EP. 355.5 — Last Looks: Communion [June Chat Edition]

[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: Anal probes. Why June won’t play Monopoly Go, and we once again go into the world of M Night Shyamalan. All this and more on a brand new, How Did This Get Made Last Looks, hit the theme.

[00:00:20] Music: [Intro Song]

[00:01:08] Paul Scheer: Hello, all my little doctors. I’m your host, Paul Scheer and welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks where you the listener get to voice your issues on Communion, a movie that discord user Dove thinks could have been called “Close encounters of the probe kind.” Dove. Very good. I like that. Thank you, Dove for that alt title.

[00:01:31] Remember if you have an alt movie title or a tagline submitted to us on our discord and I might just read it on the show or I’ll scroll until I find a better one. So let that be a challenge to you. Step up, be a Dove. Um, all right, coming up on today’s episode, we got so much talk about. June Diane Raphael will be joining me today to talk about board game storage and more.

[00:02:00] Look, I’m going to give you some tips and tricks in just a little bit. So if you got card games, you got board games. You’re going to want to hear this, but more importantly, you’re going to want to hear from June. Uh, we are also going to give you corrections and omissions on Communion, a movie that I visited the set on when I was a child.

[00:02:17] I detail it in my book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma. So, I know a lot about this movie, so you got to really get up early to get one over on me. Plus, we will talk about, or I should say, reveal the movie for next week’s episode. But first, Do you live in Philly? Do you live outside of Philly? Well, come to see us on November 16th at the Miller Theater.

[00:02:40] That’s right. How Did This Get Made is back in Philly and we want you there. So go to Hdtgm. com to get your tickets and. My group with Jason, we do improv, Jason Manzoukas, myself, Nicole Byer, Carl Tart, Rob Hubel, Seth Morris, so many great people, Lisa Gilroy, Phil Augusta Jackson. We all perform improv. We perform under the moniker of moniker.

[00:03:04] We perform under the name Dinosaur, and we will be in Boston and DC on November 20th and November 22nd. Our Brooklyn shows are already sold out. So you can come see us in person. In Boston and DC every night is a different show. Um, and what a cast, what a fun time. All right, people. Let’s get into it. All right.

[00:03:26] Last week, we talked at length about Communion. Well, we had questions and we might have even missed a few things, although I doubt it, here is your chance to set us straight fact, check us if you will. It is now time for corrections and

[00:03:39] omissions.

[00:03:41] Music: Corrections and Omissions song]

[00:03:52] Paul Scheer: Thank you, Chris Cheney, for that amazing theme song. Let’s go to the discord, Mitch Kappa.

[00:03:59] Oh my God. Am I just getting this right now for the very first time that you are Mitch Kappa from the movie Old, I love it. “Um, per the flashback to young Whitley, it seems like the aliens have been around for a minimum of 35 years and presumably have been abducting people throughout that entire time.

[00:04:19] Are they learning anything new from the anal probe thing at this point?” Well, Mitch, Chunkstyle, that’s not for us to figure out. Maybe they’re just, maybe that’s how they clone people. Maybe they need something from up in the butt. We don’t know. We don’t know what that probe does. Could be getting DNA, could be analyzing things, could be, uh, for a human farm on a different planet.

[00:04:44] Mitch, don’t question the probe. Uh, anyway, uh, let’s move away from probing and get to Danny the Wall, who writes, “So, the bit with Whitley smelling the creature isn’t improv. In the original book, it’s an important detail for Whitley, who writes about how he felt when panicked when they were examining him and they asked, what can we do to make you feel more comfortable?

[00:05:07] And he replied, he wanted to smell them. The scent was like wet cardboard and cinnamon and became a touchstone for his memories later and something that was likely meant to ground his experience.” Well, Danny, I appreciate that. And by the way, wow. But I think we were saying was Chris walking, kind of just improvised around that idea, because,

[00:05:29] those doctors weren’t saying like, Hey, how can we help you? He just started to smell. But yes, interesting. So I guess when, uh, Whitley wanted to go back to that time, he’d wet down some cardboard and sprinkle some cinnamon on it. Uh, well, there you go. Um, let’s go to the phones.

[00:05:48] Listener: Hi Paul. This is Ruben in Pacifica, California, and I’m calling about your meeting with Christopher Walken on the set of communion now famously Christopher Walken and his wife have been married forever, but they do not have children and in the movie Communion, Christopher Walken really leans into the sort of the dad aspects of his character. And I wonder. Do you think that he wanted to meet you as a small child in order to inform him about what his character may be like when he is in the presence of a child?

[00:06:31] Food for thought, and yet, another way that Paul Scheer has made the movie Communion a little deeper. Love the show.

[00:06:40] Paul Scheer: Wow. Ruben, you might be right. Maybe I was the son. I would be better than that kid in that movie. Fuck that kid in that movie. Yeah, that’s right. I gave him that juice, that father juice.

[00:06:54] That sounds weird and gross. Okay. John from Massachusetts. What do you got?

[00:06:58] Listener: Hi, Paul. This is John. I was actually in the front row for the Communion show and it was a great night. I have a question about the movie. What are the logistics of his anal probing because the doctors approach not only from the front but at a weird angle and Christopher Walken is clearly sitting down.

[00:07:20] So just how did they get in there?

[00:07:23] Paul Scheer: Again., We can’t ask questions about this probe. Okay, you don’t know. I don’t know We’re using our human brains. We got to start using our doctor brains about this probe. Don’t think of it so linearly. I mean, have we ever seen a probe that’s attached to a wall, like a vacuum cleaner?

[00:07:40] No, don’t put your human logic on this. Don’t wreck it, John from Massachusetts, come out to the Boston show. When we do Dinosaur there, I want to make sure that we set you straight. Um, all right, Alison, what do you got?

[00:07:57] Listener: Hi, Paul. This is Alison calling in regards to the Communion episode that just came out. Uh, I had the pleasure, trauma, of seeing Ritley Stryber present this movie live at IFC, uh, a few months ago, and it was unhinged.

[00:08:13] Uh, this sad little old man rambled on for a very long time about the chips that are still in his head, the meetings he has had with the aliens since the movie, Uh, and just in general how unhappy he was with Walken’s performance because he felt that he did not take Alien seriously enough and that he would rather have had Dan Ackroyd playing the role.

[00:08:31] My take is I think the movie would be cataclysmically boring without Walken because this guy was so up his own butt with the alien ness of it all that at least Walken brought some life to the movie. Uh, and he multiple times went off on how the pilot episode of South Park ruined his life, made him go bankrupt, and forced him to sell more than one of his houses.

[00:08:54] I don’t know. Uh, that’s all. Bye.

[00:08:56] Paul Scheer: Ha ha ha ha ha. Alright. Everything about that is absolutely amazing. Oh my gosh. You know, Dan Ackroyd would have been great in that role, but you’re right. He probably would have played it too dry. We needed to have some life, some energy in there. And I mean, I still go on record saying that this is Christopher Walken’s best performance of all time.

[00:09:16] It really is amazing. And I don’t know how South Park made him lose a house, but. That’s the type of person where I just listen and I shake my head. Yes. I don’t ask follow up questions. Um, but you know, Scott did want to point out that that episode of South Park, uh, is about Cartman getting an anal probe.

[00:09:33] So I guess, anal probes weren’t in vogue again. I don’t want to get into the anal probes. All right, let’s move away from it. Back to the discord Ghost Bag writes, “Two scenes in this film that disturbed me more than anything else. Number one. Early in the film, before Whitley starts typing on his Zenith computer, before it craps out on him, he inexplicably licks his fingers.

[00:09:53] The idea of Whitley getting saliva all over his keyboard made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.” And then, well, yeah, first of all, you’re right. That is a gross. Uh, and also, I mean, what to make his fingers move quicker. I mean, I don’t think he was like wetting them down. I think it was like, you know, just a quick.

[00:10:11] You know, you know, more, more of a, well, a lick is. He’s not sucking on his fingers. Anyway, Ghost bag continues “In the cabin the morning after the alien encounter, Whitley is placing pancakes on a plate by hand, not with a spatula, but by hand. And the pancakes were obviously not hot or even warm because he’s grabbing these things by fistful and tossing them onto a serving plate, which he sets in the middle of the kitchen table.

[00:10:37] So Whitley is serving his family and friends, cold pancakes that got his finger licking hand all over it.” Well, look, Ghostbag. I think this is going to go back to our, our, our friend Ruben, uh, who, you know, I think brings up the biggest part walking is not living that dad life. He’s not living in the world that we know.

[00:11:00] So we can’t expect him to understand how pancakes work. But I did notice that pancake scene because it’s so bizarre. Um, I get making pancakes for the table, but, uh, yeah. Yeah. All right. So many great corrections and omissions this week, but I have to say the one that really nailed it for me was the person who made me look at this movie in an entirely different light. A movie that I guess now I feel solely responsible for That’s right.

[00:11:28] This week’s winner is Ruben from Pacifica, California Ruben you get this theme

[00:11:49] That’s right nothing else just that theme from John Steele Thank You John Steele for that song and now everything comes together By the way, my book might still be on sale right now you Uh, it was on a major sale for Amazon prime days, 99 cents for the audible book. Holy moly. Uh, anyway, uh, so now you can see how everything ties together.

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[00:13:12] So keep on checking out all of our replays of our classic episodes every Monday. And without any further ado, it is time for a very special June edition of Just Chat. John Astonish, do your thing.

[00:13:25] Music: Jason and Paul, just chat. June and Paul,

[00:13:28] just chat. Tall John Scheer just chat. How did this get made? Just chat.

[00:13:34] Paul Scheer: June, welcome to a Just Chat. Always a pleasure to sit down with you here on a mini episode.

[00:13:41] June Diane Raphael: You know, I’m happy to be here. And I just was thinking about the name. Just chat. It’s just chat. Is it implies that on other, other podcast, like shows, other mediums that there you’re doing more than just chatting.

[00:13:54] Paul Scheer: Well, this is.

[00:13:55] June Diane Raphael: What else could you be doing?

[00:13:56] Paul Scheer: Well, but chatting is just our

[00:13:58] June Diane Raphael: Arent’ podcasts all, all chat?

[00:14:00] Paul Scheer: But maybe there’s a premise around that chatting, right? Like obviously how did this get made? We’re chatting about a bad movie, you know, uh, a lot of interview shows, they’re chatting about someone’s career or something.

[00:14:11] And it goes off on tangents. We’re saying this is full tangent. This is just. Just chat

[00:14:17] June Diane Raphael: Sounds like the Deep Dive

[00:14:19] Paul Scheer: Well we’ve been doing it longer. So, um, now, um, speaking of which, can you tell people what has been going on with the Deep Dive? Because I, uh, have been loving. Uh, being, first of all, a member, I, I mean, I’m also, am I essentially a staff member of Deep Dive?

[00:14:40] June Diane Raphael: Yeah, well, the Deep Dive of course has, we have our own, you know, auxiliary, um, sort of premium content over at the Deep Dive Academy so that the podcast exists and, um, and is always there for consumption.

[00:14:56] But then for, for, for people who just need more, they head to the Deep Dive Academy and, um, they can become students. Uh, and you are one of our, our valued faculty and published author and professor emeritus.

[00:15:12] Paul Scheer: I am so

[00:15:14] June Diane Raphael: You’ve taught many classes there.

[00:15:15] Paul Scheer: Very happy to teach classes there. I love everything that you’re doing.

[00:15:19] And I also love, is it Friday at three o’clock when you go live?

[00:15:23] June Diane Raphael: Yes, but we’re actually going live today. Sometimes that that schedule changes a little bit, but we always update it. Okay. Um, Yeah. So, so you’ve taught, I was actually thinking the other day, Paul is like, Oh, I need to, Oh, of course. Talk about just chat.

[00:15:40] So Paul, you taught a class on snack organization and you revealed our snack closet

[00:15:49] Paul Scheer: At a point when I wasn’t even fully prepared to .

[00:15:52] June Diane Raphael: Then that was upsetting too. You, but, you know, I, for the listeners of just chat has made who don’t know this. I completely seeded the kitchen organization over to Paul and people were stunned by that when we moved into our new house that I didn’t have anything to do with the kitchen and where things were.

[00:16:13] The kitchen is not my domain, even though I cook more than you do, but I let you completely set it up. Snacks you have categorized into sweet. Um, salty.

[00:16:30] Paul Scheer: No, I, I don’t want to be, I don’t want to get into all the.

[00:16:34] June Diane Raphael: There’s a whole grab and go section of just like your kid. It’s eyeline. Just grab and go. Like, don’t talk to us.

[00:16:40] Paul Scheer: Right. There’s a, there’s a shelf. There’s a cereal shelf. Uh, there’s also a chocolate.

[00:16:47] June Diane Raphael: Interesting that cereal is in snacks.

[00:16:48] Paul Scheer: Well, where else could they be? It’s our pantry, you know, it’s like, you know, but, but again, it’s, it’s, that’s our, uh, Our go-to snacks are, you know, look, there’s pasta in the pantry. I mean, there are snacks in there, but I’m just talking about like, these are the things.

[00:17:03] June Diane Raphael: Right. I guess it’s not a closet devoted to snacks. No, but the snack section is very, is large, beautifully organized and people wanna talk about it.

[00:17:12] Paul Scheer: Well, I thought.

[00:17:12] June Diane Raphael: People, yeah.

[00:17:13] Paul Scheer: Yeah. I thought that you were gonna maybe invite me on to, to talk about my board game organization.

[00:17:18] June Diane Raphael: I was, that’s where I was going was there’s, there’s something else has been organized here in our home.

[00:17:25] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:17:25] June Diane Raphael: And I, I’m actually hosting a game night tomorrow night. I love playing cards. I love, I’m, I’m, I’m learning tomorrow how to play mahjong for the first time at 5 p. m. That’s a very important time. So I am using the, the, um, the game closet. Oh, quite a bit. And it is in my office. It’s more to two cabinets really.

[00:17:53] But you have found a new system. That’s an absolute game changer.

[00:17:58] Paul Scheer: The idea is games are bulky and especially, especially card games. You can fit the cards in the box whenever you’re manufacturing that box and those cards for sale. But once you play with those cards, very rarely do they fit back in the box.

[00:18:16] It’s not like, uh, a deck of playing cards, which always fit in the box, but the box will get a tear UNO cards. Tricky to get back in the box once you start, you know, to get a little bit more, you know, you’re shuffling, you know.

[00:18:28] June Diane Raphael: Especially with the instruction packet. Yeah.

[00:18:31] Paul Scheer: So I have, uh, developed a system.

[00:18:33] June Diane Raphael: Can I ask a question? Actually, I want to, I know this is your show, but I want to.

[00:18:37] Paul Scheer: No, this is our show. How did this get made? It’s our show.

[00:18:40] June Diane Raphael: I forget sometimes. I, as I always say, I’m, I’m there without my own consent.

[00:18:45] Paul Scheer: Yes.

[00:18:45] June Diane Raphael: You know, I’m not always a willing participant.

[00:18:47] Paul Scheer: I got you.

[00:18:48] June Diane Raphael: But, what happened? Because it was getting pretty unruly, but what happened that you thought I’m going to find a better way?

[00:18:56] Now you are an innovator. You always have been. You and I created podcasting, as I always say, as a medium.

[00:19:05] Paul Scheer: Don’t look it up. Don’t fact check us.

[00:19:07] June Diane Raphael: Don’t no one worry about it. Just accept that.

[00:19:09] Paul Scheer: Yes.

[00:19:09] June Diane Raphael: We created podcasting. You’ve been thinking you were ahead of Twitch before anyone. You are always at the forefront, always a beat ahead.

[00:19:18] So I’m just curious because for me, I saw those two cabinets and I just thought, well, this is life, this is life. Where I’m always going to be stuffing games in there. It’s always going to be a nightmare to open up that cabinet. This is what it is. You know, they say in Buddhism, like you have to accept the struggle.

[00:19:37] And I accepted the struggle and thought that this, this is just what life has in store for me. What made you think, that it could be different?

[00:19:48] Paul Scheer: I’m always fine tuning i’m always trying to figure out how to streamline things i’m a big declutterer I like you know me I like to hire and i do it often a dump truck to come to the house and I have them you know load up that dump truck and we’re we’re right on the verge of another dump truck uh hiring because we have a pallet we have a mattress a lot of things um what you don’t know about me is um.

[00:20:15] When you leave town, when you go away for more than one day, one night, it gives me total carte blanche to get into the nooks and crannies and try to figure something out because the way that I deal with things is I have to sometimes get it all out. See what I’m working with and then put it back in. So it normally will take me about, I would say, conservatively about a day and a half to do a full, you know, a full rebuild.

[00:20:47] June Diane Raphael: Can I ask, were you even in that closet very, that these, the game cabinets very often?

[00:20:52] Paul Scheer: Yeah, whenever I wanted to go get card games or do anything, we go on vacation, trips or vacations. I’ll tell you what. The reason why I mean, I was inspired to fix the cabinet was we went away on vacation. We bring card games to play with our kids.

[00:21:05] June Diane Raphael: You gotta have cards. Always have, by the way, always have a deck of cards. I just want to say, cause I want to hear the rest of this babe. But just so you know, when I took our son to to a soccer tournament in San Diego, I took the train, the express, and I sat in a group of four seats. And next to me, there were two lovely young women, probably in their late twenties, early thirties, who were just chatting the whole time, sitting across from each other.

[00:21:31] And they said, God, it would be so fun. I wish we had a deck of cards. And I, I had to say, I didn’t want to interrupt, but I said, I’m so sorry. I have a deck of cards. Do you want to play? And they said, do you mind? And I said, I would be my greatest pleasure. I handed them a deck of cards. They handed them back before they got off.

[00:21:50] Always have a deck of cards at the ready.

[00:21:53] Paul Scheer: I am right with you. And what I find though, especially with kids, when we’re bringing a deck of cards out, we’re losing cards. We’re shoving cards back in a thing of cards are going in a purse. I was like, there must be a better way to carry. An open deck of UNO cards to carry Apples to Apples to carry against lots of times.

[00:22:11] June Diane Raphael: We’re bringing them to dinner. To establishments.

[00:22:14] Paul Scheer: Yeah. And so I started looking online and I found because I had this idea that, oh, well, we, the kids collect basketball cards. And I was like, what if we put. Regular cards in this, uh, like kind of same system. And then I found, yes. And then I found that you could, they actually sell these like little boxes on Amazon, little plastic boxes.

[00:22:34] They also have a one in a more travel friendly size, uh, that is like a. That’s kind of water repellent. I was like, this would be great to bring our cards in this because it will stay closed. We could always put them back in there. The kids can put it back in there. We’re not going to lose these. It was really based on our trip.

[00:22:51] So that was my original intent. We have so many card games. And also the card games come in boxes that are way bigger than the actual cards that are necessary. I was like, it’s taking up so much space in this closet. Then in my card research, I found out there’s actually these tupperwares for board games that are like, they almost look like, um, like it’s.

[00:23:12] June Diane Raphael: Like a, can I, if I may?

[00:23:13] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:23:15] June Diane Raphael: It’s like if you were to take a regular folder, any kind of folder for papers and make it tupperware, that’s how thin, thin these are.

[00:23:27] Paul Scheer: You could put a Monopoly in there, full game of Monopoly in there. You could put a full game, every game that has a board and pieces, whether it’s, uh, you know, that train game, um, I forget the name of it right now.

[00:23:38] June Diane Raphael: Ticket to Ride.

[00:23:39] Paul Scheer: Ticket to Ride, right? It all fits in there. In these little things. So now we have a section of our, of our board game closet. That’s like 10, uh, 10 stacks of these like little folders that are off to the side. And that, that would have. That we are, that’s our whole.

[00:23:55] June Diane Raphael: That was the whole closet, whole, it was the whole thing. And not only that, but every time you opened it, like things were falling on top of you.

[00:24:02] Paul Scheer: It was like Uncle Buck.

[00:24:03] June Diane Raphael: Yeah, it was Uncle Buck. And I, a lot of times I would try to Tetris and every once in a while you would go in there and try to Tetris it to make it all fit. But now we got all the space in the world.

[00:24:15] Paul Scheer: And what I realized also was like, we weren’t grabbing the things that we needed. And it was hard to get certain things. And then, you know, also there has to be a purging. A purging has to go on. It’s like, you know, look, we’ve.

[00:24:26] June Diane Raphael: I’ve been sent a lot of board games too. I’m on, I’m on, you know, because the wonderful makers of Poetry for Neanderthal. Great game, um, wonderful makers of poetry.

[00:24:37] Neanderthal had heard me talking on the Deep Dive about how much both Jessica and I love that game. And so we actually played it on the Deep Dive and, um, And so they started sending me a lot of games now they started sending me an overwhelming amount. I can’t even keep up with.

[00:24:52] Paul Scheer: No, there’s, there’s been a, and there’s a lot of dupes in there as well, you know, so, so, but

[00:24:58] June Diane Raphael: We had to get right with what we were actually playing.

[00:25:01] Paul Scheer: And I think we also have to like, look at ourselves and go.

[00:25:05] June Diane Raphael: What’s realistic?

[00:25:06] Paul Scheer: Are we playing chess? We’re never playing chess. And if we are going to play chess, I’ll buy another chess thing, right? Like there are certain things that have never been open. There’s two games that I really want to play with you, but you’ll never want to play them.

[00:25:17] Uh, so I have to find somebody else. But Cinefile is a really fun game where it’s like, uh, six degrees of Kevin Bacon, but you have a deck of playing cards instead. So you have to kind of build on your own hand. Uh, with what you have, and there’s a bunch of different games in there, which I think would be a lot of fun.

[00:25:32] June Diane Raphael: But I have a different taste a little bit like I like playing your classic.

[00:25:37] I’m more of a meat and potatoes. I want to play hearts. I want to learn mahjong. I will eventually want to learn bridge. I probably save that for my fifties, but you like more sort of narrative and.

[00:25:49] Paul Scheer: I have a bunch of aspirational games, like a game called Disney Villains, which I’ve heard is amazing, but I can’t find anyone to play that with me. Because I am the.

[00:25:58] June Diane Raphael: Saddest thing I’ve ever heard, by the way, I will play it with you. Don’t say I can’t find any.

[00:26:02] Paul Scheer: You know what it is? And this is where it

[00:26:05] June Diane Raphael: Breaks my heart.

[00:26:06] Paul Scheer: Rich summer, uh, you know, Rich Summer for Mad Men. He’s been in a bunch of fantastic films and TV shows. Rich is a board game guy. And what was kind of amazing about Rich was back in the day. Uh, Richard come over, uh, or also even, uh, Tall John, a great guy, uh, John Daly and, uh, yeah, Tall John.

[00:26:26] June Diane Raphael: I thought for a second you meant tall John Shearer.

[00:26:28] Paul Scheer: No, I, uh, look, I, sometimes people go, don’t you mean John Schroeder? Anyway, I’m not, but, uh, two Johns don’t make a right. That’s their podcast where they just drive around and never make a right turn, but they could explain a game to you.

[00:26:39] And I think that’s the fun of game night. Like when you do a game night to introduce new games, you need someone who has played the game who can walk you through it.

[00:26:49] June Diane Raphael: That’s why Sam Stone is coming over tomorrow at 5 p. m.

[00:26:51] Paul Scheer: Okay, that’s very exciting. So that kind of world is exciting to me. And I like that for those bigger board games that feel insane to do. But I will also say, uh, What is great now is that YouTube has really taken over on that. Like so much so that like, I think Exploding Kittens, they say, don’t read these instructions, just go online and watch.

[00:27:13] June Diane Raphael: Well, like I, I actually, I, I, I learned how to play spades from watching YouTube and there’s, I can’t remember his name, but there’s this one guy who does such great and they’re funny YouTube tutorials.

[00:27:25] Um, and that was really helpful. Yeah. Everything’s on YouTube now, but you know, If you remember playing Dutch Blitz when we first learned how to play Dutch Blitz, we, I had to watch a lot of YouTube tutorials. Now I will say, and nobody else thinks this of me, but I believe, or at least they haven’t said it. I am amazing at teaching people how to play a game. You’ve seen me teach how many people play hearts?

[00:27:52] Paul Scheer: Many people. Now I’m going to say this about you as a teacher. You are exceptionally good, but what I notice. And this has nothing to do about you is you give out information on a need to know basis. And I think that’s the actual right way to teach a game.

[00:28:11] I see it happen time and time again. People don’t want it on a need to know basis, but they do need it on a need to. And that, and that is.

[00:28:18] June Diane Raphael: Just ask them to trust the process.

[00:28:20] Paul Scheer: Right. And that’s the thing that is, they want to jump ahead. They want to like, just learn the first couple of, and so that’s a lesson to everybody out there right now. So anyway, we’ve organized.

[00:28:32] June Diane Raphael: I do like, I do like, and by the way, so, so I do like to win. I don’t like playing games that are where you don’t keep score. Collaborative games. That freaks me out. That’s fucking crazy town and willy nilly and in a lawless land that I don’t want to be a part of.

[00:28:50] Paul Scheer: Well, you don’t that you specifically don’t like apples to apples because apples to apples really plays upon it. Yeah, plays upon a core concept that you did. It is the winner is chosen at random with no true reasoning.

[00:29:06] June Diane Raphael: No thank you.

[00:29:08] So that I will just want to say that I am going to is all of the are all of the compartments that you bought, especially the slim ones available on Amazon. Or did you have to?

[00:29:18] Paul Scheer: Yes, they’re all available.

[00:29:20] June Diane Raphael: Okay, so I’m going to link them, babe, to my Amazon storefront, which I haven’t updated in a while, but I will start a special page just for Paul’s picks.

[00:29:30] Paul Scheer: Oh, wow. I get to get a part of the storefront. This is exciting.

[00:29:33] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. And, uh,

[00:29:35] Paul Scheer: I’ll send you what I got.

[00:29:36] June Diane Raphael: Can head there.

[00:29:38] Paul Scheer: All right. I love it.

[00:29:38] June Diane Raphael: It’s also been thrilling to label them.

[00:29:41] Paul Scheer: Yes. Oh, I got, first of all, I got a brother P touch label maker, same day shipping. It was great. Brother P touch.

[00:29:48] June Diane Raphael: Can I just say something that you and I have struggled with the label makers?

[00:29:52] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:29:53] June Diane Raphael: Why don’t they ever hold a charge?

[00:29:54] Paul Scheer: Well, you, but you know why that one didn’t hold a charge.

[00:29:57] June Diane Raphael: No.

[00:29:58] Paul Scheer: Remember?, we had this whole conversation that the triple A batteries all were dead that Amazon sent, we got out of these triple A batteries and we were like, why is nothing holding a charge? And then I took out a battery tester because I do have a battery compartment. That was another class I taught on the Deep Dive Academy about organizing batteries.

[00:30:15] June Diane Raphael: And, uh, I got to link that one too, but

[00:30:18] Paul Scheer: You should definitely get in my, I’ll show you my cereal boxes as well. Uh, but, um, but I took out my battery tester, which is often made fun of. Why would you even have that there? And I tested these triple A’s and none of them worked. That’s why nothing was holding a charge. We were putting in dead batteries that had like an inkling of a chart, like just like a smidge.

[00:30:36] June Diane Raphael: So now I will say, I don’t think that that was the fault of the Amazon batteries.

[00:30:41] Paul Scheer: I think they left, they were probably there for too long.

[00:30:44] June Diane Raphael: Very long.

[00:30:45] Paul Scheer: Okay, great. Well, that’s it. Then, then, you know what? You win some, you lose some, but we said those batteries there. And because I had a surplus of them, I was able to pull from the ones that were, um, not dead. And we now have a working Brother P-touch. All this to say.

[00:30:58] June Diane Raphael: And it was so hard to realize, like, oh, it was the batteries. It’s like, it’s at the end of the day, it was the batteries. I’ve already forgotten.

[00:31:08] Paul Scheer: Well, I mean, of course. And that, but that’s okay. I was ready to blame .. June, we did succeed in just chatting. We just chatted.

[00:31:17] June Diane Raphael: I just want to make a really quick announcement, something, something’s been bothering me and it’s, it’s that Jason Menzoukas has, has told me a number of times to play Monopoly Go.

[00:31:30] Paul Scheer: Yeah, I know you won’t play it and I have that sitting there waiting for it.

[00:31:33] June Diane Raphael: And I don’t, it’s not that I won’t play it. It’s that I haven’t, maybe we need him to teach us.

[00:31:38] Paul Scheer: No, Monopoly Go is like, So easy and fun. I understand how to play it. I would love to play it with you. And it’s, and I think the boys would play it’s like, it’s just basically like a, it’s like a, it’s taking monopoly and making it into like a fun card game.

[00:31:52] Now, the games that you and I have really been stuck on is a game that Rich, uh, Rich did give us that, I think, one time we tried to learn, which was like a Jack the Ripper gin rummy game.

[00:32:03] June Diane Raphael: No, we did learn it. I loved it.

[00:32:05] Paul Scheer: That was really fun.

[00:32:05] June Diane Raphael: I’d go back to that. That was really fun.

[00:32:08] Paul Scheer: It’s labeled in the closet, ready to go.

[00:32:09] June Diane Raphael: That was really fun. I also really like Ticket to Ride.

[00:32:13] Paul Scheer: I do too, but I don’t ever see you pulling it out.

[00:32:16] June Diane Raphael: I know.

[00:32:17] Paul Scheer: Now, look, people are probably thinking to myself, Oh, well, what about when I have like a big board? Like, I’m not saying this is a solution for all board games. Like there’s a couple of.

[00:32:26] June Diane Raphael: Parent ones that are just in boxes.

[00:32:28] Yes. But boy, did we save space?

[00:32:29] Paul Scheer: Oh, it’s like, and actually it’s organized because we can actually see all of our, all of our pieces. And, and just certain people are asking, I don’t put my playing cards in those. I have a box that all the playing cards go in. Um, and that’s, those are just, those are Playing cards like that’s not uno that’s not dose that’s not dutch blitz that’s not you know Harry Potter uno we have a lot of you know star wars you know yeah we were getting you know all the time it’s all the same but yet we’ve never been invited to .

[00:32:58] June Diane Raphael: And like the power cards there.

[00:33:00] Paul Scheer: We’ve never been invited to a Quest Love party where he plays a lot of these games jenga uno all the sort of stuff maybe we should have a competitive thing we we have our own game night.

[00:33:12] June Diane Raphael: Well, I do have my own game night. I don’t know if you seem to be not recognizing that.

[00:33:17] Paul Scheer: I’m not really invited to it. That’s why I don’t, you

[00:33:19] know.

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[00:33:19] June Diane Raphael: You’re not invited, but you do come down and you do some just chatting for a little bit. You always make yourself known and.

[00:33:26] Paul Scheer: But I also let you be.

[00:33:28] June Diane Raphael: Yeah, it’s a ladies night. You know, I think, though, that if you wanted to introduce Monopoly Go or if Jason wanted to introduce Monopoly Go, that’s, that’s something I’d be open to, because I host a lot of guest, you know, professors. Okay. You can come teach.

[00:33:44] Paul Scheer: Alright, well, I would love to bring a game in to game night one time.

[00:33:47] June Diane Raphael: Okay. Well, this has been so wonderful. And again, I’m going to put all these links. I got to do it right now on my storefront. I’ll have a whole page for you.

[00:33:54] Paul Scheer: And we’ll put some links here on the, uh, How Did This Get Made, uh, as well, but we want to make sure that you get the June.

[00:33:59] June Diane Raphael: All right.

[00:34:00] Paul Scheer: Yeah. All right. All right. All right. June wants to get that, that sweet, uh, commission from her Amazon storefront. So Codi, uh, we’ll link to June’s Amazon storefront.

[00:34:11] June Diane Raphael: That’s okay. Listen, if you’re going there anyway, might as well use my link.

[00:34:15] Paul Scheer: Amen.

[00:34:16] June Diane Raphael: I’m an influencer and associate.

[00:34:18] Paul Scheer: I’ve always wanted to set up one of those storefronts. I never got the patience to do it.

[00:34:21] June Diane Raphael: It’s literally made for you.

[00:34:23] Paul Scheer: I guess you’re right. Maybe I’ll do it. Maybe I’ll do it.

[00:34:25] June Diane Raphael: I’m not saying sales are coming in crazily, but like, it’s nice to have I’m alll about passive income.

[00:34:31] Paul Scheer: Look, we, you’re, my sister in law, your sister has created, and we found this out on the slide, uh, a fake name and puts out a novelty t shirts that we did not know about.

[00:34:41] And they are funny and she’s producing a lot of them. She’s designing them and, uh, and some work and some don’t. And, uh, but it doesn’t make a difference because it’s just, it’s the numbers game.

[00:34:52] June Diane Raphael: Yeah, that’s right. So you got to, yeah, we got to be a little forward thinking about this, but our, our recs..

[00:34:58] Paul Scheer: All right. I like it. I like it. June.

[00:35:00] June Diane Raphael: Thanks for having me on.

[00:35:01] Paul Scheer: June the best, I would love to do more of these with you. Always a pleasure. Make sure that you’re listening to the Deep Dive. You can also sign up for the Deep Dive Academy and you can see June with me. In New York, in Philadelphia, New York is sold out, but we’ll be in Philadelphia on, uh, November 16th. So we’ll see you.

[00:35:17] June Diane Raphael: Also have some dinosaur shows coming up.

[00:35:19] Paul Scheer: I do indeed. I’m going to talk about that plenty on this. Don’t they will, they, they will know that if they’re on the east coast, they’re going to come see Dinosaur. Um, all right, everybody. Uh, bye for now. Thank you, June, for stopping by Last Looks.

[00:35:31] Love when June pops by here to Just Chat. So I’ll make sure is just chat there. All right. So next week we will be going from little green men to a serial killers den. That’s right. We will be revisiting the world of M. Night Shyamalan for the fifth time. As we watch what I think is a damn classic, his 2024 thriller, Trap, starring Josh Hartnett, Ariel Donahue, and Salika Shyamalan.

[00:36:02] I cannot wait. A breakdown of Trap’s plot. A father and daughter. See a pop concert, only to realize that they’ve entered the center of a dark and sinister event. Ooh, that’s a nice, vague way of setting it up, and I appreciate it. Alright, Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 57 percent score on Tomatometer.

[00:36:22] That is criminal. And A. A. Dowd for the Digital Trends website writes, “Patently absurd thriller, doesn’t just strain credulity, it strangles it, wraps it in plastic, and leaves it rotting in a dumpster.” Oh, A. A. Dowd, you didn’t get it. Anyway, listen to the trailer for Trap.

[00:36:41] Trailer Audio: This whole concert, it’s a trap. Be aware of what we’re dealing with. He’s going to be charming, sympathetic to your nervous system. He’ll be telling the truth.

[00:36:53] Somebody help me, please!

[00:36:55] He’s going to try to use chaos to get by us. What’s going on, Dad?

[00:37:06] Trap. I’m in control. Only in theaters August 2nd.

[00:37:10] Paul Scheer: Trap is available to rent right now on Apple TV, Amazon prime video, YouTube, and Google play. And it will be available to stream on Max starting October 25th separately. I encourage you all to check out Hoopla and Canopy and Libby, which are digital media services offered by your local public library, which will allow you to consume music, movies, tv and audio books for free. All right. That is all people. Thank you so much. If you listen on Apple podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review the show. And then please make sure that you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show and we. Truly appreciate it visit us on social media @HDTGM and I want to shout out the Action Jackson 5 for making our opening theme song Thank you.

[00:37:53] We love it so much. A big Thank you to our producers Scott Sonne and Molly Reynolds and our movie picking producer Avaryll Halley our associate producer Jess Cisneros and our engineer Casey Holford. We will see you next week for Trap.