EP. 333.5 — Last Looks: Munchies & The Dog Who Saved Christmas

Paul Scheer [00:00:00] A munchie scholar checks in. We talk about the gift of gingerbread houses and we do a hair check on Mario Lopez. All this and more on today’s Last Looks. Hit the theme.

Music [00:00:15] [Last Looks Theme]

Paul Scheer [00:00:38] Hello to all my munchie lovers and my fellow dog perverts. I’m your host, Paul Scheer, and welcome to this very special supersized edition of How Did This Get Made Last Looks. You might be wondering, Paul, why is it special? Why is it so precise? Well, we took a little break over Thanksgiving. So this episode is going to address both of our last films, Munchies and the Dog Who Saved Christmas. And if that is not enough, now, the actor strike is finally over. Jason and I can once again chat about all things TV and movies that we are currently loving. Plus, as always, I will reveal next week’s movie and I will share a couple of exclusive bonus scenes from our last two episodes. So that’s why it’s a special supersized dish. People, it is the season of giving, and I am giving you a big old episode. But first of all, a big shout out to Dan from Rochester. Dan, I love that theme song. That was awesome. What a great way to start off this episode. And you know what? I don’t just love Dan from Rochester. I love everybody who sends in a theme song. If you have one that you want to send for this program, the Last Looks program, send it into HowDidThisGetMade@earwolf.com but keep them short just like Dan did. That’s perfect. And now I have a very special non announcement. Yes. Because on Monday we are going to have a big announcement, but I can’t officially tell you what that is yet. But I will tell you, if you live in Europe, you’re going to want to pay attention to our social media channels on December 11th, because How Did This Get Made Has a very big announcement. Okay. So I think most of you can put that together. It might be the first time something is happening with our show and Europe. Again, I can’t announce it, but I feel like I’ve given you plenty of context clues to put it together. Remember Monday, December 11th. Stay tuned to our social media channels and find out more. All right. People thought that was a pretty good clue. Let’s get into it. During our last two episodes, we talked at length about both munchies and the dog who saved Christmas. We had questions and we might have even missed a few things. Here’s your chance to set a straight, you know, fact check us, if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. Hit the theme.

Music [00:03:06] [Corrections and Omissions Theme]

Paul Scheer [00:03:35] Thank you, Anyhow Blues for that great theme. Up first, we’ll be talking about Munchies, a film that Dischord user PNWPPaloma. So that’s PNWPPaloma thought could have had the tagline, “We won’t help you with these munchies.” Well, like that. That was actually really, that may be my favorite tagline that we’ve had since we started doing these taglines. All right, let’s go to The Discord. Sean McB writes, “There is a chapter on munchies in Francesco Borcetti’s book. It came from the 80s in which the writer, director, cinematographer and munchie designer are all interviewed. It answers a lot of the questions the gang had and brings up another. So here’s what I learned. According to the writer Lance Smith, Roger Corman wanted a scene where Arnold ate the dude’s hash brownies, inspiring the name Munchies. Corman changed his mind about the scene, but the name stuck.” I like that. Okay, that makes some sense. “The writer also made himself a personal promise that if he ever got to do a creature feature, he’d have the dead head die first just because there’s such. This is a quote. Annoying assholes.” Wow. Coming out the Deadheads. “The writer also confirms that the Monkees are not aliens. Okay. But does not tell us what they are. Interesting. Director Tina Hirsch made her directorial debut on this film, having previously been an editor on three of Roger Corman’s movies. He knew she wanted to direct and selected her for this movie because she had been the editor on Gremlins, which we did talk about. Or maybe we edited that out, but we did know that. Hirsch also noted that in Gremlins, it took five people to operate each puppet, but on munchies they had a single person operating two puppets simultaneously, and they didn’t even build any elevated sets to allow room for the puppeteers.” No shit. We saw it. The puppetry sucked. “They also filmed an entire opening sequence showing how the munchies were created a thousand years ago in a Mayan cave. But it got cut.” Well, we need to see that deleted scene. “Cinematographer Jonathan West gave answers on the budget question. 1.2 million.” Wow. Did a lot of that go to Harvey Korman? Or like, did Harvey Korman request payment twice? I don’t know. I want to get to the bottom of that. “Lastly, my own note from the book. I’m surprised that no one noticed that the crazy driving granny, who was oddly ADR’d by a clearly much younger person doing an old lady impression, was actually Ellen Dao, best known as the rapping granny from the Wedding Singer.” Huh. How do we not call out the rapping Granny? There’s been so many of them. And why wouldn’t you use the rapping grannies voice? Anyway, then Farm Boy writes in to discuss the audience member in the episode who identified himself as a space lawyer saying “Space law is actually a recognized field in law, and space lawyer is apparently a real term. McGill Faculty of Law in Montreal offers a master’s degree in air and space law, and the University of Mississippi School of Law publishes the world’s only law journal devoted to space law. Meanwhile, Michelle Hanlon is a prominent example of a space lawyer.” All right. Thank you, farm boy. I hope that the space lawyer did not pay you to write that. But yeah, you learn something new. That’s what I love about this show. This show is like New York Times, The Daily. You’re learning about things that we never even knew were possible. And now we all know about space law. And it will now be the premise of my brand new NBC sitcom. Space lawyer Matty Ice writes “For those keeping track, Frank Welker, who voiced some of the munchies, has now been a voice part in 15 How Did This Get Made movies.” Whoa, He’s been in munchies, TMNT ,  Hudson Hawk, Super Mario Brothers, The Shadow, Mortal Kombat, Virtuosity, The Island of Dr. Moreau, Space Jam, Anaconda, Godzilla, Deep Blue Sea, Transformers: Rise of the Fallen, The Backup Plan and the Smurfs.” Pretty incredible run. Well done, Frank. I love it. Let’s go to the phones. Anthony from Providence, you’re on.

Listener [00:07:40] Hey Paul, really enjoyed the Munchies episode while watching the film, I thought the actor who plays dude looked really familiar, so I looked him up. Turns out the actor John Stafford, who’s a really good character actor, also played Doc in Full Metal Jacket. That’s a small part, but it is a speaking role. And what’s funny is that Munchies and Full Metal Jacket both came out in the same year, 1987 and the first two credits on his resume. So he literally went from dying on the battlefield in the famous sniper scene in Kubrick’s Full Metal Jacket to getting killed by alien hand puppets, which I thought was just really wild. Anyway, so take it easy.

Paul Scheer [00:08:17] What? My mind is blown. Talk about highs and lows in one year. I love that. Wow. Imagine, you know, you’re hanging out on set with Kubrick. He’s like, oh, what you’ve been working on? Just this. The munchies and. I love. I love it. I love it. I love it. All right. Let’s hear from Carolyn in Dallas.

Listener [00:08:41] Hi, guys. I was just listening to the munchies and you guys talk about how Paul’s mom would say it must be jelly because jam don’t shake like that. And I remembered that RuPaul actually says that multiple times on Drag Race. And I think I think she might even have a song called that. But I also looked it up. And apparently it must be jelly because Jam Don’t Shake Like That is a 1942 jazz and pop song recorded by Glenn Miller and his orchestra. So that phrase has been around for a long time. It’s something that people say. So Jason was wrong that Paul’s mom was saying stuff that people don’t say. So anyway, love the show and hopefully you’ll come to Dallas sometime soon. Thanks so much. Bye.

Paul Scheer [00:09:34] Yes, Thank you, Carolyn. That I knew it. My mom is in that clever to come up with that on her own. And damn you, Jason. I knew it was from something, but I didn’t do the research. You did. I appreciate that. You did. And you know what? As a matter of fact, let’s hear a little bit of that original song, The Glen Miller original right now.

Music [00:09:57] [Must be Jelly, Cause Jam Don’t Shake like That]

Paul Scheer [00:10:13] Pretty damn catchy. That’s a banger. And now let’s hear RuPaul’s song. Let’s see.

Music [00:10:20] [RuPaul’s Must be Jelly Song]

Paul Scheer [00:10:33] Yes. I am basking in the glory of being right. And by the way, you’re welcome for me introducing you to some new hits. I mean, this should be going up on the charts pretty quickly. All right. Let’s hear it now from Amy in Baltimore.

Listener [00:10:48] Hey Paul, I was at the DC show for munchies, had an amazing time, and I have been waiting very patiently for the release of the episode so that I could call and ask you this question. So listening to How Does Get Made brings me so much joy. But nothing delights me more than when you share the amazing stories from your childhood. So what I would love to know is when will you be releasing your memoir? And can I be first in line to get a copy? I am dying to hear your answer. Thank you so much and take care.

Music [00:11:22] Amy, this is a great question. As a matter of fact, May. May is when my book is coming out. Yeah, It’s called Joyful Recollections of Trauma. I’m in the midst of kind of finalizing it right now. It’s not officially announced, but if you look around, you can preorder a copy right now. So more on that soon. But May the 21st Joyful Recollections of Trauma by Me, Paul Scheer. Some stories that you might have heard here on the podcast and some stories that you might be surprised by, I don’t know. I’m putting it together right now, or we’re just kind of adding some stuff back in. I like it. I’m excited for it. I hope you all like it too. But yes, May 21st, mark your calendar. You can be first in line because you asked. All right. Now, we’ve had so many great corrections, omissions. We are going to take a quick break before diving into your thoughts on the dog who saved Christmas. But first, enjoy the short deleted scene from our Munchie show where we learn an interesting fact about the main character’s shoes. Be right back.

Paul Scheer [00:12:26] I’m here with Mike. Mike?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:27] Lindell?

Paul Scheer [00:12:28] Not Mike Lindell.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:12:30] My pillow?

Paul Scheer [00:12:31] Mike on The Discord brought up something interesting, which I think is worthy of mentioning.

Audience Member [00:12:37] Throughout the entire movie. The lead actor wears a 1985 pair of Jordan ones, which just had their own movie in air and just watched get covered in dirt and grime and mud. And at one point, he actually jumps into a body of water to help the girls. Those shoes today.

June Diane Raphael [00:12:58] Cindy.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:01] No, no. I think the cheerleader girls, the two other ones.

June Diane Raphael [00:13:03] Okay.

Audience Member [00:13:04] The tire girls.

June Diane Raphael [00:13:05] Go ahead Mike.

Audience Member [00:13:05] A used pair of those in that condition would go for anywhere from 1500 to 3 grand. And if there were any left on set, those brand new shoes sell for anywhere from 30,000 to $52,000 currently online.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:13:23] I would never have assumed that sneaker culture. And How Did This Get Made fans would overlap in a Venn diagram at all? I not only did not notice the sneakers in this movie. Even if I had, I wouldn’t have known any of that. That’s wild.

Paul Scheer [00:13:44] All right. Welcome back. That is enough of munchies. You know, you might be thinking, Paul, you didn’t say who won. Well, you know what? I’m not going to pick a winner just from the munchies. I’m going to pick a winner that is a combined winner. Who is the best question, concern, correction and omission amongst both shows. So that’s really it’s a tough for the tougher. I don’t know, tougher jump to make, I guess. That’s not a perfect metaphor, but I’m going to stick to it. A tougher jump to make anyway. Let’s get into corrections and omissions from the dog who saved Christmas, a movie that Discord user The Christmas Martian Anna thinks could have had the tagline “Bark the Herald Angels sing.” I like it. Nice. All right, let’s go to Discord. And speaking of the Christmas, Martin Anna, she writes, “Can someone please explain to me why the cat is named Chigwei? I also if the grandma lives so far away, how is she frequently going to karaoke night with Bobo Kevin James’ neighbor lady.” Oh, wow. Maybe she lived there earlier on. Or. Or maybe. Wow, that makes actually no sense. Again, we talked about this in the show. That movie was heavily improvised and no one was fact checking. No one was saying that makes no sense. It was like, let’s go. Let’s keep it moving. We just needed a joke about singing Hanukkah songs at karaoke, which already I feel like let’s not even call that much attention out to that one. GT75 says, “Another weird choice for me was building that gingerbread house when the home is known to have a mouse problem. I would think the last thing they would want sitting out is a huge cookie structure that they said took two weeks to build. Surely if Zeus is just chasing the mice, he could have knocked over anything fragile.” You know what? Now you’re really getting in the weeds here, GT75. I appreciate a good correction omission, but there are so many things wrong with that gingerbread house. I think that building one where there is a mouse problem is the least of the problems. I think you could cover that up just fine. I get it. But we’re really I mean, if you’re picking at that, like you’re treating this movie like it’s Oppenheimer, I mean, that’s that is a real a real underneath the carpet one, again, a phrase no one uses. Underneath the carpet. JayZ23, also has some gingerbread house thoughts. Oh, wow. Geez. Okay. “Regarding the gingerbread house, the mom said this is the only thing she, the grandma, wants for Christmas. Why does the grandma want a gingerbread house? And what is she going to do with it?” Well, first of all, eat it. Second of all, it’s a nice thing, like, don’t spend money on me. Make something for me. I would love you all to to put your time and energy into a beautiful gingerbread house. I like that sentiment. I think it’s a big ask, honestly. And why did they have to make it? They could have probably just lied and bought one. I mean, that was that thing was a mess. I tried to make one from targeted gingerbread. It looked like a damn shame. That is going to be easy. It’s not easy. Gingerbread houses are hard. Just go buy one and let the professionals do it. Sean McB writes, “I found Adrian Barboza’s line ‘that’s what happens when you outlive most of your family.’ Absolutely chilling. Because hear me out. Barbeau is only 64 when this movie comes out. So either that land was intended for a woman 20 years older than her or this cat lady has had a tragic fucking life that is far and away more compelling than anything else going on in this movie. And it makes me want to see her movie.” Sean, Wow. Oof. That is a that’s a rough moment there. I mean. But if she is playing 20 years older, then it’s kind of fine. You think she’s playing 64? I don’t know. Woof. Rough. All right. Back to the phones. We have Anna from Los Angeles.

Listener [00:17:34] Hi, Jason, Paul, and June. The dogs who saved Christmas. There was a great audience question, but I find I found myself yelling at my phone that she failed to mention that Michael Fifer, the director of this film, also directed another How Did This Get Made classic, The 12 Pups of Christmas. He has a great record for this podcast. And I think we now need a spinoff podcast that watches his entire filmography, or at least the sequels to The Dog Day Christmas. Thanks. Bye.

Paul Scheer [00:18:06] What? I did not realize that I had all the credits. I didn’t see it. And even Discord User Lizard Breath mentioned this fact and added “Since the podcast has done two of Michael Pfeiffer’s Christmas movies, can we please do one of his murder movies next? Based on the titles alone, I vote for my daughter’s psycho Friend or Here Kills the Bride.” Oh, I am so in. We have to tell Avril about this. By the way, 12 Pups of Christmas will be our next matinee Monday episode. So we will tip the hat once again to this director who has provided us with so much entertainment. Next up. Emma

Listener [00:18:46] Hi. I’m calling about the dog that saved Christmas. I was actually at the show and wanted to ask this question. Is there a reason why, when the cops are taking the white bandits away, Joey the character is not wearing handcuffs. He’s just holding both of his hands in front of him, his wrists together as if he was wearing them. But absolutely nothing on him.

Paul Scheer [00:19:18] Oh, my God. Emma, I’m looking at a still of it right now. You are 100% right. His hands are just over each other. What a week. Why not? You would think that even renting that outfit, you’d get cuffs. No cuffs. That is absolute. I want to start. This is a picture I want in my house. I think this should be like a Christmas picture I put over the mantel. Let’s go to LJ from Rancho Cucamonga. Love that.

Listener [00:19:45] Watching the Dogs and save Christmas. And you said it was from the ABC family. 25 days countdown to Christmas. And when they do the exterior shot of the grove at about two, only two minutes and 55 seconds, then you see a billboard for the countdown to the 25 days of Christmas. So my question is, did they shoot this a year in advance and put that in or was that footage filmed mere weeks or days before this film got put on TV? Thanks.

Paul Scheer [00:20:18] Okay, LJ, I like your thought process on this, that it was shot just days before, but ABC Family’s 25 Days of Christmas is a yearly thing, so I bet you this is shot at the year before. I don’t think they were just getting that like top of the movie right out before. But who knows? Honestly, with a movie like this, I don’t know. But yes, ABC’s family 25 Days of Christmas is the thing. I think it’s going on right now. As a matter of fact, we’re missing it. But if anyone can prove LJ right, let me know. All right. And now back to the Discord for one last comment from Dog Pervert Idiot who comments “This is the hairiest character that Mario Lopez has ever played.” Wow. Finally, we got some hair on Lopez. I love it. This has been a wild week. So many great corrections and omissions, but there can only be one one winner that really encapsulates the spirit of the show. And I have to say, you all, you brought it, you brought it to me, and I felt really good. But I have to say, the person who I am giving this to is the person who got my back, who proved me right. It took a while, but she came to help me. Carolyn from Dallas, you are our winner. That’s right. And you get this amazing theme from Seth Chatfield. Hit it.

Music [00:21:44] [Winner’s Song]

Paul Scheer [00:22:01] Thank you so much for all these questions and omissions. And if you want to submit an alt movie tag line or chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit us up on the discord at discord.gg/HDTGM or call us at 619-PAUL-ASK. Coming up, Jason and I will chat about all the TV shows, movies, podcasts, books and so many other things that we can finally talk about again. And I will reveal next week’s movie. But first, enjoy this deleted scene from The Dog Who Saved Christmas, where we talk about the actors who appear in the rest of the dog who’s saved sequels.

Paul Scheer [00:22:34] Now Adrienne Barbeau is in, too, but this is where it gets crazy. Paris Hilton, Casper Van Behan, Catherine Oxenberg are in the sequel.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:51] Just number two?

Paul Scheer [00:22:51] Just number two. Lance Henriksen.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:56] What? Lance Henriksen?

Paul Scheer [00:23:00] Yes. And sorry, I was. I always have a hard time pronouncing her name. Maya.

June Diane Raphael [00:23:04] Maya Angelou?

Paul Scheer [00:23:05] No.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:07] Maya Angelou?

Paul Scheer [00:23:10] No.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:12] And under everyone’s seat is a book of her poetry.

Paul Scheer [00:23:16] Poet laureate for a reason. Curtis Armstrong.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:22] Booker?

Paul Scheer [00:23:23] Yes. Are in the Halloween.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:26] Great.

Paul Scheer [00:23:28] Shelley Long comes in for. Shelley Long and Michael Gross from Family Ties.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:23:36] Legends.

Paul Scheer [00:23:38] Michael Gross played my dad on NTSF. He’s a lovely man.

June Diane Raphael [00:23:41] He was also in Grace and Frankie.

Paul Scheer [00:23:43] A great, great guy. Nicole Eggert comes in for Easter. And then the bad guy from Karate Kid, Martin Kove, who plays Sensei John Kreese in the original Karate Kid with Johnny from The Karate Kid, William Zabka, come in for summer.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:10] Are they their characters from The Karate Kid?

Paul Scheer [00:24:12] I would only assume yes.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:14] I would believe it if this was a crossover.

Paul Scheer [00:24:17] I have a feeling a lot of these people are doing dog work because I’m looking. Oh, because William Zabka plays Apollo. I imagine that that’s not a human name. But we’ll see, because I do believe we should throw the gantlet down to ourselves to.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:32] Please don’t. Please. Please really consider what you’re about to say.

Paul Scheer [00:24:40] I’ll let the audience decide. And let the audience decide here. I mean, I feel like they want it. I feel like. I feel like over the course of some time at Easter, we do Easter. At summer, we do summer. At Halloween, we do Halloween, and we got two more Christmases.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:04] Fine, we’ll do it.

Paul Scheer [00:25:12] This is our new Fast and Furious.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:25:13] I will say that I don’t want to do the last one in this series that they just announced, which is the dog that saved the kids from being human trafficked. Caviezel is in it. It’s a sequel to The Sound of Freedom, and it’s a hard pass from me.

Paul Scheer [00:25:31] Welcome back, people. You know this. Every Monday we are releasing an old episode back into the feed. We’re trying to keep this whole thing going. We had the great Jack Frost with Dan Harmon on last week. We have now. Snow Dad is better than no dad. We have those as a How Did This Get Made ugly sweater which you can get on Podswag. We have a geostorm ugly sweater. You know Podswag. They are great looking. Also because like I mentioned earlier, this week’s matinee Monday is going to be a replay of another Canine Christmas classic, The 12 pups of Christmas done by the same director of the dog who saved Christmas. This guy loves Christmas and he loves dogs and we love him. All right. So keep on checking out these replays. Every Monday, they’ll be in your stream. And now let’s welcome Jason Mantzoukas back to the show for a little just chat. Seth Chatfield place and one more time.

Music [00:26:21] [Just Chat Intro]

Paul Scheer [00:26:39] Jason, the strike is over. And finally, we can get back to what we love doing, which is talking about things that we are watching.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:48] All the things we’re obsessed with.

Paul Scheer [00:26:50] Things that are made by giant corporations.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:53] We can.

Paul Scheer [00:26:54] Finally our love is back.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:26:56] Now we can go from fighting these giant corporations to singing their praises.

Paul Scheer [00:27:01] Oh, how quickly we turned.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:04] You did it again, Lucasfilm.

Paul Scheer [00:27:08] Oh, my God. Well, you know, I was just happy that it happened.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:11] I will say, like I was. I will say I was going through my, like, things to talk about list. Yeah. And because I keep on kind of just ongoing. Yeah. And, but but for these, you know, six, seven months, I’ve only been putting stuff on there that is not from these companies. So there’s I still have stuff on here to talk about that is non that was strike proof stuff to talk about so. Okay. So I will have a few things.

Paul Scheer [00:27:39] Well I like that. I think the one thing that, you know, someone said to me early on like, are you so excited the strike is over because now that it is you and Jason and talk about Moonlighting and oh, you and I got to talk about it briefly when we’re on tour, but my God, I’m.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:56] Isn’t it incredible? It’s incredible. I’m like I’m two seasons into it. The whole of moonlighting. If you’ve listened to us talk about it before, has been unavailable for streaming until just last month. Yes, it is now available on Hulu for the very first time and it is an exceptional television.

Paul Scheer [00:28:16] Bruce Willis, Cybill Shepherd. Here’s the thing, and I think this is what I was never really able to articulate. Maybe it’s been because it’s been gone for such a long time. You know how they like Die Hard was a obviously a huge movie. And then people tried to ape that style of Die Hard over and over again and to varying degrees of success. Bruce Willis. What he does as an actor in this is something that people tried to ape to varying degrees of success and because of How Did This Get Made, I think that we often see people doing bad Bruce Willis impressions and seeing him do it after years of not.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:51] Yeah, it’s interesting because exactly what you’re saying is true. This this was such an impactful TV show culturally. Yeah. The performance was so game changing for Bruce Willis. For TV. It was such an incredible performance. And as was simple Shepard, the show is incredible, but its absence means all you’ve it’s like it’s like the De la Soul albums being out of print for all these years. And in a way, now that they’re finally available, people are discovering just how significant they were to all of hip hop history because they were so meaningful at the time for so many people, but then were basically the equivalent of out of print. You know, you could not get them. They were not streaming. They weren’t available. You couldn’t watch these performances, you couldn’t watch Moonlighting. And so all we’ve lived in is everything it inspired and all the tacky rip offs.

Paul Scheer [00:29:50] And I think the other thing that I’ve really come to appreciate, again, I didn’t know this as a child, but Cybill Shepherd, like Sybil Shepherd is awesome. And she plays it really well. And I feel like, you know, he obviously gets so much attention and he’s great, but it’s like, I really I just didn’t know her. I didn’t know her. Like, I didn’t even understand what she was when I was a kid, but that she was this person in a way.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:14] Well, it’s so interesting to me because I agree. And, you know, but to me, it was Dave and Matty. Yes. Like it wasn’t even Bruce Willis and Cybill Shepherd. Like, obviously, I didn’t know who Bruce Willis was at the time. But I mean, I had like a passing understanding of Cybill Shepherd. She was had been in movies and on shows forever, you know, But even still, it didn’t matter. They were just Dave and Maddie to me.

Paul Scheer [00:30:36] I had no idea.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:37] That their chemistry is crackling. It’s like. It’s like Rosalind Russell and Cary Grant and his girl Friday. It is like incredible screwball comedy. Case of the week detective stories. It’s the fucking best.

Paul Scheer [00:30:53] But I will say this. If you have never watched the show and you have no allegiance to it, you might feel like we are overselling it. If you’re watching the first episode because the first episode is, Oh yeah, it’s a great pilot, but it’s 90 minutes and it takes it takes a beat to figure out exactly.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:11] Well, like like a lot of TV time, it’s slow. It’s just slow, you know.

Paul Scheer [00:31:16] And it’s really good. But it’s but it is funny. It’s like I was like I was showing it to June and I think I remember this now. I remember the lines from that pilot. Like, I remember so many things, but it’s 90. It’s a 90 minute pilot for an hour long show where. Like in. Like the first 20 minutes, I feel like Bruce Willis is not in it. You’re like.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:31:39] No, because it’s you have to first understand the crime. Then you have to understand Maddie Hayes And then only then do you get into who is David Addison.

Paul Scheer [00:31:47] Yeah, it’s really like. So I would say, like, at least give it, like, get through the pilot. Watch an episode or two, and then you’ll see what we’re talking about. But if you’re watching it cold that I was realizing like June was like, I’m into this.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:01] But yeah, I will say and I wonder if you have any this is an interesting question. There are very few pilot episodes, first episodes of a TV show that I think are themselves incredible or are themselves incredible representations of the show to come. I find most shows pilots are a little wonky, a little off, and when it does hit right, your Twin Peaks. Your, you know, some of the other things that I think are unimpeachable, fantastic Arrested Development are just kind of like, wow, this is incredible. Everything else, you’re like, okay, this is like 65% there. They you know, it takes a little bit.

Paul Scheer [00:32:42] Right. The the voices and the tone was there. And it’s like, I think I’m reacting to you. It’s like you get into the fun stuff, like all the characters are there, they’re clean. It’s like, But then the show just moves the pace. The pacing of the show is so fast and you’re there in the scenes, But like the plot of the first episode is it’s wild. It’s I mean, I just love television like that.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:02] Oh, and it’s also I will say it’s a great L.A. show. It’s a great 80s, L.A. styles, hairstyles, the clothing styles, just 80s. L.A. is very much on display. And it that is very fun.

Paul Scheer [00:33:16] I love it. All right. So you’ve been talking about some other stuff that you have been watching that still is strike proof. What do you got?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:23] I think I try to you know, I’m trying to think of it less what I’m watching more, what I’m reading and podcasts and stuff like that. Those are more like in the world of like strike proof stuff. I want to give a particular shout out, especially a I want to shout out. I spent. We were there for our tour and then I was there seeing family. I was in Portland, Maine for a while, and over the last couple of months I’ve been to Portland, Maine a bunch and have become obsessed with WYAR 88.3 Yarmouth, Maine Public Radio station.

Paul Scheer [00:33:58] I love this.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:59] Show like an old timey radio station that plays like old timey music, literally old time music. And I’m absolutely captivated by this radio station and it does not stream. And so I’m I’m calling on our fans to like, listen, it’s the it’s the giving part of the year. If you’ve got money to give and you want to give it to a small radio station in Maine to help them get us or if you can help them figure out how to stream their radios.

Paul Scheer [00:34:28] I thought you were going to be basically asking for people to make you tapes and send it to you like I used to take like the.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:34:33] Or that. Or that. I will tape. I would happily receive tapes of this. I just am more like I feel like somebody just needs to turn on a switch for these guys. It seems like a bunch of old guys running a radio station. It is so funny and I’m so obsessed with it. And then I went to stream it when I got back to L.A. and was heartbroken to find that it does not stream at all anyway. WYAR 88.3 in Yarmouth, Maine. You guys, you’re killing it.

Paul Scheer [00:34:58] First of all, I love all this. I want to talk about one thing that I feel like no one has talked about, and I feel crazy about it.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:05] Okay?

Paul Scheer [00:35:06] You know, I love Calvin and Hobbes when I was a kid. Sure. Great comic. You know, the Bill Waterston just released a book. Yes. It’s called The Mysteries. And I feel like I’ve talked to some diehard Calvin and Hobbes fans who have no idea. It’s not Calvin and Hobbes, obviously. It’s actually very cool. It’s like this very. This weird kingdom is like a fable, like about this kingdom that’s in despair. And the king sends out a knight to discover what what is wrong. That’s all. I kind of say it’s beautiful. And it’s. I mean, I’m just a fan of Bill Waterston. I just feel like, you know, I mean, I mean, my favorite, Calvin and Hobbes. I always tell you, this is Calvin pissing on the on the on the GMC logo or the Chevy.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:55] Yeah. Yeah. Because the Calvin is straight Ford F-150s all the way. I remember. I love it when Calvin pisses. Don’t you think there are kids who go through those books now and are like, Where is he? When does he piss?

Paul Scheer [00:36:15] It’s so terrible. I think Bill Watterson tried to sue people because Calvin never pissed, but yet this idea of Calvin pissing is like.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:25] Arguably the most iconic. Calvin is the pissing calvin. Like the one that has lasted the longest is the pissing Calvin for real.

Paul Scheer [00:36:34] Pissing Calvin is wild. I will say that there’s one thing, and it’s. And into my brain. It’s not funny, but I will just whatever. I was in New York City and there was a fire department. And, you know, obviously they had lost they had lost firefighters during 911. And they had this beautiful mural. And one of the pieces of the mural was Calvin in front of a gravestone praying. And and oh, no, this is like I’ve also seen the Calvin in front of a gravestone for multiple things, too. Like, I don’t know, like I think it was it took me out of the sentiment. It was like, wait, what the fuck is. Why is Calvin here? Why is Calvin at the gravestone too?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:16] Oh, that’s crazy.

Paul Scheer [00:37:17] Misappropriating. I’ve seen Calvin at gravestones now multiple times, too. I don’t. I don’t know.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:23] Bizarre. I was trying to find what it’s called, but there’s a great book. I think there’s two of them now that I think are called The Annotated Calvin and Hobbes.

Paul Scheer [00:37:33] Okay.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:34] Where it’s all sorts of extra material from the production of. And all sorts of. I think that’s what it’s called. I’m trying to look it up now, but I’m not finding. I’ll find it. It’s called something else.

Paul Scheer [00:37:46] That was back in the day when things were. I mean, look, I mean, when I was getting like my comics the right way, you know, it’s like, oh.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:55] When we were we were so old. It’s just old men now.

Paul Scheer [00:37:59] I’m talking about Calvin and Hobbes.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:02] I’m talking about when Calvin and Bart would team up and piss on a GMC logo.

Paul Scheer [00:38:09] Oh man. By the way. Oh, man, I got a I got a recommendation for you. It’s probably too new for you to have seen yet, but I’m a big Scott Pilgrim fan. I love the books. Brian Lee O’Malley takes off.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:23] Let’s go. Scott Pilgrim takes off. Let’s do it. I love.

Paul Scheer [00:38:27] So good. It’s so good.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:30] It’s so fun.

Paul Scheer [00:38:31] It’s a Netflix show. It’s animated. It’s fully done in an anime style. It’s anime, I should say not anime, It’s anime. They did it in Japan. They have like the whole team. My my buddy Ben David Verbinski and Brian Lee O’Malley just teamed up. They got the original voices of everybody from Scott Pilgrim versus the world and they put him in this thing. But it’s completely unique and different. You don’t need to see the movie. You don’t need to have read the books. But yet it’s not retreading. It’s like it’s yet again another.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:00] It’s such a smart play. You know, I loved I’m Loving. I haven’t finished it yet. I think I watched four of them so far. I don’t know how many there are, but I think I’ve watched four and it is absolutely fantastic because exactly what you’re saying, it takes the book and the movie, the books and the movie as a kind of starting point and just kind of goes in all sorts of different storytelling, just indulges in the curiosity of following these characters in other choices into other interpreting them in other ways. It’s I think it’s absolutely fantastic.

Paul Scheer [00:39:32] The one funny thing was I wanted to watch Scott Pilgrim the movie before I. I started watching the show just because I was like, let me just I want to just refresh myself. Get back in that world. And it’s so interesting watching them back to back because that was 14 years ago. The movie came out and everyone’s voice has matured and changed so much. Yeah. Michael Sierra does not sound like Michael Cera from 2010 and yeah, it’s still a great performance, but it’s sort of like, Oh wow, they’ve grown up like Ramona doesn’t sound like Ramona, even though it is Mary Elizabeth Winstead It’s like everyone is back. It’s oh sure, but they’ve all grown, they’ve all grown and they’ve changed. And that’s why.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:11] Have you ever read the books?

Paul Scheer [00:40:13] Oh, yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:16] Oh, wait a minute. I heard you just say that. I love the books. Love the books. Have you by any chance read Brian Lee O’Malley’s book Seconds? It’s a single book.

Paul Scheer [00:40:28] I love Seconds.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:29] Love. I like cannot recommend enough. The book Seconds by Brian Lee O’Malley.

Paul Scheer [00:40:34] I’ve talked to him about that because I’m like, I, I just love that. It’s just it’s a. I feel like it doesn’t get it’s due. I feel like Scott Pilgrim takes up too much oxygen? Seconds is great. Oh.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:46] Oh, it’s beautiful. I think that book is fantastic. And I’ll throw out a couple of other great comics recommendations if you’ve got a second. Yeah. Graphic novel wise, Roaming. Jillian Tamaki and Marina Tamaki, who did that one summer book that I’ve talked about here that I think is absolutely stunning. New book from them. Incredible, Beautiful, beautiful book. Beautiful story, Beautiful art. Our friend Ed Brubaker has another edition of Friday that’s come out, his young detective story story book that I think is incredible that he’s doing Marcus Martin. Beautiful.

Paul Scheer [00:41:23] Good. You’ve given me you’ve turned me on to so many different things lately, and I’ve really been using you as my comic book go to. So I’m I’m every time that you start talking about this, I’m writing down stuff that I know. Yeah, Great.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:34] So I’ll say I’m really enjoying. Chip Zdarsky book Newbern.

Paul Scheer [00:41:41] Yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:42] Isn’t that terrific I think that is a terrific book.

Paul Scheer [00:41:45] It’s really good. I mean, I love Chip. Like, Chip is like Chip was one of those people that I feel like I can’t remember when I found him. Maybe it was like, in his Howard the Duck Run or something like that, like. Or I don’t know. And I like. And now I go out of my way to make sure I like, like all my like, he’s one of those guys that I always go out of my way to find.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:01] Oh, yeah. Great, great stuff. Robert Kirkman and Chris Zomney’s book, Fire Power is coming to a close. Incredible story. I’ve really enjoyed this. And Zomney’s art is just in like one issue after another. Just masterpieces and phenomenal artist and and Robert is a fine writer.

Paul Scheer [00:42:21] Yeah he’s a fine yeah he’s okay.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:23] Yeah. Yeah. Hollywood Bobby Kirks. He’s fine. Monica, the new Dan Clowes book. Wow. Incredible. And then lastly, I’ll shout out, I’m reading because I know Tom King is a fan of the show. We’re a big fan of his. Read a ton of his stuff. I’m reading Gotham City year one, his year one about Gotham City, which is fantastic.

Paul Scheer [00:42:48] I got to check that out. And I will say this. Yeah, we should let it be known that we are mad at Tom King for coming to one of our shows and not telling us.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:56] Oh yeah, thank you. And I rescind this plug.

Paul Scheer [00:42:59] Yeah.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:00] How dare you dare you Tom King? How dare you come to our show and not come and say hello?

Paul Scheer [00:43:06] Come on now. Come on now.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:09] You know I would like to shout this book out simply for the art of Phil Hester. I don’t think it’s written very well at all.

Paul Scheer [00:43:16] Thank you. Thank you for saying it. You know. The other thing, too, is I talked about this briefly on the Discord. I do have some bad news in How Did This Get Made world. We’re talking about our live shows. We have lost an episode.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:30] Okay. I’m you we we talked very briefly, very briefly over text.

Paul Scheer [00:43:35] Yes.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:36] I am really mad. I’m genuinely angry because this show had what I thought was going to be a very real audience chant going forward, which is no retreat. And then the audience screams, no surrender. So spoiler alert, that’s the episode we’ve lost. And the next thing geostorm the next fuck the moon, the next, the next audience chant We lost it.

Paul Scheer [00:44:04] I mean, by the way, we still created the t shirt, which is a play on Frazier. Like, Oh, we did. Oh yeah, the t shirts are going to still be up. The t shirt was made. So for everyone who was there. So you can have a t shirt of a movie that we never do. But I do think like, here’s the thing, and I may have talked about this before, but I’m going to go and bang this drum one more time just because it makes me so angry. We all make mistakes. I never I never want to be too hard on anyone. I’ve made mistakes, whatever. I will say this. The person who messed up. Not only messed up, lied, said that he had done this before, said that he’d done it before, never did it before. And. And then.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:45] You mean that, meaning recording the show?

Paul Scheer [00:44:48] Recording the show. He said, Oh, yeah. I know how to do that. I did not know the reason why we lost it was because he didn’t do two. We always would have a black backup. He didn’t give us a backup. And that’s okay. That’s one thing. He lied. And then when confronted with it, not apologetic at all. Almost downright like. Well, big deal.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:10] Wow.

Paul Scheer [00:45:10] And that to me, that is the only reason. Like, normally I’d be like, you know what? Mistakes happen, but I’m like, fuck this guy. Fuck this guy for, you know, just say I’m sorry. Just say.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:21] I mean, just, like, own own your fuckups. No. Yeah. No. No, we.

Paul Scheer [00:45:26] As Jess says, our producer just says, throw them away. Throw the whole person away.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:32] Holy shit. What a bummer.

Paul Scheer [00:45:34] Yeah. Are you doing any Christmas shopping, by the way? I know this is a little change of pace. Anything that you’re thinking about.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:45:41] If there’s anything that I want to like specifically, shout out. That’s a good question. I wish I’d thought. I mean, yes, I am doing Christmas shopping and I am doing Christmas shopping inside of like board games and card games and some fun stuff. But I haven’t gotten my hands on anything yet.

Paul Scheer [00:46:00] Well, let me give you a card game that I think you might like. It’s called Dutch Blitz.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:05] Oh, I’ve been playing Dutch Blitz for years.

Paul Scheer [00:46:07] What? Oh, man. Okay.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:11] Such a fun game.

Paul Scheer [00:46:13] So fun. Okay, well, there you go. Dutch blitz. A great. A great stocking stuffer, if you will.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:18] Great. It’s like it’s another one like Monopoly deal. It’s its own deck of cards. You play with a unique deck of cards, but that’s all. You just need a deck of cards. And it’s a super fast. It’s kind of like spit or war or any of those kind of very fast paced games that are over quick.

Paul Scheer [00:46:34] And I will tell you, you play with my wife, Judy, and reveal and it will make you never want to play card games again because she is so aggressive. She’s so fast that it’s like she is it like she’s working on. I’ve never seen her move as quickly as when she plays these speed card games. It is. It is. I literally I have to, like leave the room sometimes, like I’m done. I can’t. I can’t do it. It’s too much. It’s it gets me. It gets me angry. It gets me angry.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:01] It gets you angry?

Paul Scheer [00:47:03] She’s so like. It’s it’s. She’s so happy to beat everybody. She does over and over again. She loves it.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:12] The thing I will say, you’re right. Because that the thing about Dutch Blitz is it’s very fast moving and there’s a lot of. Yeah. As people are getting closer, you can tell when people are getting close to finishing and there is an energy that starts to happen that is chaotic.

Paul Scheer [00:47:31] I hundred percent agree. And it’s when you’re so close and someone just beats you by a second, you’re like, Oh God damn it. Yeah, it’s really. It really it will get me. It gets me good.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:42] I’m glad. I love that game here. I’ll shout out a comic that has a that I’ve been meaning to talk about for a long time because of its movie, its recent movie adaptation, but have not been able to talk about it because of the strike, which is Andy Stevenson’s book Nimona, which was adapted into an incredible Netflix animated movie that is fantastic Nimona. The book is incredible, and the movie I thought was wonderful.

Paul Scheer [00:48:09] Wow.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:09] Chloe Grace Moretz, Riz Ahmed, I think, and it’s it’s a great it’s a great fantasy story. It’s a great young people story. It’s a great it’s a great it’s just a great story. It’s beautiful. It’s the book is one of my favorite books. And I think it’s just a it’s a also a fantastic movie.

Paul Scheer [00:48:29] You know, I will I will plug one thing that I’m in because I think it talks to something that. Well, I’ll just. I won’t sit up too much. I did a documentary called A Disturbance in the Force, which is a documentary about the Star Wars holiday special, which we did here on How Did This Get Made. Oh, yeah. And it gets into very exacting detail on literally. How did it get made? It’s made by Kyle Newman, who is you know, he’s been around so much different great stuff. Fanboys and other things. But it’s a really fun doc with all your favorites in it, you know, Weird Al and Pat and myself, a handful of people. But it’s not just like, look at this thing. It sucks. It really is. And this is like.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:16] A deep dive into it. Oh, that’s cool.

Paul Scheer [00:49:18] And I had I got to read some of the pages that George Lucas wrote for inspiration for his the person who actually wrote the script. And it’s a bonkers. It’s so.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:29] That’s great.

Paul Scheer [00:49:30] So yeah, you can you can kind of check it out. It’s it’s on streaming now. Video on demand.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:35] Oh I love.

Paul Scheer [00:49:35] Yeah that’s a real fun one.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:36] That’s rad. That’s cool. I will shout out a couple of things that I feel like I just think are fantastic and wish like some people that just to, like, bring attention to them. Right? I don’t know. How were you much of a fan of the adult Swim show Metalocolypse?

Paul Scheer [00:49:55] Oh yes. I saw them live.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:58] Incredible. Same I saw them live too love, love. Metalocolypse, love the show. Did you know that he put out a movie a couple of months ago that is so fantastic called Metalocolypse: Army of the Doom Star?

Paul Scheer [00:50:11] No, that.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:12] Exactly.

Paul Scheer [00:50:13] Okay.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:50:14] And it’s so good and such a blast. New music, new story. It’s fucking so good and funny and just absurd. Yeah, but this is Brendan Smalls. You know, this is a whole is a feature movie, great animated movie about, you know, a metal death metal band that controls the universe. It’s kind of.

Paul Scheer [00:50:41] I love it. You can get it on Apple TV, you can get it all and all the different spots I love. Tommy Bacha. You’re one of the first people I ever was like a head writer on the show that I was working on and taught me how to hide in my office when when angry people were around. I will always remember how to hide, how to hide so they couldn’t yell at you.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:02] Incredible. I will also shout out. The most recent season of starstruck came out on HBO or on Max, rather. Oh yeah. Rose. Rose Matafeo is incredible. British romcom series. Did you watch Extraordinary?

Paul Scheer [00:51:17] No.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:17] The British The British show in which everybody at puberty gets superpowers and it’s all about, Oh, it’s great. It’s a sitcom about like a society or a world in which you get everybody gets some sort of a power, you know? And it’s about, of course, somebody who didn’t get their power.

Paul Scheer [00:51:35] Oh, I love that.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:51:36] Oh, great show. We talked. I shouted out this show before and season two just came out and I can’t talk enough about it. Our beloved Letterkenny, the spin off show. Shoresy. The season two out on Hulu Now Shoresy season two, one of the funniest seasons of television this year. Incredible.

Paul Scheer [00:51:54] So much TV. I got to get on on this TV. By the way, if you know, this is a movie that I think a lot of people know about, but I do want to just talk about because we didn’t get a chance to plug it. But Bottoms is great if you’re not seeing Bottoms.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:06] Incredible.

Paul Scheer [00:52:06] It’s such a funny fucking movie. It’s so unique. It’s so different. I mean, speaking of Scott Pilgrim, it has like that kind of it’s a it’s a very fun, inventive, cool looking great movie. I won’t tell you any more about it than just enjoy it and it’s just put it on. You will love it. It’s just it’s great.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:52:26] Yeah. From our friends Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald over at the Watch, I became obsessed with the British show The Gold, which is a British crime show about a real I did not know this case, but a real case in which in 1980 I can remember 80, mid 80s London. I think there’s a bank robbery and the bank robbers accidentally rob a bank not knowing they’re just going to rob the vault of some millions of dollars, but instead find that there is $26 million worth in gold there that they didn’t know about. So they steal this gold. But then what? So and that happens in the first 15 minutes of the show. The rest of the show is all about that gold and how it makes its way in like from their possession into by through laundering and cleaning and all of the machinations of the fences and all of the gangsters and the lawyers and all the people who touch this gold in order to get it into circulation before the police can find them.

Paul Scheer [00:53:33] Oh, wow.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:34] So it’s all of these components. The police who are chasing them. Hugh Bonneville from Downton Abbey. And, you know, it’s got great people in it. And then the gangsters who are it’s a it’s fucking awesome. It’s a great show.

Paul Scheer [00:53:48] The gold. Oh, the gold. Alright, I’m on this. This is like. This is really this has been a good. This has been a good.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:53:55] Oh, you know the other one. You’ll like. The other one you’ll like because you’re on the road and it’s short form. Yeah. Have you watched and did you know that he’s doing Coogan is doing you YouTube like an episode. I don’t know Maybe it’s not. I’m watching on YouTube. Alan Partridge’s mid-morning matters. They’re like five minute Alan Partridge episodes that are so fucking funny.

Paul Scheer [00:54:17] Oh, I was going to plug his new book, which is about him taking over the lighthouse, which is based on what he does on the podcast. So basically, like the premise of the book is it’s so funny. His career is over, is being canceled, and he goes and buys this lighthouse out of spite. He’s trying to, like build up the lighthouse and also get back his career. It’s I mean, like the character continues. It’s so funny. It’s I and I love it. Like if his books make me laugh, Nomad is so funny.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:54:49] I mean, I didn’t. I didn’t know he had a new book.

Paul Scheer [00:54:51] Oh, the new book is great. And I mean, if you’ve not listened to the two seasons of the podcast from the Oast House, that like, that’s what it is like. So I’ve been listening to the oast house and this is like this talks about it’s like the right details because it’s like, Oh, I’ve been listening to do it now. This is a book about him buying the lighthouse. It’s so it’s so good. It’s so good.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:14] That’s incredible. That’s incredible.

Paul Scheer [00:55:16] Yes. And and obviously, you got to listen to it on tape because it’s so good. It’s called a big beacon. Big beacon, is it?

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:22] Oh, okay. All right. Great. I’ll check it out.

Paul Scheer [00:55:24] Yeah. It’s so good. Oh, my God. I love it so much. All right, Jason, this is great. I love getting over these big corporations and what they give us and how thankful we are that they are here for us.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:55:35] They’re great. Can I just shout out a few podcasts I’ve been on recently that I’d just love to throw some people towards? I was recently on Scam Goddess had a great conversation. I did an episode of the Doughboys recently during October. They were in costume, as the Joker and Batman. Yes. Well, that’s what I’m going to tell you. The whole episode is apparently available on YouTube and it it was fuckin bananas. So go to YouTube wherever the doughboys are and watch the episode. It’s so fuckin funny. Watch it for Alone for Mitch in a Batman mask trying to eat an orange. It’s really next level stuff. And then also, I was on Seth Morris, our friend Seth Morris, and Erin Whitehead’s recent new show, College Town, which is just fantastic.

Paul Scheer [00:56:29] Well, you know, I, I did this podcast, which I think you might like. It’s called Die Hard on a Blank. And basically the idea is it’s a movie discussion that basically is how did die hard effect this movie? So like everything is like Die Hard so I did the I did Clear and Present Danger the Tom Clancy movie that Jack the last Harrison Ford Jack Ryan movie And it’s really fun It’s like it’s a super fun premise. And if you like these movies that we like, it’s like it just kind of looks at it through the eyes of through the eyes of like how Die Hard. You know, how it, how it kind of brought it in. But it’s also unique on its own way, too. It’s not just about die hard.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:11] Oh, nice. Oh, that’s cool.

Paul Scheer [00:57:13] All right, so we are there and we’ll see you next time on Last Looks.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:57:19] Good bye.

Paul Scheer [00:57:20] Oh, so fun to talk to Jason. Sorry, my audio quality fluctuated so much from there to here, but I recorded that when I was in Oklahoma City and I got stories to tell. Anyway, we got to wait until July until I tell you that story. Anyway, people, that was awesome. And if you submitted a brand new theme song for the show, if we haven’t played it, don’t worry. Jason. I still plan to listen to those songs too. We’re just keeping it. It’s alive. It’s a fluid moment right now. Anyway, now that we’ve talked about munchies and the dogs saved Christmas, let’s talk about next week’s movie. We are going from a Christmas robbery scheme to a Christmas influencer queen. That’s right. Next week we are watching the 2019 made for TV movie of Beauty and the Beast Christmas. You have to watch this film. It is great. Short breakdown of the plot. Social media star Ginger Holiday damages her face and a freak hair dyeing accident and must restore her social media clout by pretending to get engaged to a bad boy influencer Beau Bradley. Yes, you heard everything I just said correctly. This movie has zero reviews and Rotten Tomatoes. So instead we will turn to Sad Dad on letter box. I love letter box. Who says “The best part of the whole thing was the commercial breaks.” Take a listen to the trailer.

Trailer Audio [00:58:40] Hi, I’m Ginger Holliday.

Trailer Audio [00:58:42] She’s the Internet’s trendiest Christmas princess.

Trailer Audio [00:58:45] We are making homemade hair dye with peppermint and holly berries.

Trailer Audio [00:58:50] But when an irritating accident occurs. Her condition will take maybe eight weeks to heal. This bummed out beauty signs off line and her popularity plummets.

Trailer Audio [00:59:01] Will people still love me when they know how I look.

Trailer Audio [00:59:03] Whoa. Your face. What happened?

Trailer Audio [00:59:06] It’s just an allergic reaction to some hair dye. It’s not that bad.

Paul Scheer [00:59:10] You can stream a beauty and the Beast Christmas for free on hoopla or rent it on Apple TV, Amazon, YouTube, and Google Play. In addition to hoopla, I encourage you to check out kanopy. It’s another digital media service offered by your local public library that allows you to consume movies, TV, music, audiobooks, e-books, and comics for free. People. I recommend this movie. And just so you know, it is not the Disney classic Beauty and the Beast Christmas. This is a live action movie anyway. That is it for the show. Please remember to rate and review as it helps. And if you listen on Apple Podcasts, make sure you are following us. Now you can visit us on social media. Make sure that if you are in the UK, you are listening or watching or refreshing. On Monday, December 11th for our big announcement and a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonne, Molly Reynolds, our movie picking producer, Avril Halley and our engineers, Casey Holford and Rich Garcia, as well as Jess Cisneros, who makes those amazing social media videos. We will see you next week for A Beauty and the Beast Christmas.