EP. 328.5 — Last Looks: Jonathan Livingston Seagull

Paul Scheer [00:00:00] How would Jason and I wine and dine you in L.A.? The true facts about goals. And what is the connection to Neil and Lou? It might just be Phillips. All this and more on a brand new Last Looks. Hit the theme.

Music [00:00:39] [Intro Song]

Paul Scheer [00:00:43] Hello, people of Earth and Neil Diamond Completists. I’m your host, Paul Livingston Seagull And welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks where you get to voice your issues on, you guessed it, Jonathan Livingston Seagull, when I know you’ve got a lot of issues. Plus Jason and I will just chat about reality TV and our favorite LA activities. Plus, I’m going to reveal next week’s movie. And before we do any of that, let me just give a big shout at a huge shout out to Mark Granger for that opening theme. Mark, I loved it. It’s great. I love all these last look songs. They’re great. So much so that I thought that this group would be up to the challenge to create a brand newHow Did This Get Madede theme. It’s not something that can just be done. It’s got to be special. It’s got to be unique. It’s got to blow our fucking socks off. I guess knock would be the term, but these will be blown off. And you know what? We’ve gotten a few submissions. They’re good, but I don’t know if they’ve got the goods. Jason and I will evaluate some of these songs on an upcoming Last Looks episode. Kind of steer our composers into a direction. See how we’re feeling about them. But anyway, I don’t want that to dissuade you. I don’t want that pressure to be on you. I want you to create a song that you think is perfect for the show and you can send it to HowDidThisGetMade@Earwolf.com. You can also send in songs for the show, a just chat segment or just the opening theme of the Last Looks, just like Mark Granger did. Send them to HowDidThisGetMade@Earwolf.com. And remember, they don’t have to be long. As a matter of fact, I prefer if they weren’t. People. How Did This Get Made is going on tour. That’s right. In just a few weeks we will be in Portland, Providence, New Haven, Connecticut, and Brooklyn, New York. That’s right. From October 18th to the 21st. We’re going to be in Portland, Rhode Island, New Haven and Brooklyn. And then we’re going to take a couple of weeks off and then we’re in come back and go to Chicago and Minneapolis. And that will be on November 8th, 9th, 10th and 11th. That’s right. We’re doing two night residencies. Can you consider it a residency if it’s only two nights? We’re doing two night residencies in Chicago and Minneapolis. We’re keeping it primarily on the Eastern seaboard. But we would love to see you follow us from Maine all the way down to Brooklyn. Tickets are selling fast, and that is exciting to me. Any way you want more information, you want to know where you get those tickets, go to HDTGM.com. As I speak, Avril is working hard to pick some amazing movies for all of these shows and we will announce those movies on our website and social media as soon as those picks are locked in. But don’t worry about that. Avril’s Got that. You get the ticket. We’ll see you at the show. I want you with a costume on. I want you to come in with a second opinion. I want you with a notebook full of questions about whatever movie we’re picking because you, the audience, are a giant part of the show, and every show is completely different. Anyway, before we dive into corrections and omissions, I want to give some love to these second opinion singers because, like I just mentioned. I want you to come with a second opinion song. Right? And I’m consistently blown away by the level, the quality of the songs that we get at these live shows and at the Jonathan Livingston Seagull Show. We were blown away by these songs and we felt like we had to share a few more of our favorite songs with you. So take a listen to these bangers from the Beacon Theater, and we’ll be right back with corrections and omissions.

Paul Scheer [00:04:37] Now it’s time for a second opinions.

Audience Member [00:04:41] I have often streamed tons of airborne flicks, Con air and Sky captain, not to mention birdemic. Then I met this gull, Jonny Livingston, and like Top guns Maverick I had, he just felt the need for speed. Yo, this film was lit. That’s my second opinion. You can talk your shit. Somehow I’ll fly on. I have found my flock there, right here at the Beacon. And. And I’ll go on Amazon and rate this film. Five Stars.

Paul Scheer [00:05:28] Wow. Name?

Audience Member [00:05:31] David Seagull.

Paul Scheer [00:05:33] Thank you. Wow. Wow.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:43] Everyone has been incredible. Here we go.

Paul Scheer [00:05:45] I feel like they didn’t pick this many people, but here we go. Oh.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:05:49] These motherfuckers are just lining up. They’re like me. Next.

Paul Scheer [00:05:55] All right, now it’s time for a second opinions.

Audience Member [00:06:05] I’m sailing away. Fuck this flock and the elders, anyway. 200 miles per hour. Man, I’m pretty cool. Son of gull power. Okay. I’m a weirdo flying on my own. Jacob’s Ladder, Heaven or hell may be me on Marine bone. Well, they said. Outcast. My. Unclear if I died gathering my cult of birds in Garbage Beach City. Probably lots of seagulls died to make a shitty allegory. I said come sail away, come sail away. Come sail away with me. Neil Diamond Charts for brains. Pretty sure Fletcher’s the zombie.

Paul Scheer [00:07:18] Yes. Amazing crowd work.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:26] What’s your name?

Audience Member [00:07:28] My name is Bianca Seagull.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:07:30] Yeah. Bianca Seagull. Fantastic. Wow. These are all stone cold bangers.

Paul Scheer [00:07:38] There we go. And now it’s time for second opinions.

Audience Member [00:07:42] Watch how fast this eagle flies. I’m a freak. I will be ostracized. Your bird is now an outcast in his clan. You’ll be forced to watch me fly to distant lands. Oh, I’m just a gull. Oh, I’m just a gull. You’re forced to watch me for the next 90 minutes of your life. Oh, I’m just a gull. Did you like this movie? Well, fuck you. It had no animal rights. Oh. I wanna fuck Maureen. Oh, I wanna fuck Maureen.

Paul Scheer [00:08:35] Amazing. Your name?

Audience Member [00:08:38] Neal.

Paul Scheer [00:08:39] Thank you, Neal.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:40] Great job.

Paul Scheer [00:08:44] Taking us home, taking us in into.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:46] Every one of these has been better than the show.

Paul Scheer [00:08:50] Amazing. And you didn’t want us to do this movie.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:08:54] And you guys are all online being like, I hate second opinion songs.

Paul Scheer [00:08:58] (Mockingly) I wouldn’t have come to Boston if I knew. And now it’s time for second opinions?

Audience Member [00:09:15] Tell me something, Bird. Did you know this movie was absurd? Or did you love it when Jonathan kept whispering? I log on to Amazon. Second opinion. Jonathan Livingston I’m going to rate it five stars. Crash through the surface with Seagull Jesus. He’s faster than the speed of sound. In the outcasts in the outcasts. We’re part of the outcasts now.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:10:13] Fantastic. Wow. Great. Wow. What’s your name?

Audience Member [00:10:19] Matthew John Seagull.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:10:21] Oh, MJS, everybody. Wow.

Paul Scheer [00:10:28] Welcome back. Last week, we talked at length about Jonathan Livingston Seagull, a movie that Discord user Greatest Hound thinks could have had the tagline “Jonathan Livingston Seagull, put it on for your cat when they’re home alone.” You know what? Honestly, I think a cat might be bored by this movie anyway. We had questions about this movie and we talked about it for a very long time. But we realized that we might have missed a few things. So here is your chance to either set us straight, ask about something that we didn’t even consider or even fact check us if you must. It is now time for corrections and omissions.

Music [00:11:11] [Corrections and Omissions song]

Paul Scheer [00:11:22] Thank you Bionic Limbs for that great theme song. Let’s go to the Discord. BML, a purported bird expert who attended the live show, writes in with some sequel insights. “Though the gull filmed in the snow scene was unnaturally placed there, gulls in general are not deterred by snow or cold weather, with some living in the Arctic and Antarctic climates. We think of birds as flying south for the winter because of the cold, but in reality most birds are extremely cold, tolerant and actually migrate because of the seasonal changes in food supply. So to be clear, yes, that gull on the Snowy mountain definitely died, but from starvation, not from hypothermia.” By the way, that should be the the the ASPCA warning at the end of this film. Also BML continues with a few other seagull inaccuracies. “There is footage of distant gulls doing a loop de loops and barrels. However, gulls do not naturally perform these maneuvers. This must have been shot using radio controlled models, presumably built by Art Chull credited in the film for aerobatic aircraft. And in addition, gulls do not dive below the water’s surface like gannets or boobies. That sequence appeared to use a model for the aerial dive as well, and very upsettingly cut to a gull forced underwater.” Yeah, this movie was tough to watch, BML, but I appreciate that you brought some seagull truth to us. Anna Barrington Seagull Esquire writes “Why is there so little human presence in this movie? We see a landfill which indicates that humans are around and impacting their world. I’m surprised that human activity doesn’t factor in at all to the seagulls’ lifestyle or philosophy. But then again, I don’t factor seagulls into mine. Maybe I should.” Anna Barrington Seagull. I got to love that. I got to love that you checked yourself. Jane Seagull writes, I love this, by the way, Author Richard Bach. Not this question, which I might love. I just love that everyone has seagull-ized in their name. “Author Richard Bach couldn’t have been too unhappy with the portrayal of seagulls in the film adaptation because he married the gull wrangler extraordinaire Leslie Parish after meeting during the making of the film.” Now, here’s a note from Scott. Scott comes and goes, Well. Leslie Parrish is the film’s associate producer. That director Hal Bartlett, inexplicably demoted to researcher in the final credits. Richard and Leslie married in 1981, but divorced in 1999. So maybe, honestly, he did it just to prank her. I think that that’s what Scott’s trying to prove. I mean, 81, 99, not a bad run. Not a bad run at all. Let’s go to the phones. Colin Seagull, what do you got?

Listener [00:14:18] Hey, Paul, this is Colin from Chicago, and I just finished listening to the Jonathan Livingston Seagull episode, and I thought I’d give you some more information on on the film that I got here from the book, the 50 worst films of All Time and How they got That Way. It’s a book published in 1978, so it’s a little out of date, but it does have an entire chapter devoted to Jonathan Livingston Seagull. And one thing it says here, it says, Intending to cash in on the anticipated seagull bandwagon, several manufacturers created new products relating to the film. These articles all bore the name and official insignia of the famed Seagull. The equipment included leisure footwear, bedsheets, autographed pillows, blankets, ready made draperies, tablecloths, T-shirts, sweatshirts, tank tops, iron on patches, hand-crafted copper enamel pins, hand-crafted yarn, punch needle rug kits, stuffed toys, greeting cards, plaques, posters, keychains, puzzles and a game devised by Mattel. I don’t know how to play that game anyway. Thanks for everything. Love the show.

Paul Scheer [00:15:26] What? Are you telling me that I can find a Jonathan Livingston Seagull game on eBay? People I need. All right, I’m on eBay. I’m going to be on eBay right now. And autographed pillows or pillows by who? Who’s who? Richard Bach? A seagull? I mean, I once went to a Star Trek convention of the dog from Voyager did sign autographs. They put his paw in ink. I don’t know if that was, again, a humane thing to do, but. Wow. Colin, I need pics. I need pics. All right. What do you got? We got Jackie Seagull. This is this is endlessly entertaining to me.

Listener [00:16:07] Hey, this is Jackie from Boston. And I think I liked Jonathan Livingston Seagull. And I like it because I saw it as a religious allegory and like a hero’s journey, not a fetus Christ, but of Siddhartha Guatama, who was the first Buddha. Both of them are trying to escape the suffering of their respective worlds through achieving enlightenment or Jonathan through achieving perfect speed. During this, Jonathan finds that constantly trying to go faster is only bringing him more suffering and pain and only brings more suffering into the world. But both of them have to leave their societies. As a consequence of this, Siddartha has to leave or chooses to leave voluntarily, and Jonathan is kicked out of his seagull kingdom. Both of them go to the wilderness and through that they experience various forms of violence and peace in the world. And Jonathan ultimately achieves his enlightenment through his supernatural experiences with Chang, who says perfect speed is not going faster, but already being there, essentially telling him that constantly trying to go faster is actually preventing them from attaining enlightenment. And when Jonathan understand this, he achieves enlightenment and can fly with perfect speed. However, that’s not the end of his hero’s journey, like Siddartha having achieved enlightenment. Jonathan understands that his role is not to stay and see Nirvana like the other seagulls who can fly perfect speed, but rather to return to Earth so that he can teach other seagulls how to achieve perfect speed as well. Anyway, to Jonathan Livingston Seagull is Bird Buddha Enlightenment is perfect speed.

Paul Scheer [00:17:42] Yes, you are completely correct. Jonathan is Buddha and his enlightenment is perfect speed. I think you’re right. I think that that’s why we were having trouble kind of wrestling with the theme. It is about a state of mind, his Zen state of mind. What you said. I’m not going to correct you. You’re right, Jackie. You’re right. What would I say say? Add to it only to mansplain it. All right. Next up, we have Morgan Seagull, the book expert from the episode. She was fantastic. So, Morgan, what else do you got to tell us?

Listener [00:18:12] Hey, Paul, this is Morgan from the New York Jonathan Livingston Seagull Show. And I just had a point of clarification on a question I had gotten from you all about the movie versus the book. So you had asked if the Seagull’s had done outer space in the movie, Then I said no. And the issue is, in the movie, you see them flying through outer space. That definitely did not happen in the book. In the book, what happens is Jonathan and his mentor just appear on what allegedly may be another planet with multiple suns. So there’s no travel through space per say. They just arrived. That is all. Thank you.

Paul Scheer [00:19:00] Whoa. Thank you for calling again. Another person checking themselves. Not going out there. You did your best. We appreciated you out there. And I love that you called in to say, you know what? I got it wrong. And that, honestly, is all that we’re responsible for. We make a mistake. We come back in, we tell the truth. And you know what? You’re A-OK. You already were A-OK. Now you’re A-okay plus. Back to the Discord. Hobo bot writes, “I might have missed it, but did anyone guess as to why Jonathan is so intent on 62 miles per hour? Specifically, I think the writer’s converted units for an American audience since 100 kilometers per hour equals 62 miles per hour, and 100 is a nice round number, which brings up a lot more questions like why was Jonathan originally using the metric system? Why didn’t they just say 100 miles per hour? Why were kilometers involved at all since the writer is American? You know what Hobobot? I think I do have an answer for this because the pilot was an aviator. And I believe that kilometers is how you would calculate speed as a aviator. Again, it’s a good guess. I’m not sure I don’t do one. I’m not one of those. I’m not one of those people who have a jet, private airplane flying around. That’s not up. I leave that to the pilots. I don’t need to do that as a hobby. I don’t like I don’t like anyone who has a hobby of flying a plane. Okay. Grumblebottom writes. Grumble bottom. You broke. You broke that. You broke the seagull thing. Okay. Grumble Bottom writes “Re: flight speed. No Damn gull is going 60 miles per hour. Gear falcons can hit 60 miles per hour on a straight fight. Peregrine falcons, the fastest animal on the planet, can hit 240 miles per hour during a powered dive, but only go about 50 during a straight fight. Gulls even the bigger, faster ones like herring gulls, go maybe around 20 miles per hour. They are nimble flyers, but they are not fast.” Boom, Grumblebottom, hitting it hard. No one researched birds. It was an allegory. Johnny Unusual writes, “So Chang is like a low key orientalist archetype stereotype, right? I mean, all the other birds have Western names except for the wizened master character who is a bird. He doesn’t have a grotesque accent, thank God. But I feel like calling him Chang in the Seventies is playing on the idea that people of other cultures like Asian are somehow more spiritually in tune.” I mean. Johnny Unusual. Yeah. I mean, we see that all the time, and I think it was a very like, I think if we’re going to say, idea of like Zen and Buddhism and I think that of course, of course it was course. BML, of course, chimes in with one more thing here. “Says it’s funny that hummingbirds are the only type of bird that June likes. Given her disdain for the squabbling and fighting of gulls, she might be dismayed to learn that hummingbirds are among the most aggressive, cutthroat creatures in the animal kingdom. The males use their bills to stab other males in defence. They Perry like like they’re like they’re sword fighters, sometimes knocking a birds off a perch. Some hummingbirds even have hooked beaks with serrations that look like shark’s teeth that can be used to tear out other birds feathers.” Woah BML kind of coming hard at the hummingbirds. “I also want to add like gulls pigeons often get a bad rap as well. And like gulls, they are in fact highly skilled fliers whose ubiquitous presence is a testament to their evolutionary success. So as bird expert Dr. Alan Grant says in Jurassic Park, try to show a little respect.” And you know what? I’m going to show you some respect here BML for bringing in the heat with your bird facts. You are our winner this week for corrections and omissions. And you get this amazing song from Joel Terry. Hit it.

Music [00:23:13] [Winner’s Song]

Paul Scheer [00:23:37] Thank you, Joel Terry, for that song. Remember, if you want to submit an alt movie tagline or chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode. Hit up the Discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM or call us at 619-PAUL-ASK. Stick around. Jason Mantzoukas will join me after the break to chat about reality TV, our favorite LA activities and music that we are currently loving. I’ll be right back.

Paul Scheer [00:24:02] Welcome back. You know, every Monday is a chance to look back at episodes from How Did This Get Made history. This week, we rereleased After Earth with Paul Tompkins. And now to tip our hat to the seagulls. We are rereleasing Birdemic. That’s right. Weird Al Yankovic, Whitney Moore. They join us. It’s one of our early, if not one of our first Largo episodes. Every Monday, a brand new old episode. Can that be possible as an oxymoron? Maybe it is. Anyway, don’t worry about that, because now it is time for Jason and I to open up the help line and answer some listener questions. This week’s theme comes to us from Lazy Bones. Play us in.

Music [00:24:45] [Just Chat Song]

Paul Scheer [00:25:07] All right, Jason, we are back. I wanted to let you know that you asked for it and we made it, which is right now in the Teepublic store. There is a parents night out shirt. How Did This Get Made parents night out shirt. So people who come to see How Did This Get Made Live.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:24] Does it say parents’ night out at How Did This Get Made live? Or.

Paul Scheer [00:25:28] It does not say “At How Did This Get Made” and I think that was because we were not on it. But the design was so good that we just like the parents night out.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:39] I think we should throw in a “at how did this get made” even if it’s little.

Paul Scheer [00:25:42] Yeah just on the bottom.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:44] Just so it’s so that you know it’s for all the parents getting a sitter to come see us. But it’s also parents night out.

Paul Scheer [00:25:49] It’s a good looking shirt. All right.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:54] For good looking parents. So if you’re an ugly parent out there, don’t wear the shirt.

Paul Scheer [00:25:59] Don’t wear it. All right. Let’s go to the phones. Scott, what do we got?

Listener [00:26:03] Hey, Paul and Jason, this is Jacob from New York. I’ve listened to quite a few years and recently I’ve heard you all mentioned Survivor on the podcast a few times. So I thought I’d finally call in and say hi. I actually competed on a season of Survivor a couple of years ago. It went really badly, like really badly. But I’m always happy to answer any questions you might have about the show. Anyways, I actually work in casting and developing now for reality shows in particular. So my question for you guys is if either of you were to host an unscripted series, what kind of show would you want it to be? I know you both love Alone. Maybe you go survival centric, maybe like a classic pyramid kind of trivia or maybe celebrity stuff like Match Game. I’m just curious and and let me know. I’ll get started on the pitch right away. Have a good one.

Paul Scheer [00:26:58] Wow.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:59] So, Paul, I’m not I’m not a survivor person, but do you recognize this person? Do you know who it is?

Paul Scheer [00:27:05] I would be very honest and say, I don’t recognize him, but that’s because we haven’t watched all the seasons yet. We have just, we’re digging in. So we’ve watched a lot. I have not seen a season, but now I’m excited to maybe you’ll move this up to the top.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:18] Wow, a Survivor contestant is a fan of the show. Pretty cool.

Paul Scheer [00:27:23] Cool. All right. So this is a good question. Have you ever had any interest in hosting, like, a reality show type of thing? I have one idea that they could never make that. I’ve always been behind.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:34] Oh, what’s that?

Paul Scheer [00:27:35] I would love to do a Survivor style show or Survivor meets American Ninja Warrior. But the premise would be Die Hard. One person with a paintball gun having to get through a building using their wits.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:56] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Paul Scheer [00:27:57] To escape like there needed to be. Like, there needs to be challenges. And but I would I think hand-to-hand fighting would be part of it. I also believe that paintball guns will be part of it. Like, I think you could do a bunch of different elements of it and there have to be like some puzzles to solve and things like that. But I’ve always thought that I would love to see how somebody could figure out a.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:17] I love that. That’s a great that’s a great that’s a great pitch. So much so that I hesitate to allow you to put it in the episode like you should. You should you should keep that.

Paul Scheer [00:28:28] All right.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:29] No, no, I don’t know. I don’t know if you should. It’s. It’s a great idea. I do agree with you. It’s a difficult to execute idea.

Paul Scheer [00:28:36] It’s it’s a show that feels to me like lawsuits would be rolling in.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:43] I think what’s the thing is like, the thing about American Ninja Warrior is what you’re showcasing is the how adept people are at the challenge and the skills being put in front of their they need to execute the course rather than the obstacle course versus things like Survivor or these other shows are personality based. These are really stories of these people. The challenges are there and they are kind of hiccups and hurdles in the road. But really it is just to force everybody to be more themselves or to dig whatever all the interpersonal drama is. I feel like for a lot of those shows.

Paul Scheer [00:29:19] 100%. I think the thing I really found about Survivor that I love is when they do the merge, when they when the tribes merge, that’s when you start to really fall in love with these characters, because it is it’s so many characters. You’re getting fun moments and you’re you’re making opinions. But when they’re all in there and you really get to see how they’re working, that’s what I like. And that to me is Alone. Like, you really start to see a person’s personality.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:29:45] For a while after Alone. They were doing like these. Some guy was like talking to the contestants and doing like wrap ups and what did you think? And this and that. And I was like, Oh, I’d like to do that, you know? I mean, like, I don’t I don’t like I don’t want to go out and like host a, you know, survivor type show. I don’t want to go. But there is something about having like the the conversation you and I have, you and I had with Wanya. Yeah, it was great. You know, I really enjoyed that. Anyway, I can’t really think of anything that I have that I would like to do, you know, my own idea or something like that. But I will say this gets to a little bit of something I’ve been watching and you can decide and tell me whether we should include this or not, but something I’ve been watching a bunch of lately. On specifically on YouTube, frankly is and I would love to do it is. And I’m curious if you what your opinion is of this show. I think I feel like maybe you have one is Taskmaster.

Paul Scheer [00:30:41] Oh, yeah. I mean, look.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:44] That’s a competition reality show and it’s fucking hilarious.

Paul Scheer [00:30:48] I love it.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:49] Boy, the show is a fucking blast. And there are former friend of the, I mean not former friend of the pod, but friend of the pod. Former guest Aisling Beas on a season. Nish Kumar’s on. It’s like there’s great people. James Acaster who we’ve talked about before, and his famous podcast that I believe we called Last Meal but I believe is called Off Menu. But I’m gonna continue to call it, I’m going to continue to call the last meal and ask that James and the rest of the guys on the podcast, please change the name, Please change the name of the podcast and what it’s about to better suit what we talked about before.

Paul Scheer [00:31:22] Yes, we don’t look like idiots. Don’t make us look like stupid people.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:24] Make your show what we describe. Thank you.

Paul Scheer [00:31:27] I, I love I mean, I love that show and I still get tweets about it, but I love Taskmaster as it’s really. I don’t know. It’s a smart, smart show. And that’s kind of an irony. So, yes, we we created a show for Unspooled, which was like a pop culture show that had similar tasks, all like it was basically creating comedy. Bits. You know, I like that look where it’s like it’s more creative than a right or wrong answer or just a task. It’s. It is.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:01] It’s fun. And and people are encouraged to break the rules and solve the puzzle in ways that are comedically rewarding rather than the right way to do a thing. It’s all it is. It is challenges given by comedians to a panel of comedians, and it’s almost always absurdly like failure based and hilarious.

Paul Scheer [00:32:21] And it to me, what I am excited about and you just reminded me about this is I think I need to start showing my sons Junior Taskmaster.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:33] I didn’t know it existed.

Paul Scheer [00:32:35] A spinoff, right? So it’s kids 9 to 11 on this one.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:40] That’s a great.

Paul Scheer [00:32:41] That’s a yes and yes. So I’m I need to I have to figure that out. I got to figure out how I can can get this for my kids because I think that they would go bananas for. But yeah, I like that too.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:53] I will say yeah, if you want to watch it, if you want to check it out, I would just. Just this just for strike sake, direct you to the YouTube channel. Great. Has quite a lot of long clips, individual tasks, and whole episodes for that matter. So it’s all there.

Paul Scheer [00:33:09] All right. It’s a lot of it. Yeah. And I feel like I don’t understand why the UK has embraced funny panel shows and America seems to always be behind on that.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:24] They’ve had them forever. Like, that’s like those are staples of British, you know, night time television is chat shows and panel shows and we just simply don’t have it here. We don’t have those comedy forward game shows, panel shows, chat shows.

Paul Scheer [00:33:39] And they we had them at certain times, like in @midnight. Yeah. Or like we did like bad versions of them, you know. And I feel like there is I don’t know, there is like something about.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:55] I have a theory, but you go ahead.

Paul Scheer [00:33:56] No, no, go ahead.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:57] There’s something uniquely American about needing to win. And so I feel like the American versions of those shows are actually too focused on the winning. And the British shows are really just focused on goofing around and bullshitting and roasting each other and busting balls and being clever and funny in a way that there is something that is uniquely American about like, Well, I want to win. I’m going to contest that point because I want to win, you know what I mean.

Paul Scheer [00:34:27] Well, that to me feels like, you know, I think you hit the nail on the head. I think that people believe that the show doesn’t feel complete until someone has won or lost.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:41] Yes. And until there is a clear winner, who is the best, You know.

Paul Scheer [00:34:45] And that really is a that really is a bummer because to me, it’s like, aren’t we just laughing at this? This is like this is what we want to see, right? I mean, come on.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:56] The show is really funny. I’ve been really I’ve been trying to while we’re on strike, while we’re you know, we’re not talking about stuff here, you know, we’re not talking about this stuff we’re involved in or the other stuff that’s around. I’m like, you know, I’m trying to like, watch stuff that is not even part of those silos.

Paul Scheer [00:35:13] I love that I’ve been I mean, I’ve been trying to do similar stuff and just try to open my mind, see different things. And, you know, by the way, if you like Taskmaster, there’s like two podcasts, too.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:24] Oh, I didn’t know that. Like official like their podcast?

Paul Scheer [00:35:27] Yes, the Taskmaster, the podcast and then Taskmaster The People’s Podcast.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:32] Nice. Okay.

Paul Scheer [00:35:32] So yeah, there you go. So they basically people can call up and and disagree with what they’ve seen on the show. I love it. But no, that kind of stuff is I really enjoy.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:44] And before everybody freaks out, we are well aware that there was an American version of Taskmaster.

Paul Scheer [00:35:50] That doesn’t count.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:50] We’re not talking about that. It didn’t succeed so we but we know that.

Paul Scheer [00:35:54] And but but that’s the whole thing. It’s like it didn’t succeed because I feel like when things make the switch, they wreck it. Like something about it is wrecked. Like, I love this. Well, there’s another a British show called Imposters, and I’ve talked about my love of that show, Imposters. And then America did it. And it was a complete I just felt it was like just not fun.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:20] Oh, I’ve never even heard of this. Oh, okay. Got it.

Paul Scheer [00:36:22] Oh, Jason, get on. Imposters is another BBC show. A BBC show that no one thought was going to be good. And. And it. And it’s great.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:31] Got it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, they do. They really have a they have a set of shows that occupies a space that we don’t appear to be interested in culturally, those type of shows, you know, I mean, we’re not.

Paul Scheer [00:36:46] We love comedy. We love podcasts. It has the same elements of all the things that we gravitate towards as a culture, but when it’s positioned as like a talk show, chat show. But they even do a funny news show. I was watching when I was in the U.K., like a couple of months ago. It was hilarious. It was great. It’s like, oh, it’s like they’re talking about news. They’re making up news. People are goofing on news. Yeah. And it’s like it kind of feels to me like what we did with Best Week Ever, which shockingly, somebody just reached out to me to tell me it was a 20th anniversary of the premiere of that show. I was like, Oh, wow. Yet, Yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:22] Isn’t that crazy?

Paul Scheer [00:37:23] I mean, I can’t even believe it. But, but that kind of idea like, Oh, we’re just talking about funny. These are funny people talking about stuff. And even with that, the big switch that the that they made was they eventually switched it to a one person host And that and Paul F. Tompkins, one of the funniest I thought he killed on that show. But I think one of the reasons why the ratings dropped had nothing to do with Paul. It just had to do with people liked multiple people chatting.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:57] Yes, exactly. And I think that show I think the format change almost would have been better served by the group all being together to talk about this stuff. Right. You know, I mean, rather than rather than winnowing it down to a single voice to instead have these five voices, but instead of having them each individually doing their bits, have them collectively as a group just bullshitting around and the same jokes, the same feeding off of each other, that people would enjoy that.

Paul Scheer [00:38:25] It’s so much more fun. I mean, that’s what.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:28] That’s what Corden was trying to do with his show by by basically doing the Graham Norton show. You know.

Paul Scheer [00:38:34] And I still think that people respond to it in a weird way. I always remember I think back to Jimmy Kimmel when he first started doing monologues. I used to love his monologues because they were like, it was like Talk soup. It was just very like, Oh, here’s a funny clip. Here’s a thing here’s a this, you know, it wasn’t a traditional mold. And he’s always very funny. And I feel like but then you get forced into these patterns. And I know, every talk show needs a monologue and it needs to go.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:01] No, it’s got to look like this. And yeah, it has to feel like like as if the architecture of the show is what people want, not the tone and personality of the host.

Paul Scheer [00:39:13] Yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:13] You know.

Paul Scheer [00:39:14] I know it’s such an interesting. It is interesting. But I’m glad that we have a lot of great British shows to kind of catch up on. Yeah. All right. So let’s hear one more call. We got one more.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:25] Do it.

Listener [00:39:26] Hi, Jason. I’m Paul. This is Morgan calling from Brooklyn. So this October, I’ll be taking myself on a solo trip to L.A. to celebrate my birthday. I’ve been several times before, so I don’t feel like I need to jam packed my schedule or hit all the big sites. And I really value getting recommendations from people that live in the cities I’m visiting. I’m really open to anything, but I love live music, comedy, all types of food, record and book shopping. So my question for you both is if you were to think about your perfect long weekend in L.A., what would be on the agenda? As a side note, last episode, you had a question from Caitlin, who was also from Brooklyn, and having her post-breakup New England Summer. I had a very similar post-breakup New Jersey Summer. So Kaitlyn, if you are looking for a fellow newly single friend, when you get back to Brooklyn, maybe the folks that had a look at me could put us in touch. Thank you, guys. Take care.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:16] Wow. Oh, my God. Please, please, can we make this happen? That is like, again, I love our I love our fans, but what a great message. I hope that Caitlin and Morgan have do link up and have wonderful stories to call in with and tell us.

Paul Scheer [00:40:32] Meet up on the Discord because that’s a safe way to do it. And you can go there. And that is Kaitlyn, by the way. I know that. I just want to jump back for one second. You know, we were talking about taskmaster. Just want everyone to know that Taskmaster has their own streaming service so you can give them right the money right to them. Their own. They literally have their own. You can get everything and international versions also on theirs. So it’s a good way to throw money out of not to streamers and yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:00] If you’re looking maybe maybe it would be a good idea right now to say maybe stop some of your subscriptions to to streamers that might not be putting stuff out that you want right now and maybe give it to give it elsewhere.

Paul Scheer [00:41:11] 5.99 a month. Okay. So question is this looking for travel recommendations? Is that what we’re hearing?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:17] I think it’s yes, L.A. specific travel, a long weekend in. If you had a long weekend in L.A. and it wasn’t to service tourism type stuff or, you know, what would you want to be doing?

Paul Scheer [00:41:30] I mean, for me, I’m going to definitely make sure that I’m hitting a great sushi spot.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:37] Oh, yeah? What do you got?

Paul Scheer [00:41:38] I’m going to look here. Give me give me one second to find you like a couple or a couple.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:42] Why don’t I throw a couple of things out? Because this gives me a little bit of an opportunity to shout out a few of the things that are on my. My list of things. Because I may just because Morgan mentioned record stores. I will, of course, recommend Amoeba Records.

Paul Scheer [00:41:57] Of course.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:57] As well. It’s a good.

Paul Scheer [00:41:59] It’s a different version now, right? It’s not really.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:00] It’s moved. It’s moved. It’s still amoeba. It’s just moved to a different location. So it’s still right there in Hollywood, you know, big, incredible record store. Another one of the you know, if you’re looking for things to watch right now, the amoeba has a a show on their YouTube channel called What’s In My Bag, where artists come on and go through the store and pick out records and DVDs and all sorts of stuff. And then they talk about it for ten or 15 minutes, all the selections they made and and what they like about them. And I’ve done one. They’ve done comedians, Matt Berry did one, and then all sorts of bands have done them recently. That band Mama did one always did one, tennis did one. Recently. There’s been a bunch that are that are terrific. Absolutely worth watching, though. What’s in My Bag series from Amoeba Records. And I will also throw out Merge records the record company that Sid the the that that has like that Superchunk started a mac and Laura from Superchunk and they put out the New Pornographers and Destroyer and all sorts of great bands. They also have now a YouTube show where people go through their library and pull records that are meaningful and talk about them, and that’s pretty great as well. So I love.

Paul Scheer [00:43:22] I also love how they do that for the Criterion Closet, too. It’s great when people can.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:25] That’s a great one. And there’s in that respect. Paul Yeah, There is a French video store called Kon Bini, they have a YouTube channel where they do similar to the criterion like closet video. It’ll just but it’ll be like Wes Anderson walking through this one of the last video stores left in Paris. And he picks out for 40 minutes. He picks out, you know, two dozen movies and talks about them. It’s fantastic.

Paul Scheer [00:43:54] I love that. All right. Well, speaking of movies, I’m going to hit two good movie spots for a long weekend in LA, depending on you here. One is if you’re here, you know, even all the way through October, Cinespia is amazing, it’s an outdoor movie experience in a cemetery. It’s it’s a big fuckin fun night out. People get dressed up, they picnic and you’re in a cemetery watching great movies and and people really go all out to be there. And if that.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:23] But you also don’t have to. You can also just go. You don’t have to dress up if you want to just go and watch whatever movie they’re showing, you can do that. It’s a blast.

Paul Scheer [00:44:31] And they normally have like special guests, fun things. The other thing, if you don’t if that’s too much, is check out Vidiots, which is a video store, a not for profit video store, the last video store in L.A. ultimately that has a collection of VHS and DVDs that you’ll never find anywhere. And a big, beautiful, beautiful new theater that is playing so many great movies, it’s hard to keep up. I actually was talking to them the other day. I was like, I think I’m going to do an Elaine May thing with them where like every first Monday of month it’s going to be like Elaine May movie. So like for four months do a little

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:14] Mikey and Nicky, A New Leaf, Heartbreak. What is there five of them?

Paul Scheer [00:45:16] Four or five. Yeah, that’s it.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:20] But if you do that, you should also link all of the blank check episodes that they did about all those movies.

Paul Scheer [00:45:25] Oh, yeah. So great. So good.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:26] I’ll throw out a couple of other because Morgan mentioned bookstores, so I’ll throw out four comics and graphic novels and so forth. Secret Headquarters, which is now located in Atwater Village.

Paul Scheer [00:45:40] New location. It’s great. Yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:42] Skyline Books.

Paul Scheer [00:45:43] Skyline or Skylight?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:46] Skylight. I’m so sorry. You’re right. Skylight books on, on, on vermont is a great independent bookstore that’s worth checking out.

Paul Scheer [00:45:53] As well as the last bookstore down downtown. Giant. Like, like crazy old school. Like, it’s in downtown L.A. It’s just a multi-level space just packed to the gills with books. This is a cool spot to be in.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:10] I’m trying to think of, like, oh, and like, you know, you mentioned comedy, so, of course, check out the Largo schedule. Check out the Elision theater in Frogtown. Dynasty Typewriter in I think. Is it in Koreatown? Where’s Dynasty?

Paul Scheer [00:46:25] Yeah, Koreatown. That makes sense. I’ll give out those sushi places to the place that I really love. And I couldn’t remember the exact name of it Go’s Mart. Go’s Mart is in a strip mall in Canoga Park, and it’s a little far to get to, but it truly is the best sushi I’ve ever had. There’s no physical menu there, okay. And you just go and get whatever they’re going to give you. And there’s a new place in Atwater Village that June just went to called Morihiro. That’s apparently fantastic, but that’s a little bit more of a upscale, a full Japanese dining experience. Go’s Mart is like sushi. Great. Extreme. Love it. Okay, so good.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:15] Oh, that sounds awesome. I don’t know. I’m trying to think of other like, there’s. I mean, there’s a million music venues. I tend to go to the smaller ones, like shows that are playing at like, Zebulon or, you know, some, some more.

Paul Scheer [00:47:28] What was that place we saw Mannequin Pussy because that place is great, too. Or maybe it’s the ballroom?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:34] Oh, Teragram.

Paul Scheer [00:47:35] Teragram. That’s a great room.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:37] That’s a great it’s a beautiful room. Sounds great. Teragram. Zebulon. I’m trying to think, oh, there’s a website. There’s a thing I think it’s called Oh, My Rockness is the is the website and you can select LA. There’s a they do it for a couple of different cities, and it aggregates all the concerts that are happening in that town, including like, you know, How Did This Get Made at Largo will be listed but you know, the rest of it is comedy. Anything that’s a venue has is on this. It’s aggregated onto this one website. So it’s pretty good.

Paul Scheer [00:48:09] You know, I like that. Also, if you’re in town on a weekend long weekend, we’re talking about the Smorgasburg, which is down in downtown LA. Just it’s a vendor specific awesome. You know, food, everything. It’s great. It’s it’s a full it’s just it’s just a fun way to hang out in downtown L.A., get a little taste that’s a lot of different places.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:30] And then depending on what what weekend of the month you’re here, if it happens to fall on the weekend when the Rose Bowl flea market is happening out at the Rose Bowl on a Sunday, you’re not going to get a better Sunday afternoon than getting a coffee and wandering around a gigantic flea market for hours.

Paul Scheer [00:48:48] I mean, that’s wonderful. That’s a good such a good. And I’m going to, you know, say this again as someone who’s been really enjoying this, if you’re here during the soccer season, going to see the women’s soccer league out here, it’s amazing. That stadium is fantastic. It’s LAFC is the the male version and Angel City is the women’s soccer team. And I’ve been to both. I love them both.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:15] I haven’t been.

Paul Scheer [00:49:16] Angel City games are the most fun.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:18] If you’re going sometime. Okay, I’ll go.

Paul Scheer [00:49:20] Oh, you’ll love it. It’s really, really fun. As a matter of fact, Messi was just in town here and it was and he just played this weekend. But Angel City, they play in the stadium here. It’s the stadium is just beautiful. It’s it’s like it’s like it’s just outside in L.A. right by the museums and stuff like that. Yeah, I love it.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:41] And I don’t know if this is a spoiler, but we have Messi on next week’s episode of the show, right?

Paul Scheer [00:49:46] Yeah, he’s going to be talking about. It’s so weird he doesn’t really want to talk about the new Saw movie was like, we don’t really do new movies but he’s got one just he’s really held his spot.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:57] Messi is a huge How Did This Get Made fan.

Paul Scheer [00:50:01] Oh my God.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:02] Like you know that he whenever he scores a goal he screams Geostorm.

Paul Scheer [00:50:05] Yes. And that and.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:06] By the way if you are if you are a professional athlete, professional athlete, and you listen to this podcast, get in touch, get in touch. We need to know what you’re up to. And when you’d score a goal or get a home run in your sport, we need you to start shouting, How Did This Get Made catchphrases.

Paul Scheer [00:50:25] I’m down with that. I mean, you know, it was.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:28] People screaming Baba Booey at golf games.

Paul Scheer [00:50:31] I don’t want that. I don’t want people. No, no, I don’t want you to be in the crowd.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:34] No, not distracting. In the game.

Paul Scheer [00:50:35] Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:37] I want it to be the person themselves.

Paul Scheer [00:50:39] Yes, exactly. Like when the U.S. opens on like the the when they win, different players have, like a little thing that they do. And I feel like, you know, they’d be perfect. You know, you have a whole year to come up with the next thing you can do.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:50] Can you imagine if you are an athlete and you’re like, and every time you score or do the do whatever is impactful in your sport and you just started screaming geostorm big, loud and long. And then the audience, the live stadium started doing it as well. Come on. Or if you got a whole stadium of 35,000 people to just start screaming, Fuck the moon, fuck the moon.

Paul Scheer [00:51:15] Fuck the moon would be the best thing to be yelling out loud. It just it’s I love that pin. We made that pin. Okay, Jason, I feel like, you know, we gave her a bunch of great things to do in LA.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:28] I think so. I thought, I think those are some pretty good recommendations, especially if you those are all like, local. Yes, those are. That’s not like, Oh, come and see the Hollywood sign.

Paul Scheer [00:51:38] So there’s a lot to do, but I hope this gave you a good enough a good enough start.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:43] Can I, can I just shout out a few things, if you don’t mind, Paul? Yeah, I one of the last time we talked about this, I, we were talking about you were. You had asked me. Specifically, I think. How do you find new music or about finding new music or so forth? And we were talking about some stuff and I mentioned how much record stores were so integral in impactful to me for finding new music and getting turned on to new stuff. And specifically, I mentioned Aquarius Records in San Francisco. Iconic record store R.I.P.. And I asked when the documentary called It Came from Aquarius is coming out. I got an answer and the producers sent me a link to watch the movie. So I have watched the documentary. It was incredible. It made me so deeply nostalgic and so, so kind of melancholy for the end of this kind of, you know, I wrote I even wrote stuff down from watching it because there was an element to it which I was like, Exactly what you and I were talking about, you know, is what is what is what the documentary is so much about. It’s about creating community around music, around all of this excitement for discovery, not just, hey, here’s the new here’s the new New Pornographers record, but hey, you just walked through the door. Do you want a record that is just Neil Hamburger making prank phone calls or do you want a four CD box set that is just shortwave radio broadcasts from the fifties? Like, how can I give you weirder stuff anyway? There’s a great there’s a couple of great quotes in it. One of the guys says “It felt like a tourist attraction for weirdos.” And I was like, Yes, that’s what it was like. And somebody else in it says, “It’s a maniac store.” And that to me, I was like, That’s exciting. When you walk in some place and, you know, and Amoeba gets at this, it’s just much bigger. You what’s in there is not just the records you know about, but a tremendous amount of stuff. You have no idea. And it’s just waiting for you to discover it.

Paul Scheer [00:53:48] Well, the way that I the way that I always experience Amoeba was something that was so interesting. I was in San Francisco. I had never been before. It was like my first kind of solo trip alone. I was walking around. I heard Amoeba was great. I went there and and I found these VHS tapes of like celebrity bloopers, and they were not put out by anybody specific. And it was CDs and videotapes. It seemed like they were almost homemade, and it was just a collection of the weirdest shit. And I was like, Oh my God, I have this. I was so excited with, like Orson Welles outtakes and, you know, and just like, you know, William Shatner, like, kind of yelling at somebody. Like, it was it felt like I found this kindred spirit. It’s like where I found, like, the unaired pilot of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, you know, like, yeah, like that. Like, it was, like, so fun.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:49] Yeah. And that’s what these stories used to be like. And the fact that they’re gone, the the kind of place that is lampooned in a way or kind of, you know, made fun of a bit in High Fidelity when, you know, John Cusack’s like, I’m about to sell five copies of the Beta Band, three EP’s. Yeah, just by playing one song. But there is an element of like even like the Aquarius records, they talk. There’s a big chunk of the documentary where they talk about the list because every two weeks they would send out an email list of all little blurb reviews of all this new music, and it was so well-written and so compelling that you would buy stuff simply based on their recommendation.

Paul Scheer [00:55:30] That’s all I want.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:31] And there’s all these people that are in the documentary being like, Yeah, that’s how I ended up with all these Circle records, which and I laughed so hard because I have all those Circle records as well that it’s like an incredible psychedelic Finnish rock band. I think they’re from Finland and that Aquarius was just so obsessed with this band and we’re so good at talking about how obsessed they were that it got a whole generation of people who read their breakdowns, obsessed with this Finnish rock band called Circle and all their ancillary shoot off bands, offshoot bands. Great, incredible stuff. Loved it.

Paul Scheer [00:56:03] That’s what I want. I love that. I need it.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:06] Really fun. But it makes me it makes me bummed because it’s really hard to find that same kind of curation, that same kind of recommendation engine. And that’s what’s a bummer. And how do you try.

Paul Scheer [00:56:18] Really, That’s the whole thing you don’t know who you trust.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:21] And I will say just for shits and gigs if you’re interested, the other documentary that I will recommend is the one about the record store in New York called Other Music. Oh, that’s that was another long standing record store that I used to go to all the time that had a similar vibe as Aquarius in terms of recommending very unique and interesting stuff. I’ll also shout out a couple of other YouTube channels just because I’m trying to point people towards stuff that isn’t struck.

Paul Scheer [00:56:47] Yes.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:56:48] Our friend Rob Huebel recently was the guest host of Sandwiches of History. Yes. Which which I was shocked because I just watch that show. And then here’s Hubel doing one. I was delighted. Action Bronson’s show Fuck, that’s delicious. Is now just running new episodes on YouTube that are absolutely hilarious and fantastic. And then, Scott, can you put in some air horn sounds? Here we go. [airhorns] Okay. Mannequin Pussy, New music.

Paul Scheer [00:57:22] Oh, yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:23] The album is called I Got or this song is called I Got Heaven. It’s out now. It’s fantastic. Please listen to the new Mannequin Pussy. I’ll also throw out the band Zebra has an incredible album called Bird Hour. New music from the band Pile. Fantastic. Career Woman, fantastic. New album from Alabaster de Plume. Incredible. New music from Fivel is Glock, the French band. Great. And a new album from from Jamie Branch, jazz trumpet player who died recently. The album is inexplicably called Fly or Die. Fly or Die. Fly or Die. Parentheses. Parentheses. World War. Close Parentheses. Close Parentheses. I believe that’s right. I love that album is incredible. Beautiful. And it’s a heartbreaking loss to the world of jazz and improvised music.

Paul Scheer [00:58:15] All right, This is great. Jason, a pleasure as always. We’ll talk soon.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:20] Yay. (Fart Noise)

Jason Mantzoukas [00:58:23] Thank you, Jason. Remember, you can call us anytime with a question at 619-PAUL-ASK. That’s 619-PAUL-ASK. Now that we got Jonathan Livingston Seagull out of the way, let’s talk about next week’s movie. We are saying goodbye to the songs of Neil Diamond and hello to the screams of Lou Diamond Phillips. That’s right on. How Did This Get Made diamonds are forever. And next week we are watching the 1999 horror movie Bats, starring Lou Diamond Phillips and Dina meyer. If you don’t know anything about bats, you’re going to love it. Basically, genetically mutated bats escape a government lab and terrorize a small Texas town. It is up to a bat expert and a local sheriff to stop them. And I’ll let you decide who is who. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film an 18% score on the tomato meters. Scott Weisberg at EFilmcritic.com writes, “Bats attacking bad actors. Sounds good to me.” By the way, this movie is dope. Listen to the trailer for Bats.

Trailer Audio [00:59:24] Are you saying some kind of bat did this? The bats that we’re talking about, they’re very special. Evacuate the town immediately. This isn’t going to work. I know what these things are capable of. Houston. We got a problem.

Paul Scheer [00:59:46] All right. That is it for the show. Remember, tickets are on sale now for How Did This Get Made’s fall tour. Check us out. Go to HDTGM.com to find out where we are, what movies we’re doing and all that good stuff. You can also buy your tickets right there. And while you’re remembering stuff, remember to rate and reviews. It helps. It really does help. Recommend us to your friends. It helps. And if you listen on Apple Podcasts, make sure you’re following us. It, guess what, helps. And we are always on social media doing stuff. A big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonne and Molly Reynolds, our movie picking producer, Avril Halley, our engineers Casey Holford and Rich Garcia, and of course, Jess Cisneros, who makes our amazing social media videos. We will see you next week for Bats. And to quote the opening credits of Jonathan Livingston Seagull. I’d like to dedicate this entire Last Looks episode to the real Jonathan Livingston Seagull, who lives within all of us. Bye for now.

Neil Diamond [01:00:44] Lonely looking sky and lonely sky. And lonely. Low in the sky. And being lonely. Makes you wonder why.