EP. 350.5 — Last Looks: Bait 3D

Paul Scheer [00:00:00] A virtual show, the intent to steal, and Renny Harlin is still at it. All this and more on this week’s How Did This Get Made Last Looks. Hit the theme.

 

Music [00:00:16] [Last Looks Intro Song]

 

Paul Scheer [00:01:04] Hello, all my upstairs and downstairs sharks. I’m your host, Paul Scheer. And welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Bait 3D, a movie that discord user Vinod S thinks could have been called “Super Sharket Sweep.” I tried to do it as fast as I could. Supersharket Sweep. Yeah that’s right. Great. Thanks Vinod for that alt title. And remember, if you have an alt title or tagline, submit it to us on our discord, our very active discord. I want to give a big shout out to our discord mods for running that place perfectly. I love getting on the discord. I love getting on my discord. We are nice people there. It’s good social media. So thank you discord mods. Thank you discord people and thank you Vinod S. Just so you know, in a little bit, I’ll be reading your corrections and omissions from Bait 3D. And after that, Jason’s going to join me. We’re going to talk about movies, TV, you know, how we do it. And after that, guess what? Yeah, you know the drill. I’m going to reveal the movie for next week’s episode. But before we get any further, I want to announce that a couple weeks ago, we started talking about a new theme song for the show and the theme song that you heard that brought us in today by the Action Jackson 5 is going to be the theme song you’re going to be hearing for a little bit. That’s right. Action Jackson 5 is the winner of our Last Look’s theme song contest. Congratulations, Action Jackson 5. We’ll be using your song to open Last Looks for the rest of the year. That’s right, you and Biden get to sail out the rest of the year. Anyway, I want to give a huge thanks to everyone who submitted themes to us. They were all amazing, but I especially want to shout out Matthew Fountain, the balloon Ride fantasy. John Cohen and Rob from Long Island, who had some of our other favorite songs. Now we may open up submissions again for the main theme songs. At some point we’re going to need something past January, but right now, all you musicians can just send in themes for corrections and omissions. Just chat, you win nothing and you can always send them to HowDidThisGetMade@Earwolf.com. Or post them on our discord but keep them short. 15 to 20s is best. Heads up. I will be in Santa Cruz. That’s right, I’m doing a little pop in at bookshop in Santa Cruz this August. Go to my website, check it out. It’s a free event. All you have to do is RSVP, and then you can come see me in Santa Cruz. Also, How Did This Get Made is going to be returning to New York City on Friday, November 15th at Town Hall. I think we’re down to just like 100 tickets left. But you go to HDTGM.com for the ticket purchase link, and I want to let you know we have a live show coming up, a not just a live show, a virtual live show. You asked for it. We’re going to do it a virtual live show. Get ready for it. And I want to say one more time, if you read my book, please keep on reviewing it. The Good Read reviews are amazing and the Amazon reviews really, really help. It’s been blowing me away. So thank you so much. And if you have not gotten my book as an audiobook or as an e-book or as a regular book, it’s called Joyful Recollections of Trauma. Jane Fonda liked it, Amy Poehler liked it, people have liked it. And I’ve found that people are giving it to their friends. And if you want a personalized copy of it, you can just reach out to Chevalier and go to my website, and you can, tell them what you want me to write in it, or some version of that. And I will write a personalized thing just for you, for the price of the book anyway. Oh, and, an important plug, whoever you’re rooting for, just make sure that you are registered to vote. That’s right. Get out and register to vote. It’s very simple. Just head on over to Vote Save America to find out if you are registered. That’s it. Just go and just find out that you’re registered. Have the ability to participate. Because when we all participate, everybody wins. And especially it’s important in the state and local elections. I’m a big believer in that. The website again is Vote Save America. They will make sure or you can make sure that you are registered simply by going to that. That’s it. That’s it. Okay. Very simple, very easy. I love, that I love it. Anyway, let’s go people. Let’s get into Bait 3D. There’s a lot to unpack. It is now time for corrections and omissions.

 

Music [00:06:00] [Corrections and Omissions Song]

 

[00:06:04] Thank you Dornheim for that theme song. Let’s go to the discord. Fun facts 47 writes “Why did Doyle, aka Nip Tuck, casually.” Thank you for reminding me of who they were. “Casually walk into the grocery store, face exposed, only to put a ski mask on right before entering the manager’s office. There has to be security cameras pointing at that entrance and throughout the store, so there definitely be video evidence of him as the robber. I mean, if this is his last job, it means he’s done this before. So it’s unbelievable that he’d make such a rookie mistake.” Now I get it. I get why he wouldn’t and I get why I get your point. Two I don’t know how to bridge the gap, because if he went in wearing a mask, everyone’s freaking out. If he goes in without a mask, he can sneak in. Maybe what he does is he doesn’t wear the mask, sneaks in, robs him, and then casually mixes in and then exits. Right. Maybe that’s part of the plan. I don’t know, I don’t know, but the Vitrio, aka the Bait Pomeranian, the poor Bait Pomeranian actually has a better theory than me. “Okay, nip tuck is not doing the heist as a last job. He’s doing it to get his brother out of debt with a psycho guy. When they stop at the car park, Nip tuck says when this is done, we’re straight. My brother’s clean, and I don’t ever want to see your face around him again. Looks more like nip Tuck’s brother was in a gang with psycho, and in order to get him out, Nip Tuck is doing the supermarket job on his behalf.: All right, I get that, but the mask is still in question anyway. We can’t figure it out right now. Blond monster writes “I can’t stop thinking about when the water goes away and the cleanup crews start cleaning up bodies. I mean, there will be one man in a metal cage with with beans and carrots duct taped to his legs. This cleanup crew has to be like, what the fuck?” You know what? If you’re going to go in a, tsunami shark attack, I think that’s the only way to be found. Anyway, let’s go to the phones. Dale from Arizona. What do you got?

 

Listener [00:08:12] Listening to your episode. Bait episode. Heard June say something. She’s usually spot on with their information, but she did say in this episode that in order to get charged with the shoplifting, you have to leave the store. I happen to be a prosecutor. There are generally also statutes that say that if you conceal an item with the intent to steal it, you can also be charged with the shoplifting so you don’t necessarily have to leave the store. Love you three. Love the show. Thanks. Bye.

 

Paul Scheer [00:08:41] Intent to steal. I like it. I believe you. You’re professional. I think this is really good. And Doctor Guts actually chimes in on the discord about that. “That, according to criminal defense lawyer.com, to commit the crime of shoplifting, all someone needs to do is move the property or exercise control over it in a way that is inconsistent with the shop owners reasonable expectations about how shoppers will handle the merchandise. However, store security often won’t apprehend a suspect until that person has left the store to make sure they have an open and shut case.” So do you want an open and shut case or do you want to go litigate it? Either way, let it be known shoplifting happens at intent. Another Dale from Toronto.

 

Listener [00:09:22] Hi, Paul, I’m calling about the live Bait episode. First, though I want to mention your book. I loved it, it was so funny, so unique, very poignant, so well done. Okay, so I have a minor correction and maybe a slight omission in the episode. You wondered why the water never receded in the grocery store, but when our hero was coming into work at the start, he entered at street level and walked down some stairs. So the store is definitely underground, or at least one level down. They also show a few customers using those stairs to get in, and then at the end, when those final hopes for humanity were trying to get out, they have to blast and work their way upward to get out onto street level. The omission, I think I was a little surprised they didn’t hear any mention of how freakin often that injured cop dangled his bleeding leg and feet over the edge of the shelving, knowing a chum loving Great White has been circling just below the whole time. But again, maybe they didn’t cover that in his police training, I don’t know. So thanks for keeping us all laughing. Hope to see you, June and Jason at a live show one day and justice for Bowie. Thanks. Bye bye.

 

Paul Scheer [00:10:45] Dale. Thank you so much for the lovely things that you’ve said about my book. And you know what? Yes, if you say nice things about my book, you are going to get on the show. That’s fine and fair. Okay, so, yes, I agree with you. That cop was stupid to dangle that leg there. Blood does attract a shark, we know that. Most people know that if you’re not even in the shark world, in the shark world, we know it from movies. Anyway, I guess you’re right. There was downstairs to get in this door. We didn’t call it out, so. I’m sorry. And finally, this next call is from anonymous. But because we already had two Dales, let’s make it a third. Here’s Dale.

 

Listener [00:11:21] Hey, Paul. Since the premise of Bait was about sharks getting displaced by natural disaster, I wanted to call in and share, two examples of this happening in real life. So the first one coincidentally happened in Australia. There was a golf course located near Brisbane that had a very large freshwater lake in the middle of it as a water hazard. And at one point, a nearby river flooded and washed about half a dozen bull sharks into the lake. And because bull sharks can live in freshwater, they actually live there for a number of years before they were, presumably washed out back into the river by a subsequent flood. If you google Shark Golf Course Australia, you’ll find tons of videos and articles that that talk about this. And the second example, coincidentally happened in Massachusetts. And it took place in Cape Cod, where a great white shark, also presumably because of flooding, got trapped in a small saltwater pond near the beach. And that one too, if you just Google, shark Cape Cod Salt Pond, you’ll find articles and videos of it. So although the premise of a shark getting trapped in a grocery store is absolutely ridiculous. The idea that it can be displaced and trapped somewhere other than the ocean from a natural disaster, actually is viable. Thanks so much.

 

Paul Scheer [00:12:43] I get it, I get it. Sure. You know what? If the point is that this could happen. Yeah, you got it. But I’m also going to say that the shark would have had to have gone through a door. Downstairs and through door. I mean, I get that the power of it may have displaced it or doors may have broken, I don’t know. I get it, the big old gear. Bad boys 4. Man I love Bad Boys 4. Anyway, back to the discord, Sean McB writes “Paul and June said that they couldn’t tell the two main characters apart, but the actor played Ryan from the car park, actually appeared in an episode of NTFS SUV and 16 Hop Street, which is our 21 Jump Street parody, which we became a spinoff of Filthy Sexy Teens or Filthy Preppy Teens is, I think, what we had to retitle it. Wow. Cannot believe that we did not recognize an alum from Nick Cannon High School there. Look at him. We should asked him. Well, I guess this is we gave him a start. He was very good. Just couldn’t tell the difference. Look to similar. Corgi herder writes “Some of the details of the sequel were mixed up. It’s true. The sequel.” Oh, this is about me. “The sequel was shelved after the Malaysian flight crash, but Renny Harlin didn’t shoot scenes with Aaron Eckhart and Ben Kingsley yet. The original project in 2013 was being directed by Alistair Grayson, before Renny Harlin took over. Later, the Renny Harlin project, now called Deep Water, is still actually alive with the two aforementioned actors. They were just shooting in the Canary Islands last winter. And here is a picture of it.” Corgi herder puts a picture of it up there. Right. So this is going to still come out. “There’s a fun detail left out to. The movie is being produced by Gene Simmons production company. Gene played the villain in two How Did This Get Made movies. Runaway and Never Too Young to Die.” Corgi. You don’t got to remind me of that. I love this. So many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one one winner, one person to walk away with the the best call. And you know, a lot of people brought up issues, but they didn’t nail down anything except for first Dale. He’s in the world of criminal defense, I don’t care. I like first Dale. I think first Dale gets it. Anyway, you get this amazing song from Homonym. Hit it.

 

Music [00:14:53] [Winner’s Song]

 

Paul Scheer [00:15:01] Thank you Homonym for that song. Remember, if you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up the discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM or call us at 619-PAUL-ASK. All right. Coming up after the break, Jason stops by to chat about all the movies, TV, and comics that we are both currently loving. And as always, I will announce next week’s movie. We will be right back.

 

Paul Scheer [00:15:24] All right, people. Here’s the deal. Every Monday. We like to call it Matinee Monday. And this week we have a really great episode, the 2015 action flick Dragon Blade. It stars Jackie Chan, Adrien Brody and John Cusack. We had special guests Daniel Radcliffe and Erin D’Arcy on the show. I love this episode. I loved having them on the episode. They are fans of the show, so they came prepared. And I want you to make sure that you’re listening in every Monday to find some of those back episodes that, have been elusive for far too long. Anyway, I’m getting tired of talking to myself. So let’s get Jason over here for a little just chat. Seth Chatfield, play us in.

 

Music [00:15:58] [Just Chat Theme]

 

Paul Scheer [00:16:16] Jason, how are you?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:18] You know Paul. I’m okay.

 

Paul Scheer [00:16:23] We’ve been traveling. We’ve been around. I got to tell you, we took dinosaur out to Portland and Seattle, and now we’ve been in Boston. We’ve been in Nantucket. It’s been a blast to be on the road a little bit this summer.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:35] It’s been fun to see all you fuckin gross monsters. All sweated up.

 

Paul Scheer [00:16:41] And I got to tell you, we are going to come back up to the Pacific Northwest. That was the one thing we came up there were dinosaur. People were mad that we haven’t been to Vancouver. People were mad.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:51] Really mad? Oh, because wait, is it 2019? When. Is that when we were there last?

 

Paul Scheer [00:16:55] Faithful findings, if that’s. I remember more by how long ago we did movies. So fateful findings. I remember that was at the Moore Theater in Seattle.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:03] So that was with that’s when the bodies hit the floor, right? That’s Huebel?

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:07] No, Bodies hit the floor is the Jason ten.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:11] Was also Seattle though, right?

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:12] No, that was at Largo.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:13] Oh that was a largo. But it was Huebel.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:15] Yes, Huebel.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:15] It was it was in Seattle. Am I wrong?

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:17] Yes. He popped in. So we released.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:20] I just had the movie wrong.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:21] No, it was 2019. You’re right. 2019. We recorded that, fateful findings in Seattle. So we haven’t been.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:27] So we gotta get back up there for sure. I loved the moore theater.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:30] Oh, that was so fun.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:32] I loved the Neptune Theater that we did dinosaurs at.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:35] They were great.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:35] The both the Neptune and the the. What was the Revolution Hall in, Portland. Gorgeous room.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:42] And, you know, they were. I just love those crowds. I love everything, and we had a great time up there.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:49] I didn’t care for the crowds, you know, hey, if you’re going to show up to a comedy show, show up to laugh crowds. I’m just kidding. The crowds were fucking dynamite.

 

Paul Scheer [00:17:56] I will say that the thing that has really thrown me into a tizzy is in Portland. Everyone there is so lovely. And my and you might even say there are two conscientious on some level when, when that one woman that we interviewed in the crowd, was talking about her find at the thrift sale.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:14] At the estate sale.

 

Paul Scheer [00:18:15] Estate sale, she and she said, you know, I got a lazy Susan and ope, I know we’re not supposed to say that anymore.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:21] We’re not supposed to say Lazy Susan anymore.

 

Paul Scheer [00:18:24] Everybody I brought that up, too is like, what? What are you talking about?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:27] I don’t understand, I understand I am insane.

 

Paul Scheer [00:18:30] I am for every kind of let’s, you know, embrace and change. But Lazy Susan feels like.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:36] Here’s the thing, here’s the thing. And I’m willing to say this. The Susans are lazy. Hey, man, you know, and I’ve never met a Susan that wasn’t so lazy.

 

Paul Scheer [00:18:45] And by the way, Lazy Sam, lazy Susan, whatever you want to do. I’m just saying we got. I love the idea. I also just love the idea of a lazy Susan in general. It’s a great device. Oh my. Getting that around the table as a kid. I love that idea that you could just get.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:59] When the first time I got a Scrabble board that was on, that was on a lazy Susan. Remember how incredible that was?

 

Paul Scheer [00:19:05] Oh, that’s that’s gaming.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:09] Yes. But those cities were incredible. Those crowds were fantastic. I had, after you guys all left, I stayed an extra day and had an incredible meal in Portland at Kann. Wow. Incredible meal. Thank you, Kann.

 

Paul Scheer [00:19:24] Oh, I love that. I, I really run to San Francisco. And I had a great time, and so I’ve just go and I will tell you this. You can hear my full thoughts on this. And, you know, it’s a couple weeks old now, but, I was on the filmcast and I got to talk about Bad Boys 4 which I texted you the minute I got out of the theater, because I believe that we have to cover Bad Boys 4 on How Did This Get Made. I really was thinking about it because it might fall into the category of thank God it got made. I don’t want to blow it out right now because you haven’t seen it. I know, but it is it feels to me like when that comes on VOD, it might be perfect because it’s got. It’s like Fast and Furious meets the, the R-rated ness of beekeeper. And you have these, like, two things that I think are really fun. And as an action movie fan, I’m very much on board.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:14] Yeah. No. And I, I mean, listen, I enjoyed the last installment, three. Right. This was four.

 

Paul Scheer [00:20:21] Which is sadly three is called Bad Boys for life. If only they waited.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:29] Oh. That’s so funny. But I like that, you know. Yeah, it really is. It’s so interesting. I it’s really interesting to be, you know, to be processing a Will Smith movie in, in a post slap world, which feels nuts.

 

Paul Scheer [00:20:44] It’s kind of funny because I think, in a weird way, watching the movie is like, why were we mad at him again? That’s like, I guess I understand, but it’s like when you look at the grand scheme of things, you’re like, right? It was the slap. It was it the best thing? I get it, I understand, but at the same time it was like in the movie does a really good job of oddly addressing it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:04] Oh, really? Oh, wow. Okay. I’m so curious.

 

Paul Scheer [00:21:07] Again, I’m not I’m not minimizing what he did, but I’m sure there’s an energy around the whole, like, even people writing reviews. Yeah, I mean, it was just a slap, I mean.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:17] Oh, God. I, I got I got engaged with this. I got a I can’t wait.

 

Paul Scheer [00:21:22] But don’t please don’t go to deep because I think when you see the way that they deal with it. Yeah. I mean, there’s a lot there’s a lot.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:28] Okay. But I’m excited to get into it.

 

Paul Scheer [00:21:31] Yeah. I would love to unpack it with you. Okay. So there’s a bunch to talk about. I know that you have not gotten a chance to kind of share what you’ve been up to, but, tell me what you what you have been looking forward to. What you’ve been watching, all that sort of stuff.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:46] Such a good question. Here. Let me look at my list. We are in a pretty fun time right now of some shows returning some new stuff that I’ve been watching. That’s just, I think, dynamite.

 

Paul Scheer [00:21:58] Have you watched The Acolyte?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:59] The acolyte? Yes, yes. Let’s shout out Leslie Hadley, fan of the show, past guest. Future guest. I will say she’ll be back. Don’t worry. We’re going to get her back on, written, directed. Leslie Headland, crushing it on The Acolyte. Absolutely fantastic.

 

Paul Scheer [00:22:16] What I love about Leslie is. And I read a lot of stuff online because, you know, look, the, online is a very safe space for creative people in the Star Wars world.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:25] Such a cool space. Especially Star Wars fan. Yes, it seems like that. Seems you know what? The internet is a pretty rough place. Star Wars fandom is safe, though.

 

Paul Scheer [00:22:34] Very safe. And, people would say I’d read people online going, she doesn’t know about Star Wars. I’m like literally this much. The person who knows so much, a person who wrote me an email when I said Star Wars came out and, I said, I think I believe I said, oh, yeah, Star Wars came out in 76 and she was like 77 as it. Yeah. Wow. All right. I was like got it. Note note taken.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:02] Love it, but she’s right. You know, I think she’s on it. She is somebody who has, like a depth of knowledge about Star Wars. That is incredible. And she is, you know, she is doing something. I love the High Republic era. I don’t know if you’ve read any of those books or comics or anything. So I’m so I’m so into this period. I love that we exist in a time without any dumb Skywalker as well, without any of the stories that we like. I’m just a little bit tired of exploring, frankly. I’m so happy to be hundreds of years in the past from those stories.

 

Paul Scheer [00:23:37] And I think you also have these great, people, I mean, that you love. I mean, whether it’s Carrie-Anne Moss, who I think is just amazing, Charlie Barnett, who, you know, from Russian Doll. So good. Manny from, The Good Place.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:50] Manny Jacinto is having a blast in this show.

 

Paul Scheer [00:23:53] Looks so fun. I remember one night I was texting with Leslie’s, like, number two writer out there, and he was like, let me just tell you, we are in the middle of a forest shooting a lightsaber scene to, like, oh my God. I’m like.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:09] Well, that’s the other thing that I like about it is there’s a lot of stuff that’s clearly real. You know, there’s been a lot of The Mandalorian, a lot of stuff that’s been coming out lately. The Obi-Wan show feel very much like they’re shot in the volume completely. Almost. Yes. And while there’s certainly elements of The Acolyte that are also shot on a volume, there’s a ton of practical. We’re out in the middle of a forest type of stuff. And that, I think, lends it like a real weight. And it’s got it feels. It just feels new. It just feels like new Star Wars stuff, even though there’s stuff that we’re familiar with it just like some of the planets feel new, the the fact that there’s so many Jedi in the High Republic era is also new and cool, and that the Jedi are kind of shitty. I love, yeah, I love like the I love how Leslie is framing the Jedi. As you know, they are in a time of peace, so they are just kind of like assholes. They’re kind of like.

 

Paul Scheer [00:25:05] Yeah, they’re like.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:06] Entitled pricks, which is fun.

 

Paul Scheer [00:25:09] I mean, it’s such an interesting way that we’re attacking Star Wars right now. I know we talk about it a bunch on the show, but these outlier shows have been really fun. The one I realized I did not watch was, Ahsoka. I did not watch it, so.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:23] Oh, yeah. oh. You didn’t. Oh, at all. Oh, yeah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:25:26] I don’t know why. It just, like, missed me. I don’t, you know, sometimes you’re in these, like, little zones and, like, I remember seeing the billboards for it, and then I just. So I am going to go back and watch that as well.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:34] Yeah. And that’s the thing is like. And what I want to recommend, I, one of the reasons I want to recommend, The Acolyte to people specifically is and I really enjoyed Ahsoka, but Ahsoka really is an installment in a story that Dave Filoni has been telling for, you know, 15 years now. Yeah. You know, I mean, Dave Filoni created Ahsoka Tano, Anakin’s Padawan, you know, when she’s like a 14 year old padawan, when she’s introduced in the Clone Wars animated show, and now in live action, we see her much, much later in life. So that series exists in a space that really benefits. You having watched Clone Wars, rebels, Mandalorian, all this stuff versus The Acolyte? You can just turn on The Acolyte. You can have watched no Star Wars in the last ten years, and you can enjoy The Acolyte. You can have access to this story because it’s not beholden to any stories that have come before. It’s great.

 

Paul Scheer [00:26:34] Not going to still get June to watch it, but, at least I can try with that. I mean, I can, I can give a soft pitch. But yeah. So you’re talking about things are coming back. New things are happening, right?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:47] Oh yeah. Yeah I’m going to throw out I’ll throw out a couple of things just because I think there’s a lot of great stuff. Coming returning shows. We are lady parts. Season two of We Are Lady Parts is up on Peacock. Boy, it is just absolutely fantastic.

 

Paul Scheer [00:27:02] I feel like it’s getting a lot of press this season.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:05] Thank God I’m so excited. It’s it’s really fantastic. Everybody’s killing it. And the songs are great. It’s it’s really hard to do a show about a band and have the music makes sense, you know, in that way that it was always hard for like studio 60 or 30 Rock to try and perform sketches, and that makes sense. It’s hard for, you know, music and show, but these songs are great. I love We Are Lady Parts. Nita manzoor. Incredible. Incredible writer, director, creator. Just fantastic. If you’re interested in, like, the show, I’ve recommended it before, but please watch our movie Polite Society. It’s dynamite.

 

Paul Scheer [00:27:44] I’m excited about that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:45] We’ve talked. I’ve mentioned before this show. Mum is so beautiful. I think you guys would love it. It’s on BritBox, though, which. If you get it, great. It’s, Lesley Manville from, Phantom Thread and from a million other movies, and it’s just a beautiful, like, quiet British sitcom that’s really beautiful.

 

Paul Scheer [00:28:04] I feel like we don’t make sitcoms anymore. And that, to me, really bums me out. Like it’s like, yeah, there is like this. We are so content. We’re so excited to make these bigger things. Like we just sort.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:17] Of make things that are so that have more drama or more or less. The stakes are so big versus boy is in like something like Dead Pixels or Extraordinary. Aren’t these just hilarious? Yes, these are funny shows. Well, girls five ever. Oh is hysterical.

 

Paul Scheer [00:28:37] I, as a matter of fact, when I was in New York, Busy Philipps did my book event there. oh. She was awesome. We got to talk a little bit about that. It’s such a funny show. So funny. You know, now, I was wondering if. Because Danielle Schneider, she turned me on to a show called Fisk. Have you heard about that?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:54] Don’t know it. Never even heard of it. Okay, what is it?

 

Paul Scheer [00:28:56] So, so basically this, it’s basically a lawyer who’s very high end who, who is forced to take a job at, like, a local, like, shitty law firm like that you would pass in the street, after, like, a marriage breakdown and like, it’s it has elements that reminds me of, what’s that show that you are on the Mike white show?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:20] oh. Enlightened. Enlightened. Yeah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:29:22] It has. It’s like enlightened but lighter. It’s super, super funny. Yeah. Okay, great. And it’s Kitty Flanagan. It’s on Netflix. And they have like two seasons of it. It’s really, really, really funny.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:36] Oh, I love that. Okay, great. That sounds good. Anything else? Have you watched any of the Ren Fair Show?

 

Paul Scheer [00:29:42] No, because June said that she hates, Ren Faire stuff, so I have to watch that privately.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:47] Oh, dude. Get involved. You’re gonna like it. I bet June would like it. Only because it’s wall to wall characters. Like Tiger King in that it’s like Tiger King or it’s like any. It’s just you’re there for characters, not Ren fair. I mean, fair is the backdrop for a palace intrigue show. It’s fucking nuts.

 

Paul Scheer [00:30:11] Like Succession, right? So I’ll tell you this much. When I pitched Ren fair to June, she said, no, we’re gonna watch Hitler and the Nazis evil on trial, which is a new Netflix.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:25] Like a docu series?

 

Paul Scheer [00:30:26] Yes, by Joe Berlinger. Who did that. Yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah. And it and I was like, the last thing I want to do is watch Hitler and the Nazis. And I have to tell you, it’s very good. It’s very great because they do real life reenactments mixed with doc footage. But not real life, but they they have actors, and, it’s really cool.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:49] What’s it on?

 

Paul Scheer [00:30:49] It’s on Netflix. Okay. So, you know, Joe Berlinger did Paradise Lost, Metallica, some kind of monster? And, yeah, he’s also done these, like, other true crime shows like, Jeffrey Epstein filthy Rich in conversations of the killer. So, yeah.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:03] I love that. That sounds great.

 

Paul Scheer [00:31:05] It’s way better than you thought it would be.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:07] Okay, all I watch that, I like that we’re in a documentary corner, so I’ll throw a couple of other docs in the mix. Ren faire, I think, is a blast. It’s just fun. It’s silly fun. It’s characters. Characters welcome, USA. The Stax documentary, Stax Records documentary it’s for four episodes on Max is just incredible. Otis Redding, Rufus and Carla Thomas, you know, Booker T and the MGS. It is like a just nonstop litany of incredible songs, incredible footage that they’ve got incredible live. Performance is. It is terrific. I was very into that documentary. As into that documentary as I was. I did not love the Beach Boys documentary, so I can’t quite recommend it.

 

Paul Scheer [00:31:54] Well, I can tell you good documentary that just came out of the disappearance of Sherri Papini. Again. June’s bringing me into these things, but I don’t know if you know about this. Okay. This woman has this amazing life. Everything’s good. Right? And then she vanishes, and. And why she vanishes. It’s a it’s a real twist. It’s a real twist of a of a doc. It’s. Yeah, well, you know what? Let me just be honest. It’s a hoax.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:22] Wow.

 

Paul Scheer [00:32:23] So, it’s a kidnaping hoax. It’s very good. It’s very, very good. And and again, it, you know, sometimes I’m not into these true crime things. Sometimes I’m being forced to watch them. And, you know, I watch a lot, and these are the ones that pop up that I’m like, oh, this is better.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:40] Great. Okay, that sounds good. I will also throw into the mix. What’s the name of the thing that I just thought of? You said that and then. Well, I’ll throw, the the new I mean, Frederick Wiseman. Incredible. Like prolific, not prolific, but incredible, like, grandmaster of documentary filmmaking made like hospital and salesman. No, no, salesman is the Maysles. But it doesn’t matter. You know Frederick Wiseman, he has a new, documentary that’s like a four hour documentary about a restaurant in France. It’s called Menu plaisir. La trois grow. And it’s about like a family restaurant. That. And it’s just a true fly on the wall, beautifully shot documentary that’s like hours long about this restaurant and the and the the family that is, that has, you know, that’s owned this restaurant, runs this restaurant, the sons and the father. It’s great. It’s really good. I can’t recommend that enough. As well. The Inio Morricone documentary that’s just called anyhow is gorgeous and has great, great stuff in it.

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:44] Well, you know, you’re talking about docs, and I was thinking about this book I’ve been reading. It it’s a book about Elaine May, so it’s not a doc.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:52] It’s on my list.

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:53] It’s so good. I. Yes. So into it. I really like.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:58] I got the audio book. Yes.

 

Paul Scheer [00:33:59] It’s, I’ve been reading different chapters. Like, I just kind of have been jumping around and not reading it linearly in a way. This because there’s like, oh, I want to know about this. I want to know about this. Yeah. I love it. It’s really, it’s not as good as the Mike Nichols book, which I think is so.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:14] Mark Harris one?

 

Paul Scheer [00:34:15] Yes. I mean, that is unbelievable. This is like I think what I’ve liked about this is when I’ve gone down rabbit holes of Elaine May. There’s a lot of different things and like, okay, what is this? Okay. And and in this author, her name is Carrie Corrigan. Okay. She does a great job of, like, kind of distilling and getting the as much of the truth as it can possibly get, because especially when it comes to something like, Mikey and Nikki. Holy shit. It’s bonkers. What’s going on there.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:48] Well, those are such. It’s. Yeah. You know, Nichols and May couldn’t have been a bigger influence on me. Me and Saint Clair especially, you know, early on, you got albums.

 

Paul Scheer [00:34:57] So captured that vibe in so many ways.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:00] Yeah, they were they were huge to us, you know, and to me, you know, that that they then became these prolific writers and directors, in that era. But yeah, I, I’ve only just started the book, so I’m, I can’t even really speak to.

 

Paul Scheer [00:35:13] It’s just it’s really fun. And, you know, for me, what I was doing was, I hosted this thing at Vidiots. So I wanted to make sure that I had.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:21] About, about the book or about.

 

Paul Scheer [00:35:23] Mikey and Nikki. So I just wanted to, like, talk about it a little bit.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:29] Still have not been to Vidiots.

 

Paul Scheer [00:35:31] Oh. It’s great. Yeah. Truly, like a wonderful space. Some fun food, great drinks, great atmosphere. It’s really, really great. And what I’ve done there, I don’t know if I’ve ever announced this officially. I have made copies of things that have not been available to stream. So, for example, you can rent, or wherever, whatever they call it. They’re not renting. It’s a library. You know, it’s like, season one and two of Human Giant season two is unavailable. Human giant. You can get. And so I’ve reached out to a lot of their friends who have created shows like what has been pulled off streaming, give me DVDs, and we put them on a show. So we have a section there, full of weird things that you can’t find anywhere else that is not on streaming. So like, you know, so that’s.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:18] Let’s get let’s get Close Enough up there. Let’s get JG Quintel’s show close enough that I was on that.

 

Paul Scheer [00:36:26]  Yeah. And then yeah, that’s great because it’s like, then we’ll put it on the shelf and that that that to me is what we need to be.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:33] Oh, yeah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:36:34] What I really want is I want like a, a digital streaming library of everything that people can’t monetize because it should be available. It should just be available for all of us.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:46] Yeah. Like as a resource. Yeah. You should be able to pull up and watch all these things.

 

Paul Scheer [00:36:52] You’ll make money on it. But just let me see it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:55] Yes, I agree, I think that’s very smart. That’s great I love that. Oh that’s cool. That’s. Yeah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:36:59] So we’re trying to.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:01] I want to watch the Human Giants.

 

Paul Scheer [00:37:02]  I was so excited to have it out there. I was like, this does have something. I also watch MoviePass movie crash or movie crash. Oh.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:10] I started that. I got like half an hour in, I was enjoying. Yeah, I had to leave the house.

 

Paul Scheer [00:37:15] You know, very bare bones. Kind of interesting, doc. Like. Yes. It’s interesting and and, you know, I guess what I’m realizing in all these documentaries, like, what’s the what happened? Oh, rich white guys took over and decided to, like, higher. Yeah. Like, it’s like the stupid, like, of course it failed. Like it failed. Yeah. In such an insane way. Because it’s like the money was spent, like, stupidly and with no reason. I mean, it, yeah, it’s it’s comical. It’s like you always.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:44] No, no, I enjoy it. And it’s another thing that is just characters. Yes. You know, like all those guys that come in and and turn it into this disaster. They’re all such characters. They’re all such blowhards.

 

Paul Scheer [00:37:57] I mean, did you also, what did you did you watch jinx 2?

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:02] I didn’t.

 

Paul Scheer [00:38:03] I, I’m kind of mixed on it, but I also am like, man, that that one is really fascinating to me because Jinx is like. He’s like, okay, I think I know what this is going to be and you never quite can get ahead of him. It’s like, and it’s and there is still I feel like the problem with that documentary, in my opinion, is they didn’t quite give you the like. And we don’t know either. Like it’s sort of like I feel like at least it opened a little bit, like there are just things that you just don’t know. You can make up a pretty solid assumption on, but like, I didn’t find it to be as fulfilling as the first one it was as more time with this character who’s a crazy sociopath. I mean, you know, in many ways.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:41] How funny.

 

Paul Scheer [00:38:42] Yeah.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:43] Wow. Okay. But that’s. Yeah, I gotta I’ll at some point I’ll catch up with that.

 

Paul Scheer [00:38:46] I mean, one of the funniest things that I love it they do do a. They show a moment on the trial and they’re like, you know, did you kill so-and-so? And he’s like, no. And he’s like, if you did kill so-and-so, would you lie about it? Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:03] Amazing. Amazing. It’s like the O.J. if I did it.

 

Paul Scheer [00:39:10] I mean, but he’s also like. But there’s something about that honesty that is also fascinating. Dude. It’s like, of course, of course you would like, like, you know, it’s like.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:20] Oh my gosh, I love it. That’s great. I was going to say the other, one of the other things that I what is it going to say did I can’t remember if I shout it out, the Dave Attell special Hot Cross Buns?

 

Paul Scheer [00:39:32] Yeah, we talked about that.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:35] It’s great. Okay. Got it. Good good good. I really enjoyed that. I’m going to and then you know what? I’m going to shout out just a couple of, if you don’t mind comics. I’m loving Ed Brewbaker, our friend Ed Brewbaker, who is up at the Portland show, up in Portland filming his show, an adaptation of his book, Criminal. One of one of my all time favorite ongoing series of of books, to tune into his reckless books are still coming out and are fantastic. He had a great book called Follow Me Down recently that I liked. Batman Detective Comics right now. Gotham nocturne. Fantastic. Ram V, writing. Absolutely. Great. I’m really enjoying that. What else was I going to say? There was something else. Night fever. That’s last year’s Brubaker, book that I really like.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:26] We were just talking about the other day. I can’t remember the name of it. It’s coming to the.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:30] The body one, right? Is it, the body. What’s it called?

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:33] I love that book. Yeah. It’s.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:36] Well, you look that up. I’m going to shout out a couple of other books. Tom King’s penguin book is great, right now.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:42] Oh, I love that. That’s great. Yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:43] Where the body was is the Ed Brubaker.

 

Paul Scheer [00:40:46] Oh, I was thinking about Friday book one. Like they’re doing that three, the three books that really great.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:52] All the Friday books are fantastic. All the Friday books I love. And I will also, while we’re shouting out Friday books because Friday has a real Nancy Drew vibe to it. Some books that I love, the Hobb Town mysteries, that are also kind of Hardy Boys. Nancy Drew have also just come out in color versions. They were previously, not color. And so they’ve put them out in color versions and they look gorgeous. I can’t recommend that enough anyway. And it was great to see, up in Portland, Brian Michael Bendis came out to the show, at Brubaker, came out to the show. Matt Fraction came out to the show. True, like comics legends.

 

Paul Scheer [00:41:32] I mean, they were so fun to see them all. And I was doing a signing post-show, so I couldn’t be backstage hanging out with you guys, hanging out with all of them. And when they exited, they walked by the line to say hi to me. And literally it was like watching the Beatles of comics walk by. People were losing their mind. Because it was so they were just like, oh, and, you know, it’s like it’s. And I was also, you know, like, I love I, you know, I talk to Ed a lot, but I, you know, busy, Brian Michael Bendis. So I’m such a fan of like, oh my goodness, such a.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:04] And Fraction and like, that’s the thing, you know, fractions. Been doing that monarch show. Yes. The, Godzilla Monarch show.

 

Paul Scheer [00:42:11] Which I really, I think is really fun. Yeah. Kurt Russell.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:16] Wyatt Russell.

 

Paul Scheer [00:42:16] Yes, yes.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:18] Yeah. So it was really. That was neat. Great to see them. And all of them, like, fantastic. You know, the stuff they’re doing is just so good.

 

Paul Scheer [00:42:26] I love it.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:28] Yeah.

 

Paul Scheer [00:42:28] Well, this is great. All right. We will, talk again soon.

 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:30] All right. Good bye.

 

Paul Scheer [00:42:32] All right, people, I hope you enjoyed my chat with Jason, but is now finally time to announce our next movie. Next week we’ll be going from sharks that scowl to get ready for it. Farts. That’s right. Farts that are foul. Next week we are watching the 2002 classic Thunder Pants starring Rupert Grint, Paul Giamatti, and Stephen Fry. And to say Paul Giamatti stars. As you know, it’s true, I guess. Okay, here is, the breakdown of Thunder pants, which we watched. And we did, this is a crazy movie. “An 11 year old boy’s amazing ability to break wind leads him to fame and then death row before it helps fulfill his ambition of becoming an astronaut.” Yes, all this is true. Rotten tomatoes gives this film a 67% on Tomatometer. Yep. No problem there. There are only six reviews. That’s why it may be so high. Letter box user Alec S writes, “Thunder pants is the best portrayal of Great Britain I’ve seen in quite a while.” And the user crim BQ writes “He might be passing gas, but he’s certainly not passing the Bechdel test.” All right, let’s take a listen to the trailer.

 

Trailer Audio [00:43:42] Get ready for a film that will blow you away in an incredible story of aboy with a unique gift.

 

Paul Scheer [00:44:10] Thunder Pants is available to rent on Apple TV+ and Amazon Prime Video, but is also available to stream for free on our favorite library run streaming service, Hoopla. And remember, in addition to Hoopla, Kanopy and Libby are two more digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to consume movies, TV, music, audiobooks, e-books, comics for free. That is it, people. Thank you. Remember to rate and review the show. And if you listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please follow us. Okay. Get those automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show, okay. It helps the show to have automatic downloads turned on. It’s not taking up that much space anyway. Visit us on social media @HDTGM. And a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonne and Molly Reynolds, and our movie picking producer Avril Halley, and our associate producer Jess Cisneros and our engineer, Casey Holford. We will see you next week for Thunder Pants.