [00:27:12] You what?

 

Paul Scheer [00:27:13] I want to say something that’s going to be mean.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:16]  You’re now like, oh, we fucked up. We should have watched it.

 

Paul Scheer [00:27:19] I want to say something that’s mean, but why not? It’s watching these two. When you shoot a movie, you often have standards, right? They kind of look like the actors in the scenes. And whenever I watch them, I was like, oh, these are the stand ins for the two other people.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:27:37] For Anna Faris, yes, and Chris Pratt.

 

Paul Scheer [00:27:39] And Chris Pratt. This is this is their scene, but.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:45] They’re like where you go get the go get first team and they’re like, they’re not here.

 

Paul Scheer [00:27:49] Oh, they never got on the flight.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:51] So we’ll just shoot it with these guys.

 

Paul Scheer [00:27:53] We’ll use the stand ins. No one will know.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:27:55] But here’s the thing. The emote, the emotional reality of this scene is that every person in their life is probably dead from the tsunami. They’re all their family members. Everybody they know. Dude, they’re under six feet of water.

 

Paul Scheer [00:28:12] It could have been a water main break. No one knows.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:15] They’re acting as if they’re not, in fact, completely submerged in water. And there’s not a leak in the car. They should, at the very least, be like, this is crazy. This is crazy. What kind of car is this? We’re so lucky.  How is this even possible?

 

Paul Scheer [00:28:33] It should have been like brand. You know, brand placement like Fords are great. They never leak when you’re submerged in the water, you would think. But this is a movie where oftentimes you have these moments of like, oh, my cell phone’s not working. Who are you going to call? Yeah. You’re trapped. Yeah, you’re you’re trapped. The tsunami has hit.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:51] Oh, yeah. That’s it. There’s nobody. When they pull back at the end, when they finally spoiler alert for those who didn’t watch it, some of them make it out. When they finally do. The world is decimated. Yeah. And it makes every conversation these morons have had in the in the, the upstairs and downstairs seem absolutely foolish times a million. The tragedy that is before them is staggering.

 

Paul Scheer [00:29:15] And they don’t learn from it. They’re like, what does this all mean? It means we get a second chance. What? Everyone is dead and you’re like, whoa, finally.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:29:26] Everyone you know is dead.

 

Paul Scheer [00:29:28] Yeah. Like we can finally. Like, where is this gonna pay off? There is some they have. There’s no emotion attached to the world is over.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:35] They are able to. This is what is like wild to me about the movie is there is there are. There’s so much opportunity for the surviving people to make general like make efforts that will help them survive long term, be found and do all sorts of things. They somehow have the resources to create a shark suit. Okay, shark suit cage around one of the people that is weighted so he can walk on the bottom of the supermarket’s flooded.

 

Paul Scheer [00:30:08] Jason. Hold on. The shark suit cage is made out of a grocery cart, and we’ll show you what this looks like here.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:16] This is some A-Team bullshit right here. This is like. This is the A-Team. This is. When did they construct this? How long have they been there? This must have taken days to put together.

 

Paul Scheer [00:30:28] I mean, they have bent it. They have put sponges in to protect his shoulders.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:33] If they have the ability to make this, they have the ability to escape is what I would say.

 

Paul Scheer [00:30:38] Yeah. This suit is absolutely insane. And he is going to use this as a diving suit.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:43] Yes. They have they have managed they have managed to make it such that he can breathe underwater in a supermarket using elements from the supermarket he’s going to breathe under. This is like the he’s got a diving bell. They’ve created a diving bell.

 

Paul Scheer [00:31:03] He has cans of beer attached to his feet to weight him down.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:09] And for those of you who haven’t seen the movie. This man dies. This man dies.

 

Paul Scheer [00:31:15] But why did he die? Not because he was eaten by a shark. Because he runs out of air.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:21] Because he saves the day, and then it’s too heavy to get to the surface. That broke my heart.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:31:25] That broke my heart.

 

Paul Scheer [00:31:26] He also goes underwater to turn off the power which is underwater. Which means he would be electrocuted and dead.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:37] Everybody should be electrocuted times a million.

 

Paul Scheer [00:31:39] Yes. The water is. If you’re turning off a power box underwater, you’re going to be electrocuted.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:31:45] It’s just so hard. Because I was also heartbroken that he died, but I. And I want not that I wanted to be heartbroken, but it was it was hard.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:53] His was the loss that I was like aww.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:31:56] Yeah. And also one of the reasons why he can’t get to the air is because there’s not a full shopping cart, but one of the, like, half little baskets you bring. Yeah. You know, it’s on his head and he can’t get it off. And it was so funny.

 

Paul Scheer [00:32:12] They use zipties. They zip tied him into a death trap. These people are straight up murderers. They are more demented than the sharks.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:21] Element of this guy, in that he kind of has to go because he’s the new boyfriend of our hero. Australian Logan from Gilmore Girls’ ex fiancee, whose brother died in the opening scene. So now they’re estranged. They haven’t seen each other in over a year. And so this is her new boyfriend, and so he’s got to go. But then before he goes, he says to our hero, “Don’t worry. We never even fucked.” We never even fucked because she’s. She can’t get over you. So I guess I’ll go die now. I’m. I’m gonna I’m going to heroically drown having not gotten laid in the last year. Come on, my guy. What is happening? That rocked me.

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:07]  I also don’t know why.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:10] Don’t worry. We never dot, dot dot. He says. What?

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:14] I wanted our lead actor to be like, “Weird. Okay. Go.” Like it’s like. How do you receive that information? Yes. Oh thank you brother. Thank you.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:33:23] Also, like she did care about him. We saw her care about him. We saw her well up when she realized he was still alive. So then to see her.

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:34] She’s welling up because she’s like, damn it, I’m stuck with this guy now.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:38] Josh?

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:38] Yeah, well, she wants to get back with her old flame and she’s like, oh, this guy’s alive. I thought I had a new start. That’s why these people are psychotic. They’re like, oh, finally the world is over. So I can just start over.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:49] What’s crazy is this is new boyfriend, her new boyfriend. They have this whole idea they’re going to do where they’re going to figure out how to, you know, distract the shark, and then somebody is going to go and turn off the power. And he says, I have an idea. It’s his idea to create the underwater walking suit, which is not a good idea. It leads to his death, to be clear. So it’s a bad idea. That being said, he’s the character that I want to survive the most.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:34:18] Me too.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:18] Everybody else who died, I was like, yeah, get the fuck out of here. But him. I was like, oh man, I like this guy.

 

Paul Scheer [00:34:25] I want to go back to the good Nip Tuck guy. Good Nip Tuck villain, is seemingly like, I don’t know how he got involved, why he needs the last job. We don’t know what his crimes are.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:34:36] At one point, doesny’t he say that guy’s clean. I thought I thought at one point he was the older brother of our hero Josh.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:45] Wow.

 

Paul Scheer [00:34:45] No, he’s the father.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:49] The policeman is the father of the shoplifter. That’s true.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:34:52] Like it seems like whatever he had done in the past that he was being blackmailed for was connected to someone in the grocery store.

 

Paul Scheer [00:35:01] Okay. Someone says yes.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:35:02] I don’t know that that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:03] Oh, I love that we’re trying to figure this out.When we figure it out. It’s going to be unsatisfying.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:35:08] Oh, I don’t I don’t.

 

Paul Scheer [00:35:09] All I’ll say is this, though, for a guy who was clean, for a guy who is being on the straight and narrow, he has no trouble putting a giant hook through another man’s body and using him as bait. Now I understand the guy is bad, but that’s a brutal. Again, these people are more inventive in brutality.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:28] Oh this is after he has harpooned that man. Yes. He’s able. Once again they are on the there.

 

Paul Scheer [00:35:34] This movie’s all about parkour. They’re all on the top.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:38] This entire supermarket has flooded completely up until the very top of the. They’re on the top of the freezers or the aisle ends.

 

Paul Scheer [00:35:45] And we all know that grocery supermarkets have about 25 foot ceilings, so that’s fine.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:49] They have only what’s accessible at the top of the supermarket freezers and stuff like that, but they are able to construct it, construct the shark suit. He’s able to construct a full harpoon with a with a chef’s knife. And and then he just chucks it at the bad guy and it goes away with him like he never has that harpoon again. Like everything they’re able to build again A-Team style is incredible and then completely tossed away as if like, well, it didn’t matter anyway. Like if you told me the movie took place over two full weeks, I would believe you. Rather than I think the movie thinks it takes place in like 24 hours.

 

Paul Scheer [00:36:24] I was gonna say that movie takes place in about 87 minutes.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:36:27] I also, I am I mean, we already brought this up, but I am starting to really wonder why this supermarket sells so much rope.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:35] Yes.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:36:36] So much rope.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:37] So much rope they cordage beyond. They have all the cordage they need.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:36:40] Yeah. It was like there was a survival aisle like, here’s dairy, here’s meat.

 

Paul Scheer [00:36:46] Well that’s Australia.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:47]  I was gonna say that’s just Australia. Yeah. Where the where there’s rope in every supermarket and tasers can electrocute a 12 foot great white shark. He takes a police issue, regular Taser and just kills a shark with it. Absolutely not. No, there’s no way that single taser is able to destroy a full shark. No way. Come on. That’s like, unless the Australian. It’s like, this is their version of the Crocodile Dundee. That’s not a knife. I’ll show you a knife.

 

Paul Scheer [00:37:17] That’s not a taser. This is a taser.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:37:20] I know, I know, I’m really stuck on the two sharks of it all in the upstairs, downstairs of it all, but I did really wish.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:27] Do you think it is upstairs downstairs? Do you think it’s the. The aristocracy shark is upstairs and the servant shark is downstairs.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:35] Well, the servant shark goes first.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:40] The valet? The shark valet?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:37:40]  I did wonder, like, oh, a better. This is my only note for the movie. Otherwise it was perfect.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:46] Otherwise flawless.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:37:48] No notes. But I wish those two sharks had met each other. Yeah. Had met each other at one point. Yeah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:37:57] Wow. This is crazy, right? We’re just, like, swimming in the ocean, and now we’re, like, trapped in a supermarket. No. Weird, right? What are they going to talk about? I think the big sharks are like, we need to get out of here.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:06] No, why would they? They are feasting. At no point does anybody say like, I don’t think they’re coming after us because they’re full. They’ve eaten so many of us.

 

Paul Scheer [00:38:16] Well, here’s the other thing. I understand in a tsunami, the water flies in, right?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:23] Come rushes out first. Okay. Rushes as all the way out. And then.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:38:27] By the way, we never find out what happens to the surfer who ran out as the water is receding.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:32] Who is like, “Awesome.”

 

June Diane Raphael [00:38:34] Is he okay?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:35] Yeah. He’s like stoked. What an indictment of Australian surf culture. Oh cool a tsunami? Let’s go.

 

Paul Scheer [00:38:45] The water would come out. But why is the water trapped in a supermarket that’s not underground? I understand the car park. The water should have just receded.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:38:55] You think it should have receded back right away?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:57] Well, from the upstairs. From the first?

 

Paul Scheer [00:38:59] Yeah, from the upstairs.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:39:00] That’s okay. So here’s another thing that’s happened. So many stakes. There’s criminals. There’s a lot going on. Even after the tsunami, one of the things that they set up and never pay off is that actually the water’s rising. Yes. So I thought, oh, for sure, this is going to be the ticking clock of the movie that they need to get out of there before the water tick, tick goes up. It never does.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:23] No. And that only seems to matter to them when the rising water may hit the exposed electrical current. Which, by the way, if there has been a tsunami, the grid is down. Yeah, I suspect the grid is down. Well, there has been a tsunami that has conservatively killed millions from based on the those last shots, Australia is donezo.

 

Paul Scheer [00:39:46] So I want to show you this.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:48] It is over. RIP every Hemsworth. Donezo. Goodbye.

 

Paul Scheer [00:39:55] Let’s go to the audience. See if the audience has any question. People who have seen the movie.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:59] Can I ask you a question before we go to the audience.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:00] Yeah, please.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:01] When the shark. When the upstairs shark is swimming around for a period of time, does it have a baby on its head? There’s something on it’s head.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:40:10] It’s a woman. It’s a woman, and it’s a woman. I believe we clocked in the grocery store. Yeah. She is an extra.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:17] Is it like a. It’s like a hood ornament? Or is it like fuzzy dice in the mirror for a shark?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:22] I kept seeing, like what I thought was a baby swimming around, and I was like, wow, that’s fucked up. But okay, this movie is pretty grisly.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:40:29] It does seem like the shark is wearing her.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:32] That’s what I mean. Yeah, yeah, almost like the shark is like, trust me, I’m a baby. Because I thought they were going to be like, oh my God, we got to save that baby only to get chomped by the shark. Which seems to me to be such a smart move on the sharks part.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:45] I like when the shark put on the fake mustache and the monocle, it’s like, well, I’m just a shopper, too.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:50] These deals are fantastic.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:53] More rope, please. All right, let’s go to the crowd. If you’ve seen the movie, you have a question you want us to talk about or something that we haven’t talked about. Raise your hand. I’ll come to you. All right? Yeah. What, what thought do you have about the movie? What’s your name?

 

Audience Member [00:41:04] I am Thomas.

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:05] Thomas, what are you. What do you thinking? You have a question, a comment.

 

Audience Member [00:41:08] Am I the only one who was a little bit disappointed that that sultry narration from Josh in the trailer didn’t permeate the entire film like a Paul Schrader film or something?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:41:17] Oh, gosh, I didn’t hear it. I didn’t hear the trailer.

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:20] Yeah, he kind of talks about, you know, just forgiveness and shark attacks.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:24] I like that, I like that, and I love, by the way, only a film festival audience for a How Did This Get Made taping mentions a Paul Schrader reference like it’s a wouldn’t it be? Why didn’t you just want this to be like a Paul Schrader movie? I would have loved it if it was like a Paul Schrader movie, but unfortunately, we’ll never get that. Our lives are nightmares full of Schrader less nonsense like this.

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:51] All right. Your name?

 

Audience Member [00:41:52] Annie.

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:52]  Annie, what’s your question?

 

Audience Member [00:41:54] My question is not one, but two of the actresses in this film were from a very important Australian teen drama. H2O: Just add water.

 

Paul Scheer [00:42:06] H2O, just add water? But that is water, right?

 

Audience Member [00:42:10] Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:11] Wait. So add water to water?

 

Audience Member [00:42:12] Yeah, yeah. Two of the actresses in the film were teenage girls turned mermaids in H2O: Just Add Water, in which both the blond from the car park and the shoplifter, turned into mermaids whenever they access water.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:31] Wait a minute. Wait. Whoa, whoa. I’m going to stop you right there. Whenever they accessed water. What do you mean? Like, if they were brushing their teeth, they turn into a mermaid?

 

Audience Member [00:42:38] No, no, but if they were like to, say, take a bath or to go to beach party.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:43] Okay, when you say take a bath so long, how many bath shots are there in this show? Asking for a friend.

 

Audience Member [00:42:50] I would say shockingly large number of bath shots.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:53] Large number of bath shots.

 

Paul Scheer [00:42:55] I mean that’s the best way to access water is bath.

 

Audience Member [00:42:57] Yes. How much better would this movie be if not one but two of these characters, whenever they got in the water, would turn into mermaids?

 

Paul Scheer [00:43:04] All right, so the question is, and it was a long way to get there. A long way to get there. Thank you. A long way to get there. But would this movie be better with mermaids? Considering.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:14] Would this movie be better if it was in the H2O: Just Add Water Universe. Is the question, right? If they were their same characters so were able to turn into mermaids. By the way, I’ll give you $1 million to make a movie filmmakers. That is mermaids versus sharks. Never seen it.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:43:35] That’s a great movie.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:36] You know what  I don’t need that. You know what I don’t need apex predators in my supermarket. You know what I do want? Ariel fighting sharks. Fuck, yes.

 

Paul Scheer [00:43:46] Shark tale meets Little Mermaid. I’m ready for it. Okay. Yes, sir. Your, your name and your question.

 

Audience Member [00:43:52] Adam Dred and I may be old, but I could not tell any of the teenage protagonist males apart.

 

Paul Scheer [00:43:58] You know what was an issue that I had, too. I was also confused by the two main dudes.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:44:04] Because upstairs and downstairs. Our upstairs hero and our downstairs hero were both equally unappealing.

 

Paul Scheer [00:44:11] Well, but also, I’m talking about the two upstairs.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:44:14] They had nothing going on behind the eyes. There was no difference and they gave us nothing, so it was really hard to tell them apart.

 

Paul Scheer [00:44:23] I like it when people have like a mustache or shaved head because then I go, that’s that person. But I felt like this movie, there were two young guys in the top, right?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:44:34] I think we were being told that our down. We were being told over and over that our downstairs hero was a nerd.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:41] Yeah, he’s getting bullied.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:44:43] He’s getting bullied, but he didn’t seem like a nerd.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:47] Freak boy, are they calling him freak boy?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:44:48] Like history boy, I don’t know what they were calling him.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:50] I couldn’t quite figure it out, but I agree, and I think that we all have. It’s not about being old. I believe this is a general white guy blindness to the whole movie.

 

Paul Scheer [00:45:04] And that’s why there’s multiple Hemsworth. We don’t know. Maybe there’s one. Maybe they’re not even related.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:09] It’s true. You never know which one you’re getting.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:11] I also have to say, so many of the men had moments of heroics and were throwing themselves toward the sharks and trying to do the best they could to protect the crew. The most unappealing crew you ever did imagine where you did want these people to die.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:27]  I was rooting for the sharks.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:29] I know, but they only gave one woman one moment.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:33] Yeah.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:34] And it was really like, there’s so many women here. Can one of them try one?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:39] Oh, yeah. No. Only Jessie, only Jessie has like, Jessie, right?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:43] Jamie.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:44] Jamie. Sorry. I’m part of the problem. I can’t even remember her name.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:45:47] Yes, you are.

 

Paul Scheer [00:45:48] All right. Your name, your question.

 

Audience Member [00:45:50] My name is Michael. And, if we take this movie on a serious note as a.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:55] Okay, everybody, Michael wants us to. Hang on. If everybody could fucking. I know we’re having fun. Michael wants us to take this part very seriously.

 

Audience Member [00:46:05] If you take this movie as a cautionary tale. And here we are in Nantucket. And if that tsunami were to hit right now and come through this room, I can’t help thinking about the guy in the cage.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:17] What do you know?

 

Audience Member [00:46:18] I want to know. I want to know how the three of you would react.

 

Paul Scheer [00:46:23] Good question.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:24] Oh, great. Great news. I would die instantly. I am not strong in the water, so I would die so quick. I think I would be dunzo pretty quick. I think I could do okay if it was a mountain situation. Yeah. Water though. It’s over for your guy. I’m like glug glug glug goodbye.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:46:43] And I’m looking around and I’m like, those lights at the casino. That’s all rope for me. Yeah, I’m taking all that down. I’m swinging

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:52] There is a lot of climbable space I’m noticing. So that would and I would maybe.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:46:57]  I could swim for a while, I’d be okay.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:01] And I would feed every single one of you to the sharks, whether you were living or dead. And I would do it without a second. Like I wouldn’t give it a second thought. I’d be like.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:47:15] And you have some loved ones in the audience.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:16] Yes, these are gold ticket havers. Feed them to the sharks.

 

Paul Scheer [00:47:21]  I carry.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:27] Except for anybody who bought Paul’s book. You guys can be cool.

 

Paul Scheer [00:47:29] Thank you so much. I carry a Pomeranian in my bag at all times. For moments like that, just for Bait.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:37] Just to toss it aside and be like, go after that.

 

Paul Scheer [00:47:40] All right. Your name, your question.

 

Audience Member [00:47:42] Yes. I’m Philip. So there is a very strange detail early on in the film that I’m wondering, I’m wondering if it has broader implications for how we’re supposed to interpret the film. But I’m wondering if in the first few minutes of the film, whether you noticed the hangover cure that the brother in law brought to the main character, did you guys notice that?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:06] Yeah, sure.

 

Audience Member [00:48:06] The the Mason jar with, like, plant life at the bottom.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:09] Like algae or something.

 

Audience Member [00:48:11] I’m 90% sure there were tiny little fish floating around and swimming in it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:15] It did seem like the hangover cure was like what it looked like was like a mason jar full of ocean water and. And algae. Yes.

 

Audience Member [00:48:23] I’ve got a theory. Well, I’ve got a theory.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:48:25] Is it a Jacob’s Ladder scenario?

 

Paul Scheer [00:48:27] He’s got a theory. He’s got a theory.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:29] If it’s a Jacob’s ladder scenario, I’m going to be pissed off, Paul.

 

Paul Scheer [00:48:31] Yeah. No, he’s got a theory. Here we go.

 

Audience Member [00:48:33] Okay, maybe there is a psychoactive substance. And the rest of the film is is an abstract.

 

Paul Scheer [00:48:44] So Jacob’s Ladder.

 

Audience Member [00:48:45] Say David Lynchian-esque.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:50] Jacob’s Ladder-esque.

 

Audience Member [00:48:50] Of the commitment of marriage.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:54] Jacob’s…

 

Audience Member [00:48:55] What what Eraserhead does for the anxiety surrounding.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:01] Scenario.

 

Audience Member [00:49:02] What this movie does for the anxiety surrounding marriage. Thank you.

 

Paul Scheer [00:49:05] Wow, what a way to get a Jacob’s Ladder Scenario out.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:09] For you. This movie exists in a world in which his greatest fear is getting married.

 

Paul Scheer [00:49:17] And I like that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:18] And the rest of it is like, oh yeah, I would so much rather than get married, I would rather watch everyone be eaten by sharks.

 

Paul Scheer [00:49:26] All right, let’s see, sir, your name, your question.

 

Audience Member [00:49:29] Thanks. My name’s Scott. I’m not necessarily speaking from experience, but I don’t believe you can be arrested for shoplifting if you put things in your jacket and then go into the back of the store and sexually assault one of the associates.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:49:40] Well, but what about in Australia?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:43] Yes. Are you an expert in Australian law?

 

Audience Member [00:49:45] I believe that it’s not the law.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:46] Oh. In Massachusetts, you can do whatever the fuck you want.

 

Paul Scheer [00:49:50] I think what you’re saying, though, is right. You can’t be called for shoplifting until you leave the premises, right? You could have an.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:57] Oh, no, no, no. I’m sorry though if you see people put pocketing stuff, you can you can pull them. They don’t have to exit the store, do they?

 

June Diane Raphael [00:50:06] And I also don’t worry about how I know this too. But you have to exit the store because it’s not considered theft because you haven’t left.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:14]  Okay.

 

Paul Scheer [00:50:15] You’re just carrying it in a different. Some people have a little.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:17] So sorry. So sorry if I can just get a quick show of hands. What was detained for shoplifting in this audience? The gentleman who asked the question. So it’s Scott, am I right? It’s Scott and June. Scott, June and someone over there who is foolishly honest.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:50:33] I have not been detained. I just happened to know my rights.

 

Paul Scheer [00:50:36] Wow. Everybody know your rights about shoplifting. Teach your children well. All right. So we went to the audience. Now, obviously we have opinions about this movie. There’s a lot to say about this movie, but there are other people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

 

Audience Member [00:50:54] Hi, my name is Laurie. This movie is doing something that I can’t explain. Everyone is wet and they all look the same. Every chomp of the jaw. There’s another floating arm. Sharks in the store. That is what we are. Groceries in between and a tiny dog. My five star review is up on amazon. What a strange episode of Nip and Tuck. We wish all these Australians good luck.

 

Paul Scheer [00:51:42] Amazing.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:51:44] Incredible.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:46] Yes. Imagine the bravery that took to sing in front of you. Great job.

 

Paul Scheer [00:51:58] So these are second opinions. These are five star reviews from Amazon. Okay. There are 2000.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:07] These are real. If you don’t know the show these are real.

 

Paul Scheer [00:52:10] There are 2084 total reviews. Okay. And 62% of those reviews are five star reviews. The average rating 4.2 out of five.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:23] What?

 

Paul Scheer [00:52:25] The first one comes from Manish, written in 2021. Manish K or Manish? I looked at probably manish, not manish. I learn, you learn. We all learn. Here we go. “We’ve all seen jaws, but this movie has much more to it. It has story, emotions, characters, everything stitched together so well. Outstanding effects. This movie is more than just a shark attack movie.” Title. More than just a shark attack movie. Five stars. oh. There. This one here is from Sam. Sam’s review written in.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:53:13] Our Son?

 

Paul Scheer [00:53:14] Our Son, written in 2013. “I bought this movie out of boredom and I was surprised how good it was. This is what you would call a well-polished upper.”

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:28] Wait a minute. I don’t call anything a well-polished upper. A well polished upper?

 

Paul Scheer [00:53:37] You got your comedies, your dramas, your well-polished uppers, your indie movies. You got them all. It could have been.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:44] I want to watch a movie, what do you want to watch? Something that’s like a well polished upper.

 

Paul Scheer [00:53:49] It could have been an A-list.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:51] Not a filthy downer?

 

Paul Scheer [00:53:54] “It could have been an A-list film if the CGI effects were higher quality, however, the special effects were passable. The storyline is great, and the actors all perform to a-list levels. The sets, wardrobe and props were very good. Overall, the movie is well done and there’s no drull. There’s no dry or dull areas in this movie. It’s a rare classic. It’s not just another shark movie. Don’t rent it. Buy it.”

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:28] This feels like. It’s like from the filmmakers.

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:33] “Remember, this movie takes place in Australia, so everyone has accents. In closing.”

 

June Diane Raphael [00:54:38] Do they?

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:42] “Because it’s rare to come across a well-polished, well-made upper that almost made an.”

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:48] Wait a minute. They use it again?

 

Paul Scheer [00:54:51] I give it a five star rating.” And the title. This movie is actually damn good. Five stars.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:59] Wow. That’s chilling.

 

Paul Scheer [00:55:02] Rafael R Layton writes this in 2018. “This is why I refuse to swim in the ocean. I won’t do it. I’m toothsome. I just know it. Second, this is fun. First of all, because not one of those irritating things where only two lovebirds survive. They’re all pretty darn clever about how they deal with the shark problem. They even manage to have a few funny spots. But hey, not all the comic relief has a happy ending. Fun movie!” Title. This is fun. First of all, five stars. This is not a movie that should make you refuse to swim in the ocean. It should make you not go to the supermarket.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:42] What is two? What does toothsome mean?

 

Paul Scheer [00:55:44] I don’t know.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:45] Can we get a definition on toothsome from a nerd? Chewy. Scott. Front row. Scott says chewy.

 

Paul Scheer [00:55:51] I won’t do it. I’m chewy.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:52] Shoplifter. Shy. Al dente. Says Scott in the front row.

 

Paul Scheer [00:55:57] Why? Why? Oh, because he’s he’s.’

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:00] You’re with this guy? This is your guy? Get out of here. Toothsome, Scott.

 

Paul Scheer [00:56:07] He’s too chewy. Is the reason why he won’t go swimming in the ocean. Any closing thoughts? Anything that we didn’t cover that you want to cover?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:16] Boy oh, boy. We didn’t need any of the first act. We didn’t need any of the life guards. We didn’t need any of the like. It’s enough that there’s two sharks in the supermarket. Again, a sentence that is in and of itself, completely bananas. It’s a supermarket movie full of sharks.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:56:37] It didn’t seem. It didn’t seem like our main guy had a vengeance against sharks.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:44] They seem to have a vengeance against him.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:56:46] I know, but he has had this terrible experience with a shark. And it didn’t. You never felt like he was there for payback.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:54] So this is about a heal. This is his healing journey. He needs to be healed from the shark attack on the beach.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:57:00] Because he was supposed to be eaten.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:02] By killing the sharks in the supermarket.

 

Paul Scheer [00:57:07] Despite only earning $800,000 in its home country of Australia, Bait 3D was a sizable success overseas, made 24 million, in China alone, made 2 million in Italy, and as a result of Bait. As a result of its success, they announced the film would receive a sequel. All right.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:34] So we’ll be here next year, right here at the casino, Bait 2. You’re welcome, Nantucket.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:57:42] It. It is an important message for indie filmmakers. Like, if you’re looking to get your film financed, throw a shark in it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:49] Yeah. Even if it’s on what you consider dry land.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:57:53] Throw a shark in it.

 

Paul Scheer [00:57:53] And now I’ll tell you this. This is the premise. Just a routine flight, one that’s carrying the world’s most.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:00] Hold on a second, you said flight. So you’re going to put sharks in a plane? I love this, yeah, I love where this is going. Paul. Please continue.

 

Paul Scheer [00:58:07] It’s just a routine flight. One that is carrying the world’s most vicious merchant of death and an assassin who will stop at nothing to ensure that his target is eliminated. Routine. Until the plane goes down in the middle of the ocean as a downed aircraft takes on water with every passing second, the surviving passengers and crew must face terror beyond reckoning. Their plane is on the brink of toppling into a bottomless abyss. Not only will the killers stop at nothing to secure their personal survival, but the rapidly disintegrating airplane has been infiltrated by the deadliest natural born killers on Earth. Sharks. Who does it star?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:48] Gerard Butler. Please say Gerard Butler.

 

Paul Scheer [00:58:50] Aaron Eckhart and Ben Kingsley.

 

June Diane Raphael [00:58:57] That sounds amazing.

 

Paul Scheer [00:58:57] They are shooting in New Zealand. Many scenes. And then Malaysia flight 370 happened.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:05] What?

 

Paul Scheer [00:59:06] And they said no. And they shut down production on Deep Water because of that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:15] So here we are at the Nantucket Film Festival. You guys, we need to get this back on track. This is important cinema.

 

Paul Scheer [00:59:23] And Renny Harlin was directing it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:26] Incredible.

 

Paul Scheer [00:59:26] So this was a movie that really did take up. Like the second one was going to be huge.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:32] What year was movie?

 

Paul Scheer [00:59:33] 2012. That was happening in 2014. The writer of this, they was written by this guy, John Kim, and they brought in Duncan Kennedy to help write. And Duncan Kennedy’s credits are Deep Blue Sea three, Deep Blue Sea two, and Deep Blue Sea one. So they brought in the man of the hour to add some more shark specifics.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:59:56] Movies that have sharks in them.

 

Paul Scheer [00:59:58] Yes, and this was directed by, the director of all the Highlanders. So. And Teen Wolf on MTV. So, would you. Would you recommend this movie?

 

June Diane Raphael [01:00:09] Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:10] Oh.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:00:12] Yes. This is something to see.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:15] Would you recommend it in 3D?

 

Paul Scheer [01:00:17] Only in 3D.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:19] I would recommend it. Yeah. No, this is nuts. This is straight crazy in a way that, inexplicably, we’ve now done a number of bad shark movies. Yes. This is one of the better of them.

 

Paul Scheer [01:00:30] It is. It should be. And I think it is a well polished upper, but I think it should. It should have been more of a schlocky movie. I think it would be more fun schlock.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:41] I’m sorry, isn’t Adderall a well-polished upper? Like, what is this?

 

Paul Scheer [01:00:47] Oh my gosh, I, I did enjoy it. I did watch it on 1.25 speed, which just gives it a little bit more speed.

 

June Diane Raphael [01:00:54] And that’s going to make it a well polished upper.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:00:56] Yeah, right. I would, that seems chaotic. To the limit. Like I can’t even understand watching this movie at a faster speed. Because so much is happening so quickly.

 

Paul Scheer [01:01:07] But you know what? I do think you’re right. This is a this is one to watch. And honestly, if nothing more than to help your cognitive skills to be able to tell different teens apart.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:01:19] Oh, no. It is like the the gentleman said back there. Everybody in this movie looks like everybody else. It is. Yeah. Inexplicable. Who’s who, who’s bad, who’s good. There’s. The movie’s doing you no favors. Except for, like, the hunky lead, who is again, I only recognized because he looked so much like Logan from Gilmore Girls. My least favorite Rory boyfriend. Just so you know, Nantucket, in case you’re wondering.

 

Audience Member [01:01:45] Do you like Jess?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [01:01:46] Yes, of course I like Jess. Also, Rory shouldn’t end up with Jess either. She should have an adult relationship with an adult person. Not based on who she dates in highschool.

 

Paul Scheer [01:01:58] We’ve gone too far off track. Ladies and Gentlemen, that is our show! I want to thank you all for being with us tonight.

 

Paul Scheer [01:02:08] Holy cow, folks. That’s a wrap on Bait. And that’s also a wrap on our 350th movie episode. Holy cow, 350 movies. I think June has remembered seven of them. I just want to give a big shout out to the Nantucket Film Festival for bringing us out there, Donna Kerry taking care of us. We had the best time. And honestly, I want to just say we did that show for an audience of people who I would say 30% knew why they were there, 70% did not, 70% did not see the movie, and they were still on board. And that’s the power of Nantucket. I mean, they are there. Just a huge shout out to Jared O’Connell ventured out to Nantucket to record that show. And I also want to say thank you to everybody in Nantucket who actually bought my book. We sold out of my book in Nantucket, which is amazing. And I have to say, I’ve been blown away by the reviews that everyone has been leaving on Goodreads and Amazon. Please keep them coming. It really, really helps the book. And, if you like the book, tell your friends about it. Pass it on. And, maybe I’ll come to your town. I’m going to come to Denver. I’m going to come to Santa Cruz. And How Did This Get Made is going to go to New York in November. So check out my website. Or How Did This Get Made? And you’ll see where I’m appearing. And if you want a personalized copy of the book, just go to my website and I’ll show you how to do that too. I can write your name. I’ll tell you whatever you want me to write in there. I’ll put it in there. I’ll put, Bait. Well, that would be a boring thing to put in there. Anyway. Now, you might be thinking, Paul is Hot Shark Summer over? Well, it was our last new movie of Hot Shark Summer. But if you want to prep for our final matinee Monday, our final shark film, well, guess what? Jaws 4: The Revenge is streaming on Peacock and that will be released on Monday. And like I said, people get your tickets for How Did This Get Made in New York on November 15th? You also can check Dinosaur out in DC in Boston in October at the end. More info on that very soon. Anyway, people, I hope you enjoy Twisters if you do stay to the end because I’m in it. And, anyway, if you have a correction and omission from this episode, please leave me a voicemail at 619-PAUL-ASK or comment on our discord at discord.gg/HDTGM, and then make sure you tune in next week for our Last Looks follow up episode on Bait to hear me respond to your messages and announce our next new movie. Plus, Jason joins me to catch up on all the movies and TV shows that we are currently loving, so make sure that you tune in. Remember, if you listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, make sure you you are subscribed to our feed and have automatic downloads turned on in the show settings. That helps us and we appreciate it a lot. And last but not least, I got to thank our entire team who the show couldn’t be done without. I’m talking about our producers, Scott Sonne, Molly Reynolds, and our movie picking producer Avril Halley, our engineer Casey Holford, and our associate producer, Jess Cisneros. That’s all I got, people. We’ll see you next time on Last Looks. Bye for now.