EP. 314.5 — Last Looks: Ski School

Paul Scheer [00:00:00] Find out what Dave Marshak from Ski School is up to now. And if Grand Crew exists in the same universe as Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Plus, we’ll find out why there was no dolly shots before noon rule on Ski School. All this and more on today’s Last Looks. Hit the theme. 

Intro Song [00:00:16] [Intro Music] 

Paul Scheer [00:00:29] Hello, my Section 8 ski students. I’m your ski instructor and party enthusiast, Paul Scheer, and welcome to How Did This Get Made Last Looks as I will take you on a journey up to the tip of Mount Party and you will get to voice your issues on Ski School. Plus, Jason and I will chat with our pals, Carl Tart. Put your t’s in chat for Carl and Phil Augusta Jackson about the new season of their hilarious NBC sitcom Grand Crew. If you’re not watching, people, you’re missing out. But we have a great conversation also about music in that little Just Chat segment. So stay tuned for that. Plus, we are going to reveal next week’s movie as well. But first things first, a big shout out to Sean Fogle. Sean, killin’ it with that theme. I loved it. And we want more, more themes from Sean, maybe even from you. If you have a theme, send it to us at HowDidThisGetMade@Earwolf.com. That’s HowDidThisGetMade@Earwolf.com. Keep them short. 15-20 seconds. That’s best. All right, let’s get into it. Last week we talked at length about Ski School and now you get a chance to get on your soapbox. I don’t know. Anyway, it’s time for corrections and omissions. 

Intro Song [00:01:38] [Corrections and Omissions Song]

Paul Scheer [00:01:54] Thank you, Dorn Heim, for that great theme. Let’s go right to the Discord. Screaming Joe Blade. Okay, this is a great one. Screaming Joe Blade writes, “This episode gave me flashbacks to my first couple of jobs in the Toronto film industry when I worked with both the director and DP of this film. I remember the DP talking about Ski School. Apparently the grip department enjoyed the party scene in Whistler a lot and they were often in such bad shape in the morning that they had a strict no dolly shots before noon. Two other great memories of working on these films were having to push a character’s picture vehicle into the shot as he pretended to drive up because the car didn’t run, great. And having to pay most of my deals in cash because the production company had a bad reputation for running out of money and checks bouncing. It’s a great introduction to filmmaking.” You know what? Screaming Joe Blade. I did not expect us to have this kind of an inside scoop, and I love every single detail. No dolly shots before noon. Amazing. Johnny Unusual writes, “Our heroes, being in Section eight is actually a gag. The term Section eight is a US military discharge term for those deemed mentally unfit for service and a much less savory aspect of history, Cross-dressers and LGBTQ people used to be placed in this Category too. In the TV show MASH, Corporal Klinger started cross-dressing in an attempt to be given a Section eight discharge.” You see, I knew that sounded familiar. Thank you for bringing that to my attention Johnny Unusual. Corgi Herder actually has a little bit of an addendum to that, though, because there’s actually a real Section eight Snow Sport Institute in Canada where you can become a ski instructor. Their website doesn’t mention visible breasts, but they do advertise a laid back island lifestyle with ridiculous amounts of powder. The founder, by the way, Toby Labaki, learned to ski at Whistler, where a lot of Ski School was filmed. So, Corgi, are you saying that maybe this is a true story? This is a biopic? I mean, Scott, our producer, chimes in and says their website also mentions their founder did in fact name the business Section eight Snow Sport as a nod to Ski School, which was his favorite movie as a teenager. So party on Tobin. I love that Ski School has really taken over in this big way that I was not aware of. There’s a whole episode of Always Sunny in Philadelphia that is basically a Ski School sequel or a redo. I have to watch that one as well. Doctor Guts 1003 writes, “The announcer frequently refers to the competition and the first few days as being a qualifying event. Yet the results don’t seem to matter at all, as all the sections are still competing at the end of the movie. If you’re making the effort to have the announcer mention qualifying rounds, why not have that be the obstacle that prevents Section eight from participating in the end? They could fail to qualify due to excessive partying or more Section one grappling hook shenanigans. Using Dean Wormer wannabe kicks Section eight out seem like a lazy, half hearted attempt at creating conflict.” Wow. Well, Dr. Guts 1003, you think that this movie was lazy? And you think that they didn’t think it all through? But by the way, what you’re presenting here is basically an obstacle that could not be overcome. Like if they are disqualified, they could not get into it. Like this idea of like wanting to kick them out, at least keep them in the mix. Like you’re just creating something that would take away the final ending. I’m not saying that I like the Dean warmer ending, but at least it gives us a reason for the ending. You just want to cut it. You want the richies to win, Dr. Guts? Is that what I’m getting? Anyway, let’s go to the phones. Stephanie from New Jersey, what do you got? 

Listener [00:05:46] Hi Paul, this is Stephanie from New Jersey just calling about Ski School. And a little upset by the fact that you guys that Ski School doesn’t exist because in the nineties as a kid, my mom would or my parents would send me away over Christmas break for like ten days to a Ski School. And it was pretty wild. I was a younger kid, so it wasn’t, you know, Chainsaw wild, but then on top of that, I went on and became a ski instructor. And we definitely also have schools for ski instructors. And those were a little bit more wild, more Chainsaw level and then were girls and they could ski. And they did talk. They weren’t just in bikinis. So there you have it. All sorts of Ski School for ski people. Okay, that’s it. Bye. 

Paul Scheer [00:06:33] Whoa. Breaking news. Stephanie laying it down. Ski School does exist and ski instructor school exists as well. And there is a lot of partying. Again, another check in the column that this is a biopic. This is gritty. This is real. This should have been nominated for awards. See, people just took it for granted. They believed that the story was so fantastical that it couldn’t have been real. The same way that Avatar has been received. People don’t believe that that is actually happening. I have the proof. Follow me on my Infowars spin off show where I talk about the truth about Pandora and the tylcoon, which is a giant whale. Anyway, I’ll get into it on that show. Kit from Los Angeles, What do you got? 

Listener [00:07:24] So there’s a scene where after they’ve, or they’re like hooking up the camera to all the TVs in the club, they’re going to film the guys supposedly having sex. And one of the guys is like, Hey I’m having trouble with this. Do you have the username and he sets the menu on fire and hands it to him and for whatever reason and the guys like just constantly like just reading it in earnest, trying to figure it out before it burns up. I just thought that scene was absolutely insane in a film full of insanity. 

Paul Scheer [00:08:01] Kit, I appreciate you just taking a moment to just get in on the small level. Just be like, this is insane. And you know what? You’re right. In a movie of insane things. That is like when you think about it fully, one of the most insane things is not not the, obviously, I think the grappling hook is very much up there. But yes, I appreciate you just taking a moment to step back and appreciate the finer absurdity of this movie. And finally, Krissy from Dallas, what do you got? 

Listener [00:08:30] Oh, hi, Paul. This is Krissy in Dallas. I am calling because I was on IMDB and I saw that the beautiful Victoria from this week’s movie Ski School also played Jen’s mom in Dancing: It’s On. That was her last credited role. I just thought that was very funny and to see her as a dancer. So thanks so much. Enjoy your Oscars night, bye. 

Paul Scheer [00:09:02] Whoa. Way to go, Krissy, getting on that IMDB and I mean that sincerely. None of us picked that up. Now I got to look at a side by side. Man, oh man. Way to go, Krissy. You know what I think, I think you’re in the mix now, Krissy I think you’re in the mix for winner of the week because you did the research. Okay, let’s go back to the discord. Catfish writes, “I did not realize until I listened to the episode, but this movie ends with a giant plot twist. At the very beginning of the movie, Marshak says you’re too late to read. I’ve already put in a motion, an elaborate plan, a series of events diabolically designed to get rid of this mountain and you and your satanic presence forever. And in fact, he had. He’d already somehow brokered the deal for the model/millionaire to purchase a mountain and rebrand it as Party Mountain. Since he already has an in with the future owner, he knows that nothing’s said nor done by Reed or the current owner matters at all. While watching the movie unfold, you think Marshak’s aloof, devil may care attitude is just his anti-authority personality when in fact he is just basking in his victory for the entire running time way ahead of everyone else.” Catfish, I’m right there with you. I knew it. I saw it. This movie is like another award winning film, The Usual Suspects, where everything changes at the end. And again, why wasn’t it nominated? As Jason said, could this be nominated this year retroactively? I think we should be giving out Oscars to films that the Academy missed. And that would have been a perfect opportunity this year to start it with Ski School. Sean and Reza, chiming in together, writes, “We were really surprised that no one brought up the third episode of season 11 of Always Sunny in Philadelphia titled The Gang Hits the Slopes. It serves as a parody to Ski School and is a hilarious companion to this movie. For anyone wanting to know what happens to Dave Marshak when he hits middle age. In this episode, Dean Cameron plays the same character who is an older party animal skier leading a ragtag team against a corrupt businessman and his preppy douche pro skier henchmen who are trying to buy the mountain. Which mountain is he trying to buy? A little ski mountain called Party Mountain.” I love it. You know, I want to play a clip of this because one of the things we were talking about is the announcer in Ski School and how the announcer really was laying down a lot of plot. And here’s a little clip from Always Sunny where Charlie Day even jokes about this announcer and how he knows so much about everything on the mountain. Take a listen. 

Always Sunny [00:11:33] Last year, the squeeze in some terms before tomorrow’s big race. On a side note, it’s good to see Frank Reynolds back on the Hill. We’ll see if he can patch things up with old rival Dave Briscoe. But I wouldn’t count on it. 

Always Sunny [00:11:45] Hey, Dennis did you just hear that? 

Always Sunny [00:11:46] What? 

Always Sunny [00:11:47] That. That PA announcement. What? What was that? 

Always Sunny [00:11:50] Well, there’s a lot of people on this mountain, Charlie. Everybody’s got to stay informed. 

Always Sunny [00:11:53] Yeah, but that guy was like saying a bunch of, like, really personal information about us. Like, how does he know that? 

Always Sunny [00:11:56] That’s how it works. 

Always Sunny [00:11:57] But why is he talking about us? There’s like hundreds of people out here. 

Always Sunny [00:12:00] Well, we’re the most important thing that’s happening right now. 

Paul Scheer [00:12:02] I love it. So funny. Now I need to know what happened to Dave Marshak. I’m gonna watch that right now. So many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one that is the best. And this week it has to go to. And I think you all know where I’m going. It’s got to go to Screamin Joe Blade, who gave us the best piece of information that we’ve ever gotten about a film, which is no dolly shots before noon. Now, I wish I could give you something Screaming Joe Blade, but I can’t. I can only give you this amazing song that was written for you by Honest Jams. Hit it. 

Winner’s Song [00:12:48] [Winner’s Song]. 

Paul Scheer [00:12:48] Okay. If you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up the Discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM Or Call Me at 619-PAULASK. That’s 619-PAULASK. Our Discord is also currently taking ideas for squares on a How Did This Get Made bingo card that you can play while listening to each episode. So if you have any ideas for common scenarios, phrases or tropes from the show, submit your ideas at tinyURL.com/HDTGMbingo. That’s tinyURL.com/HDTGMbingo. Coming up next, Jason and I are joined by Carl Tart and Phil Augusta Jackson to talk about season two of NBC’s Grand Crew and a lot more stuff. Stick around. 

Paul Scheer [00:13:35] Welcome back. You’ve likely noticed that on the How Did This Get Made feed, every Monday we have been playing old episodes of How Did This Get Made out of the vault and rereleasing them back into the rotation. This week’s Matinee Monday was Abraxas: Guardian of the Universe, which was directed by Damian Lee, who also directed Ski School. And next week’s Matinee Monday will be Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, which shares a director with next week’s film, which I will reveal at the end of this episode. Ooh, exciting, isn’t it? All right. Before we get to all of that, I am excited to sit down today and chat with Phil Augusta Jackson and Carl Tart. Jason and I, we improvise with these guys. They’re incredibly talented. Phil Augusta Jackson is an improviser, musician. He is a writer. He wrote on Brooklyn Nine-Nine. He wrote on Key Peele, and he has created Grand Crew. Carl Tart, one of the funniest guys out there. I love performing with him. He’s popped up in shows like Brooklyn Nine-Nine. He is a lead, obviously on Grand Crew and he is a regular on Comedy Bang Bang, and he comes on to my Twitch show with Rob Huebel a lot. Just a great guy. And these are two great guys talking about their show and what they’re up to. But before we get into that, take a little listen to Grand Crew. 

Grand Crew [00:14:56] Hey, you see that back there? 

Grand Crew [00:14:58] The girl at the jukebox? Yeah, she’s cute. 

Grand Crew [00:15:00] All right, so I’m coming back from the bathroom, I hear her going on and on and on about boxing, I figure you go over there and talk to her about boxing, you probably have a shot. 

Grand Crew [00:15:08] That’s what I’m talking bout. Nicky. Thanks for looking out. Now prepare to watch a master at work. 

Grand Crew [00:15:16] Get it. Get it. I made all of that up. This is a prank. She wasn’t talking about boxing. 

Grand Crew [00:15:21] Amazing. 

Grand Crew [00:15:22] Oh, this is going to be a disaster, and I love it. Oh, start. 

Grand Crew [00:15:26] Oh, there he goes. Even better than I thought it would be. He’s actually pretending to box. He told her that he’s a boxer? 

Grand Crew [00:15:32] Wow. Wow. Oh, wow. 

Grand Crew [00:15:34] Good little combo. 

Grand Crew [00:15:35] Oh, he took. He took a shot. 

Grand Crew [00:15:38] He’s doing the matrix. Yeah, it was like. It’s like if she didn’t want you, she’s telling you. She’s totally. She’s saying I don’t like violence. Oh. Oh, we got him. Good. 

Grand Crew [00:15:49] That could not have gone better. We’re headed back to her place. Thank you, Nicky. 

Paul Scheer [00:15:54] Please welcome Phil Augusta Jackson and Carl Tart. Guys, welcome to the show. 

Carl Tart [00:15:59] Thank you. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:15:59] Thank you. 

Carl Tart [00:15:59] Thank you. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:15:59] Thank you for having us. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:00] You guys are getting. You guys are getting hoarse voice, subdued. You guys are in like, the after dark of this show, Like you’re doing this like, like you like sexy Forsythia, Lennon Parham character. 

Carl Tart [00:16:16] Let me get a cigarette out for that. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:16:18] Oh smokey, I like it. 

Carl Tart [00:16:19] These are the same cigarettes from Robin Paul. 2020. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:16:25] Carl, I did not expect you to just actually pull out a cigarette. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:16:28] Really. Carl really put his cigarette in his mouth. I love it. 

Carl Tart [00:16:31] And these cigarettes. Like I said, are two years old. These are like middle of the pandemic. A bit that I did on Rob and Paul. 

Paul Scheer [00:16:38] Yes. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:16:39] That’s funny. 

Carl Tart [00:16:40] I went to the store and bought a pack of cigarettes and they’re still full because I don’t smoke. 

Paul Scheer [00:16:45] My wife June is on How Did This Get Made with us. When we go to a party she can get a cigarettete going very quickly. I don’t know. Never buys a pack, but every party I’ll see her in the corner smoking with somebody, some stranger getting a little cigarette action on. Like I feel like it’s, I know that she’s having a good time if a cigarettete is out and happening like it just feels like that is really like and it’s becoming less and less of a thing where you can find a lot of people. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:14] I coundn’t tell you the last time I smoked a cigarettete and I mean, genuinely 30 years ago. 

Paul Scheer [00:17:18] It’s a rough flavor. It’s like it’s too intense for me when I like, one time I’m on this show Black Monday we were doing we had to smoke all the time and in the pilot we were like, all right, just light another cigarettete light, another cigarette. And that was those like fake cigarettes and it just and I would breathe into my pillow and it would get this this like I, what I was breathing back at myself was so disgusting. I was like, oh this must be a million times worse if you are an actual smoker. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:17:48] The amount of fake drugs that I’ve had to take at some point is going to give me a worse cancer than if I had actually smoked cigarettes or, you know, like the fake stuff they give you to snort the all the fake stuff is terrible. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:18:05] That’s what I was going to ask. Have you done fake cocaine? 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:08] Yeah. 

Paul Scheer [00:18:09] Oh, yeah. 

Carl Tart [00:18:10] What is it? 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:18:10] Yeah, what is it? Cause it looks like–. 

Paul Scheer [00:18:12] Nuts. Nuts. And then there’s, like, a lactose one. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:16] I think that’s the one that I had at at something that. That recently I had to, like, bury my nose in and take off. And it was like I was getting so much. On Brooklyn, we did it. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:18:29] Cause I couldn’t remember. That’s what made me think of it, because I couldn’t remember if we actually showed Pimento doing the cocaine or if we dipped you out of frame. But like. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:18:38] I go down, but I do still get it. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:18:41] That’s crazy. 

Paul Scheer [00:18:42] Oh, man. Well, this is interesting because Grand Crew obviously takes place in this wine bar and you all are drinking wine all the time. And I think that that’s what people don’t know, too. Like, what is that like? Because that, when we used to drink beer in The League, it would be very like, just get disgusting after a while. What is the flavor palate that you’re getting on the wine that is in in Grand Crew? 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:19:06] So some people drink flavor water. Nicole drinks flavor of water. Justin drinks a flavored water. Aaron drinks fake wine, which is disgusting. They have poured me some. It’s very bad. It just tastes like vinegar juice. I don’t know how he does it, but, you know, he’s real one of those real actor types. And. And I drink diet cran grape ocean spray. 

Paul Scheer [00:19:30] Okay. That’s what they used to give us for wine on The League, too, which is too sweet. I mean. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:19:34] With multiple takes. 

Paul Scheer [00:19:35] Multiple takes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Carl Tart [00:19:37] Well, that’s why I do diet. I personally would love the real deal. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:40] Just drinking wine? Yeah. 

Carl Tart [00:19:42] Yeah. Well, no, not. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:19:44] Real, real cranberry cocktail. 

Carl Tart [00:19:46] I would gain 25lbs throughout the course of the season if I drink real cranberry juice. 

Paul Scheer [00:19:51] Oh, man. Because we used to have that thing too. Whenever you do a show, I think set in the bar like you also have, like it’s, it’s a high class, it’s a wine bar. So there’s, there’s more things around. Like even on The League, we just have a tray of like mixed nuts. And you’re eating that all day too. And like, all of a sudden you’re like, Oh, I’ve eaten like ten bowls of this or I’ve like, dipped into the food too much and then you just ghome feeling disgusting at the end of the day.  

Carl Tart [00:20:19] They put charcuterie for us, and I will find something that I want to eat and I’ll talk to the prop lady and be like, Hey, how many grapes do you have? I also am. And this is a secret, but it’s not a secret. I’m sure other actors do the same thing. But I heard when I watched Ocean’s 11, I think when I was like 12 years old, when it first came out that Brad Pitt is always eating in his scenes.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:20:41] It’s the shrimp cocktail in Oceans.

Carl Tart [00:20:43] Yeah. And and so I’m now like, if I have the option to be eating something, I also think it’s always funny. So, like, it’s a, it’s a choice that I’m glad I get to make on the show. But like, if wherever, like at a party, I want a big bowl of chips. I want and I’m not really I’m maybe eat five because the continuity but like, I want to be having that. To me that’s, whenever anybody is eating something when like Maxine Shaw on Living Single would always be eating when she came into the room. Cole on Martin would always be eating when he came to the room. I think Joey would be eating a lot on Friends when like so like that. Food is always funny to me, like just people working with food. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:22] Oh yeah, I yeah. Go ahead.

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:21:24] I was just going to say as, as the person who sits in the edit bay and edits the show, I was wondering how intentional it is, because I definitely noticed and I love it. It’s like there’s cereal, there’s chips. These like always. He’s always working with something. It is and it is. It is always funny and it’s always great. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:21:41] There’s something great about having a prop. I agree. On The League, it was just a one off joke in one of the episodes that it would be funny if my character just pulled food out of his pocket and I was like, Oh, it’d be funny if it was a hot dog. Can you guys make a hot dog? And I’ll just pull a fully cooked hot dog in a bun, like ready to go out of my pocket. And that became a joke that then recurred so often that there would be days where I would have to eat like ten hot dogs. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:22:10] Oh shit. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:11] Because we would do these long improv takes. And because they were these long improv takes, I’d eat two thirds of a hot dog in the 3 minutes. It took us to improv the scene. 

Paul Scheer [00:22:22] And you can’t spit it out because you have to swallow it in the scene. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:22:24] Yeah. And so I would eat and it was disgusting. You know, to your point, Carl, about if you drank the full, you know, cranberry juice or whatever, it was like I would have so much sodium, so much salt from the hot dogs in my system those days. It would be disgusting. 

Carl Tart [00:22:40] That’s really funny. 

Paul Scheer [00:22:42] I got to talk about this show a little bit because, you know, Phil, I knew you as a performer. And when we first started performing together, you were working on Brooklyn Nine-Nine as a writer and you got this show and this show and talking to Carl about this show, what I love about it is it really comes from this place of like, it is your life. These are a majority of people in this cast are your friends. And so just talk me through like how you got this idea for this show and what you wanted to do. Because I feel like for people who have not seen Grand Crew kind of set the table for us. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:23:16] So I was working on Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I wrote on Brooklyn Nine-Nine seasons three, four, five and six. Right in the middle of that time, the creator of that show, Dan Gore, was like, Hey, we have a good working dynamic. If you ever want to develop something, let me know. And you know, I’m all about working with folks. I’m all about collaboration. I just love it so much. Yeah, I mean, I think that’s the improviser in all of us. Everybody in this room right now is like, Oh shit, you fuck with what you fuck with what I’m fucking with. Like, let’s try and make some shit happen. And we started meeting weekly while the room was up and we were just tossing around some random ideas like, you know, what if a dentist can’t be a dentist anymore and he’s got to figure out his life or a group of people get stuck in like, crazy, high premise stuff. Like what, what, what has a hook to it. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:03] What else I want to know about the dentist. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:24:06] Maybe I still do this dentist thing. You know, it’s got legs. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:09] Carl’s, like, wait, that’s the role I want. I want the dentist who’s not a dentist anymore. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:24:14] Yeah, Yeah. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:15] Make that a storyline for Carl’s character on the show. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:24:18] We could do it. I mean, Carl’s character is the one that hops around career wise. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:22] It would be funny if it’s revealed that Carl’s character you know this. I feel like this season, Carl’s character is an Uber driver. If it’s revealed that he has, he can be a practicing dentist. He just isn’t. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:24:32] Yes. That’s amazing. I mean, the beauty of it is his character is a genius. So he can be good at anything immediately, much like the real Carl Tart. So it’s like, that’s the thing on the table, Carl keeps pitching to me that Sharon becomes a weatherman. I’m like, It’s funny. It’s funny. 

Paul Scheer [00:24:48] But you got to wait until like season six to spin that off. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:24:52] Every four or five episodes. Carl just has a different full blown career. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:24:58] But, you know, and so but before we start these meetings, Dan would be like, Oh, so what’s going on in your life? Like, you know, he’s got like, a family so his life’s just very, like, different than mine is. And I just be like, oh, I hang out with the homies at this bar called Covell. And, you know, we just talk about our lives. Their dating lives, career and blah, blah, blah. And then after like a couple of weeks and it was Dan, I was like, I think that might be the show. And I was like, Yeah, I think, you know, they, they say that cliches like, write what you know, and that that’s how it happened. So it was like us trying to come up with like very clever ideas, but starting our days talking about just the things that were going on in my life. And then this wine bar became a very, very obvious kind of tapestry to create the show. And then the rest is just a bunch of, you know, putting the pitch deck together. 

Paul Scheer [00:25:41] But now, Carl, you come in, you know, Phil, you know, Nicole, you have to audition for this. And we all have to audition for stuff, especially as an NBC show. Yeah, like, where are you at when you come into it? 

Carl Tart [00:25:55] So we were hanging out and we would be at Covell through every step of when they said, we’re about to pitch the show, we got to we got a full deck, we got this, we got that. We’re about to go in tomorrow. We sold the show in the room. We did it. And at that moment, I’m just a supportive friend. Like, now I know what the show is about. I know that. I know I’m probably going to audition for it. Like, this is the realist, honest to God truth. But I like at that moment I’m just being supportive for and just happy for my homeboy that he has sold the show. He’s about to be a showrunner, like to a major network. That’s dope. I’m in the Keenan room at the time and that’s when the audition process starts. So I auditioned the first time, and the first time I was prepared for Phil to be in the room. But our other friend Tim Chang was also in the room and I kind of was like, Get your ass out of here. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:26:46] Because Tim was my assistant at the time for the whole. Yeah. Yeah. 

Carl Tart [00:26:50] I didn’t know he was going to be here too. Get out of here. And I think he did leave and then had to go back like the next day. But again, that was just another job for me. Didn’t go in there. Of course, I’m not going to go in and act like I don’t know who Phil is. Well, like I’m here to do a job, so I’m gonna try to be good at the job and audition for two characters that day. And and so I was, you know, wanted to be and, you know, did I? This is any casting directors listening to this? I’m sorry. But this job I probably prepare for a little bit more, you know? Yeah, like then I normally. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:27:27] Is that because you wanted to do right by Phil or because you really wanted it? You know, and or both? 

Carl Tart [00:27:33] I didn’t know. Both. It was actually is both of them. Yeah. One, I didn’t know what Phil had said to them about me, so I didn’t want to go in there, mess up. And to be honest, I had another situation that was like this where I went in to audition for the My Player Character on NBA 2K 19 or 20, and I was like, man this is a video game. I’m going to go. I’m just been. And the script was like, weird. And I was like, nah, I’m going to go in here, read. I was going to be fine. And I walked into the room and our good buddy Aaron Covington, who also wrote Creed is who wrote the copy and and I, I bombed it. I bombed. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:28:10] When you bomb it. When you bomb an audition, it sucks. But when you bomb an audition in front of a friend who has, like, vouched for you or brought you in, then you feel just absolutely horrible. 

Carl Tart [00:28:23] I felt horrible to where I apologized to him. I was like, Hey, man, I don’t know if you talked me up to the people or anything like that, but I’m sorry. I mean, I didn’t know you was going to be in there. And to be honest, when I saw NBA 2K, I was like, Now, what is this like? Right? I got other things to do. 

Paul Scheer [00:28:36] It’s not like you play NBA. You can go like, Wow, the acting on that my player, I mean. 

Carl Tart [00:28:42]  I didn’t know what the hell was going to happen. I didn’t know how deep they were going to start getting. This was probably one of the first ones where they really went deep into the storyline and they had all these cuts scenes and everything, so I didn’t know what that was going to be. So I, I did not prepare well for that one. So this time going in, knowing that I really wanted to do the show, knowing that I know that I was going to go in and be seen in front of a friend, I really prepare for it. And I had both, both character lines memorized and everything. And I like really did the work and wanted to do a good job. And then they call me back the second time and I went back in, had to do the same thing again. I figured that they were going, now that I seen Tim Chang in there, I feel like there’s going to be more people in the room that I was going to know. So just being prepared for that. Phil, probably Dan, who I also worked for and I, I didn’t know I was just preparing myself for everything and so went back and then they call me back for the chemistry reads. And then Phil called me and told me that I’d gotten the part and it was, you know, kind of surreal in that moment. And it still felt like it was it was amazing. And but then, you know, those thoughts, those intrusive thoughts get into your head. Like, now everybody’s going to think that I just got this because Phil’s my friend, they don’t know the process that I just went through. They don’t know how, you know, like they don’t get it right. And and so but it was that’s just what we do as people who care. And like I said, I was extremely grateful and I’m still extremely grateful for it. And for this to be my first long term job. I couldn’t ask for a better one for the fact that we do all know each other and are like because you know, you know you guys know how it is like being in that UCB greenroom where the person that’s booked a job comes in and they’re complaining about it a little bit and everybody’s like, Fuck you, man, we got to drink these free bud lights out of this fridge because we can’t afford drinks at the bar next door. I don’t give a shit that you’re having a horrible time on your TV show. Kiss my ass. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:30:34] There is something to be said for, you know what you’re talking about, which is, you know, what you guys have is an ensemble based comedy show that is majority your peer group, your friend group, the people that you, I’m assuming, love working with and are able to elevate in a way that is absolutely fantastic. Like your dynamic, your individual dynamics come through so hard. The fact that you guys all know each other and are vibing off of each other and are riffing off of each other. That is so much, it’s baked into the ensemble nature of this show, which makes it feel so much, so much funnier than just a sitcom that’s set up at a bar or whatever. There’s something about this friend group being based on your actual friends and having all of you guys there. It’s pretty fantastic. Like you riffing with Nicole and right now, like Nicole and Colton as a couple, like there’s stuff in this show that is just absolutely hilarious. 

Paul Scheer [00:31:32] And then there’s just stuff that I think I wrote you Carl last year, like in season one. I don’t remember which episode it was, but you’re wearing an all white outfit. The the opening moment of that is like the wine like tap. It’s like a beard, you know, like kind of breaks and you just get soaked in this. I laughed so hard at that like and there’s some big moments like that. I feel like the sleepover episode like this 103 like, yeah, like there’s like, so you can do this like, big, I don’t know, big fun comedy stuff. But then it’s also like based in these characters. I just love the I love the relationship between these characters. And you can kind of go between both of these things. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:32:16] Yeah, it’s got like real heart, but it’s also absolutely silly. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:32:20] Oh, yeah. I mean, we yeah, we want to do hard laughs. That’s, that’s the goal. You know what I mean. Oh yes. I will say with that cold open with the wearing white, I mean a version of that, I mean this show is just a heightened version of the stuff that we go through. Some of it is, you know, just pulled from the headlines of stuff we’ve gone through. And some of it’s like, oh, interesting conversations we have that we get to make stories out of. But I definitely spilled wine all over Carl. All over. All over Carl at this, is it called The Study, the place that’s next to Hyperion. Not Hyperion Public. Public House. 

Carl Tart [00:32:52] Public House, The Study, yeah. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:32:52] I don’t know if you remember, Carl, we were all at one night. We are all that one night. You were wearing a really dope outfit. And then I think we had switched locations to that bar. And I ordered, like, a cab saw, and I spilled it, like, all over your outfit. And you were like. And you were soaked. I mean, what are you going to do? It’s like you’re obviously you’re a little like, Oh, well, I wish that didn’t happen, but it’s like we’re homies. So you’re like, All right, yeah, No, it’s cool. That’s cool. That’s cool. And then much like the cold open, you’re like, Yeah, I think I’m going to go home. 

Carl Tart [00:33:25] Yeah. 

Paul Scheer [00:33:28] I just it makes me laugh so hard, because I feel like it is like, this is like a, again, the fun friend group. But then I also feel like there’s this other element that if like other shows really hasn’t captured, which is this wine culture stuff as well. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:33:42] Well, there’s like, there’s wine conversations in the show, you know, like akin to Sideways, you know, I mean, like where, where you guys seem to be interested in talking about not just as a setting but talking about the wine. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:33:55] That’s really I mean yeah I think and you know, Carl can speak to this too but like I think the goal is to track it over how our relationship with wine has evolved in real life. So like when we first started going to Covell, we didn’t really know anything. And so we’re asking a lot of questions and you know, it’s coming a little bit more from a place of kind of being new to the terrain and then the idea in season two is to make it kind of imbue it a little bit more seamlessly. Because the more time you spend at this place, the more you get to know what you like and things of that nature. And so that’s kind of, that was the thought behind how we’re shooting it. But it’s been really nice to see people that are wine enthusiasts really gravitate towards the show as well. 

Paul Scheer [00:34:34] Do you have like, you know, like hospital dramas will have like a medical expert on set. Do you have like a wine. Yeah. Somellier. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:34:41] Yeah, yeah. 

Carl Tart [00:34:42] Yeah, yeah. 

Paul Scheer [00:34:43] You do? 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:34:43] Devin Reed. Devin Reed. He’s awesome. 

Paul Scheer [00:34:46] I love that. And Carl, like, were you a wine drinker? But I mean, you were with this crew before that. Like, are you, are you still a wine drinker? Like, I feel like I can’t quite put my palate on. Like. Jason, you’ve introduced me to good wines. I like drinking, but I feel like I don’t have enough adventurous people. June will only drink one wine, which is called Butter. You can guess what that tastes like. It’s a white wine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And. But I don’t. I can’t drink that. It won’t, like it’s fine. It’s not my go to. Yeah like for me I’ll open up a bottle of red but I don’t know how to keep it. My friend just gave me like this like decanter that I put in there and it basically like it aerates. So it’s like you. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my God. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:35] Wide at the bottom. 

Paul Scheer [00:35:38] Oh, Oh, that. I have a, I have a decanter decanter. This is like a I put a plug in the top of it and then I put like a little machine, a little device in it that’s battery powered and has a–

Jason Mantzoukas [00:35:50] I think this is a dildo. Paul, you might be talking about a dildo.

Paul Scheer [00:35:55] Suck on it. And it vibrates. 

Carl Tart [00:35:59] Sticks to the wall of the bathtub. 

Paul Scheer [00:36:04] But it keeps the wine fresh. So now I’m able to, yeah I forget what it is called. It’s like a– 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:36:09] Like a regular, a regular like just corking it back would just you have to drink it within like two or three days. I think I’ve heard that. Yes you can have it for longer than that. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:36:20] I’ve got a couple, I’ve got a couple of different versions of this and yeah, they, they give you a couple of extra days basically, but not, not too much more. 

Carl Tart [00:36:27] I’m right with you there, Paul, when it comes to wine drinking. So the the pilot episode last season when we walk in and and I’m like, okay, I want to turn up like I’m not trying to, what is this that really happened one night, Phil had it, the night that we started going to Covell, Phil had a meeting there and he was like, You’ll just meet me. It was a Saturday night. So we were about to go out, you know, get on the town and Phil was like, meet me at this spot. And I’m like, Cool, I walk him to the bar and yeah, let me get a whiskey coke. And they’re like, We don’t do that here. And I’m like, Well, what are we doing here? 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:37:01] Because this is oh, this is a proper just like wine and beer bar. 

Carl Tart [00:37:05] Yeah. 

Paul Scheer [00:37:06] And the beer is not going to be like anything that you recognize. It’s going to be a small brew. It’s going to be, they have four different ciders. 

Carl Tart [00:37:12] And I don’t be wanting beer, you know, I mean, like I’m already like I’d rather have my carbs elsewhere. Like I’d rather go to Subway. I’d rather go to Jersey Mike’s. I don’t want to have I don’t want to drink my Jersey Mike’s. And so, but then once we got into it and we started learning about it and being able to talk it and stuff like that, then it got a lot easier to, to deal with. And I also do have a lot of wine here. Because we’ve all gone up the coast and joined clubs and they send the wine, then you got to be like, Hey, can you cancel this because I’m not drinking his wine as fast as you’re sending it.

Paul Scheer [00:37:43] You go up, whenever you go and visit any winery, like I’m going to drink this every day. And then all of a sudden, like two cases later, it’s like Oh shit, I gotta. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Carl Tart [00:37:51] And I have so much, and the only time I open it up is, you know, I don’t, I don’t drink at home. Really. And so I have wasted quite a few bottles when I open them and then leave them on the counter or put them in the fridge and then three weeks goes by, and I’m like I can’t drink this. It’s bad. So I’ve, I’ve gotten two glasses out of it if I’m, you know, entertaining a mademoiselle or something like that. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:13] A french woman. 

Carl Tart [00:38:15] Yeah, a french woman. A lot of french ladies in my neighborhood. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:38:20] You’re only going to give a French girl wine. 

Carl Tart [00:38:21] Yeah, yeah. When I’m at home cooking, I want Cactus Coolers or something like that. I don’t, I don’t want wine. And so, but I do like it when we go out and now that I can like talk it and, and really like, you know, identify. Like we have a, we have a mutual friend shout out Cassandra who works at the wine spot and she’ll like, quiz me. She’ll just pour up something and be like, okay, tell me what you, tell me what you taste, you know, And she’s the best. And we have like, we’ll sit there and I’ll be able to, you know, identify notes and stuff. Now. 

Paul Scheer [00:38:59] Guys, I know that the the show obviously is every Friday night, but I want to talk to you about what you’re all into. Phil, besides being a great writer directing the episodes this season as well, you also create music and I love your music. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:12] Including the theme song for Grand Crew. 

Grand Crew Theme [00:39:15] [Grand Crew Theme] 

Paul Scheer [00:39:33] You can follow Phil on Spotify, but what are you listening to? What are you watching? Like, what are you into right now? 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:39:37] Right now I’m trying to think what I’ve been listening to. I have been listening to. Any new albums that listening to? I’ve been listening to, like, old stuff. 

Paul Scheer [00:39:47] That’s good. Tell us. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:39:48] Yeah, I listen to a lot of, I love jazz, so I listen to a lot of Coltrane when I go on these walks and stuff like that. I feel like. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:39:56] There’s a there’s a recently released Elvin Jones album that is like old live Elvin type and it’s incredible. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:40:06] Okay, Yeah, I’ll check that out. I mean, that’s been the vibe lately. Like Anita Baker, Carl, Carl put together a playlist of, like, old school jams to help me get inspired for this season of Grand Crew. And so I listen to that playlist when I’m walking. When I’m walking sometimes. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:40:20] Ooh, that’s great. That’s great. That’s like, I love because I do that too. When I’m writing something, I bet it’s great that it came from Carl. I create a playlist that I feel like these are the songs from this script or this thing. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:40:33] Just like, Inspo is really fantastic. I just finished this book called Atomic Habits. That was pretty cool to like, just just to get inspired and just to get more efficient with life and shit like that. 

Paul Scheer [00:40:47] I got to tell you, a book that I think,I was going to tell Jason about this. I’ve been talking about this Rick Rubin’s book, The Creative Act, it is so good. It blew me away. Like, every now and then I’ll read a book. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:41:02] I’ll write that down. 

Paul Scheer [00:41:02] That like you’re talking about Atomic Habits where you’re like, Oh, this changes a little bit in my perception of things, The Creative Act, a way of being. Rick Rubin. It just changed my way of thinking about creativity, partnership, collaboration. And it’s like and it’s not like he’s not trying to sell you anything. Like it’s not like. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:41:22] He doesn’t need to like. Yes, absolutely. 

Paul Scheer [00:41:24] Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:41:25] That’s how I felt about that documentary he did. Shangri-La. That was that’s about his studio that was destroyed in the fires. Yeah, exactly. And it’s all about that studio and his process and it’s like five episodes and it’s very similar. It’s all about the creative process and what his kind of purpose or what his point of view is inside of his job as a producer. And it’s all to facilitate the creative process. That’s his whole thing, to not get in the way, to get out of the way and to help facilitate. Anyway, super interesting. And a million likes like great insights from him. I thought in that thing. 

Paul Scheer [00:42:06] It was so interesting. He was talking. You can listen to him read it too, because he reads his own book on an audible. So it’s he’s got a great voice and but I listened to him on an interview show. I’m not a big Grateful Dead fan. Like, that’s not been something that I’ve ever you know, I’m not against it, but I’m just not, you know, whatever. And he was talking about why they’re so interesting and they’re like, why? Why is that band like, why do people get behind it? And he was like, They’re not perfect. And that’s what’s interesting. He was like, There are bands out there that are tighter, that are stronger, that are better, but when you’re watching it, you feel like you’re watching something that’s wholly unique that can never really quite happen again. Like you’re part of it. It has that jazz element, an improv element that’s interesting. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:42:48] Well, that’s what I was just going to say as improvisers, what people love, what fans are obsessed with about the Grateful Dead, like the Grateful Dead’s studio albums are almost irrelevant to the fanbase. It is the interpretations of those songs that are performed live and how the band takes the inspiration from those original songs and turns them into these things that then are being interpreted for years and years and years. And so that’s why fans of the Dead are so dedicated to, Oh, my favorite version of that song is the Live at the Fillmore this or is that is this date here or this song really didn’t become what it was until they figured this part of it. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:43:28] So interesting. What so what types of changes are they, are they doing live though? Are we talking like–. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:32] Jams. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:43:32] Oh, okay, they’re jamming. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:33] It’s all jam. It’s all jams. And those jams then can inform a song that was recorded very slowly on an album becomes a much faster. Like the whole song can change. And this is the case for a lot of jazz albums as well. 

Carl Tart [00:43:54] Is Phish the same? 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:43:55] Phish is the same. You know. 

Paul Scheer [00:43:58] Phish is like, I feel like there’s a something that’s a little bit more elevated, I guess. But Tre Anastasio has like that thing, like he’s a genius. I don’t know, maybe. Maybe the culture, you know. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:44:08] It’s all those artists are about a similar again to what we do. Yeah they it’s, they are all about the the live performance, the live experience in that it’s there for this night only or whatever, you know like it is those those albums if you’re going to listen to, you know like Miles is never going to play you know, Olio the way he did on the album. He’s going to every, every show, every solo is a different interpretation of that. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:44:37] It’s interesting to think about an album being like an outline for the live performance, which is like, I’m not usually how I approach listening to music, but that’s cool. I think that’s really cool. 

Paul Scheer [00:44:48] Now Carl, you got a great podcast, Gossip Kings, where you’re watching Gossip Girls, and by the way, I’ve told so many people about this podcast, it’s hilarious. And I have people like young girls I know, listen to this podcast because they are also watching Gossip Girls like this happen to be watching it at the same time I’ve recommended it so it’s become like a hit there like, So you got to listen to that. But what else are you up to? Like, what are you into like listening to or watching or reading? 

Carl Tart [00:45:16] So I’ve always been like an old soul with music. My mom is, I got a young mom and so I listen to a lot of the music that she grew up listening to because she was still playing it because it’s, you know, what she likes. But I also, one thing I noticed before we had streaming platforms, DSPs and stuff like that, was I would know all these artists, but I only know one or two of their hits. And so I and now that we have access to like their whole catalogs, I’ll go back and listen to their albums and realize that some of them suck and I’m like, Man, they came out with like two good songs but this album is trash. And so like, I don’t want to put the artists out there, but I will say like, I mean, as far as new stuff goes, I’m still Drake and 21 Savage’s album is still in heavy rotation for me. Of course, SZA’s new album is is still the heavy rotation for me is very, very good. And I listen to the R&B Spotify playlist and find new artists to check out. And I also still play. I’ve realized that I’m becoming the old head that only plays music from when I first started driving. And so my 2007 playlists are very in rotation right now, especially when I go back to like the area I grew up in, which is just, you know, the west side of L.A. If I’m going to like, check my mail or something. I think I need to turn on this and I remember when I first used to turn down this street when I was a senior in high school or whatever, but watching wise, yeah, we’ve been XOXO Gossip Kings, the podcast. I am watching Gossip Girl in real time one at like one or two episodes a week, so don’t spoil anything for me. Those people out there if you do I’ll block you.

Jason Mantzoukas [00:46:58] How far because this has been going on for years now, how far into this are you? 

Carl Tart [00:47:03] Season four, episode six. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:04] Wow. 

Carl Tart [00:47:04] I think there are six. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:47:06] Oh, okay. 

Paul Scheer [00:47:09] Who is your favorite Gossip Girl?

Carl Tart [00:47:10] Oh man, Paul, these people are so terrible. And watching this through the lens of a 33 year old man, 33 year old black man at that. This is an experience that I have no interest in. And so but I do like the show. I’m not gonna say I don’t like it, but I also hate it at the same time. But I don’t have a favorite character because these are all the types of people who I’ve dealt with over the years and I hate these type people. So people ask, Well, who’s your favorite character on the show? I go, Rufus, the dad, and everybody’s like, Why do you like him? He doesn’t do anything. And I go, Yeah, but he’s the only normal, nice person. Everybody else is such a piece of shit. And so it’s very hard. Rufus and Serena’s little brother is also like a normal person. 

Paul Scheer [00:47:59] Rufus, the dad. Guys, season two has started. You could start off if you want to. Like season two. We’re coming back from a cliffhanger of season one, Noah as proposed, but you’re still you could catch up if you have Peacock. And shout out, Peacock. They’ve got great stuff. You can catch up on Grand Crew whenever you want. It’s open to you, but if you want to watch it live on NBC, you should. That’s on Friday nights. 8:30 That’s right. 8:30. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:27] And listen. If you’ve got Peacock, order, pull up Grand Crew and play the whole thing straight in a row. Just, just auto play the whole season and make your way through it. But auto play the whole season. Finish the show. 

Paul Scheer [00:48:40] Yes, it makes a difference. In our world now, it makes a difference. Get on it. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:44] Really does. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:48:44] And also, it should be noted that I think everyone in this room has worked on Brooklyn Nine-Nine in some capacity. 

Carl Tart [00:48:49] Yeah. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:48:49] Yes. 

Paul Scheer [00:48:49]  Yeah. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:48:50] And so now it has been established that Grand Crew exists in the Brooklyn Nine-Nine universe. 

Paul Scheer [00:48:55] This is amazing. Yes. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:48:56] We had Wil Hynes on the show as his character from Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Carl Kirm. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:00] Incredible. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:49:01] And so that’s just the thing I wanted to say, and I was very happy to do that. And Will was my old roommate, you know. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:08] Adrian Pimento on Grand Crew. Make it happen. 

Paul Scheer [00:49:11] Yeah, my cybersecurity expert who loves charcuterie. Talk about eating food on set. There is a bit that we cut out of Brooklyn Nine-Nine. It was like me and Chelsea Brady going at it and I had to eat a whole like olive and then spit out the pit. But it was hard to de like to get, clean the olive every time and they had to cut it for time. But Chelsea was like that was like one of my favorite bits in the show that we could, that is not on the show because it just took too long. 

Carl Tart [00:49:39] My character, I played a delivery man who got, who was really high, who got scared during a crime scene on Brooklyn Nine-Nine. That delivery man did not have a name, Was his name Shirm? 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:51] Probably. 

Paul Scheer [00:49:53] Yes. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:49:54] He had a little thing in Brooklyn. 

Jason Mantzoukas [00:49:55] That would be pretty great. That would be pretty great. But yeah, whenever you need me, Pimento absolutely, we can roll right through Grand Crew, it’d cause a lot of chaos. 

Paul Scheer [00:50:07] This is so fun guys. Watch Grand Crew. You will love it. And the cast is not just, I just think it’s one of the best casts on TV too. We talked about Nicole Byers, a How Did This Get Made favorite. So watch her on the show. I think she’s fantastic on this show. Echo Kellum is so great. Everybody, you’ve introduced me to people that I love, too. So Grand Crew, Peacock, NBC, Do it up. Thank you, Phil. Thank you, Carl. 

Phil Augusta Jackson [00:50:32] Thank you so much with us. 

Carl Tart [00:50:33] Appreciate you. 

Paul Scheer [00:50:34] Thank you so much to Phil and Carl for chatting with me and Jason. And be sure to check out season two of Grand Crew airing every Friday at 8:30 p.m. or stream it on Peacock. And to all you singer and songwriters out there, remember, we’re always accepting new theme songs for Just Chat and other Last Look segments so send them in to HowDidThisGetMade@Earwolf.com. Okay, now that we got Ski School out of the way, let’s talk about next week’s film. We are going from a race in the snow to a chase for some dough. That’s right. I love, I love these transitions. We are watching the 2022 action flick Ambulance, directed by Michael Bay and starring Jake Gyllenhaal. Here’s a short breakdown of the plot. Two brothers, one a career criminal, the other a decorated veteran, hijack an ambulance after a heist getaway that goes spectacularly wrong. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 68% score on the tomatometer. And Kristy Lemir KPCC in Los Angeles says, “Ambulance is so dumb and I was so ashamed of myself for enjoying it as much as I did.” Kristy. I feel the same. Let’s take a listen to the trailer. 

Trailer Audio [00:51:37] 32 million. You’re my brother. I will do anything for you. Get down, down, down. I came to you for a loan. Not this. Bank robbery suspects have taken an ambulance. Hostages Now. Does your wife know you rob banks? Are going to get your back home. Your brother. Come on, Get everybody home. Ambulance. 

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