August 8, 2023
EP. 217 — Nicole Hates to Lose Things Too! with Punkie Johnson and Dicey
Guess what time it is? It’s time for Besting Each Other with Punkie Johnson and Dicey. Dicey shares that when she first met Punkie, she was appalled by Punkie’s behavior. Punkie loves Dicey’s ability to pull her away when it’s time to go but hates that Dicey loses everything. Dicey loves Punkie’s fearlessness but can’t stand that she eats so many onions! Dicey and Punkie believe they would do better on the show Survivor than the other person. In 20 years, Dicey wants them to live like the Golden Girls, travel with their kids and continue to cuss each other out. Punkie agrees and believes their love language is verbal abuse. Together, they host the podcast Love Thang with Punkie Johnson on Kevin Hart’s SiriusXM LOL Channel.
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Transcript
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Sasheer [00:01:03] Hi, friends. This is Sasheer. Do you ever say to yourself, “I love hearing Nicole and Sasheer talk to each other each week, but I’m dying for more content?” Well, you’re in luck. I’m coming out with a new stand up special where I’ll be talking uninterrupted for an hour. This is the first special I’ve produced, and I’m so excited for you to see it. If you want to contribute, it’ll be available on the £800 gorilla website and a pay what you can model starting August 15th, and then it’ll be free on YouTube starting August 29th. Thanks again for supporting me, Nicole, and our show, but mostly me. Thank you so much.
Nicole [00:01:54] Hello, Sasheer.
Sasheer [00:01:56] Hi, Nicole!
Nicole [00:01:58] Guess what time it is.
Sasheer [00:02:01] 4:30.
Nicole [00:02:02] No. Well, for me, it’s 3:26, But it’s time to play Besting Each Other!
Sasheer [00:02:07] Oh, that’s what you’re talking about. Yes, it’s time to play Besting Each Other.
Nicole [00:02:12] And do you want to know who I found personally today?
Sasheer [00:02:15] Who did you find personally?
Nicole [00:02:18] I found personally best friends Punkie Johnson and Dicey Douglas to be on the show.
Sasheer [00:02:23] Oh! I know Punkie from SNL! And all the stand-up that she does.
Nicole [00:02:30] And I know Dicey personally from stand-up and writing and a celebrity nail artist.
Sasheer [00:02:33] They have a podcast called Love Thang, and together they give their best and highly unqualified relationship advice.
Nicole [00:02:43] They also are doing stand-up. So, catch them in the city near you–the Childish and Petty Tour. And new episodes of Love Thang–they premiere exclusively on SiriusXM on Kevin Hart’s Laugh Out Loud Radio Channel 96. It airs Monday nights at 7:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. We’re going to start with Dicey.
Sasheer [00:03:07] Okay, so we have split up the friends. And we have Dicey here to talk about her friendship with Punkie and to see if you two really are best friends.
Nicole [00:03:18] Yeah. If you get anything wrong, you got to end your friendship. Sorry. We don’t make up the rules.
Sasheer [00:03:23] Yeah. High stakes on this show.
Nicole [00:03:25] Very high stakes. First question: How did you two meet?
Dicey [00:03:32] So me and Punkie met at the Comedy Store probably, like, 12 years ago. I don’t think this particular time I noticed her, I don’t think she knew who I was, but I was completely appalled by her behavior. She used to be a server. Everybody knows she’s going to cuss you out, but she’s going to give you, like, a nice ass pour on your drink. They call it “Punkie Pour” still to this day at the Comedy Store because she would pour half of a bottle into your cup. But anyway, she was coming through. It was the open mic; it’s called Potluck. And she was walking through with a tray. And she had really long locks. SNL made her cut them shorter, but they were, like, all the way down to her butt. And she swung her locks into somebody’s drink. And the woman was like, “Oh, excuse me. Your hair was in my drink.” She turned around and was like, “I don’t give a fuck!” And then the woman was like, “Oh, yeah. Sure, sure. Okay. I’m just going to drink this drink.” And I was appalled. I was like, “I’m just going to steer clear of this bitch as long as possible. She is the rudest person.” So then fast forward to maybe six months later, we were both hosting at this open mic called Marty’s. And shout out Marty’s. It was basically a joke gym. You just go work stuff out there. And then we just instantly clicked, and I just had to have her in my life. It was just the strangest obsession I had with her after that. So that’s kind of how we met.
Sasheer [00:05:18] I love that.
Nicole [00:05:20] I like it, too. I like that you’re like, “I’m going to stay away from this person.” And then you’re like, “I gotta be near this person.”
Dicey [00:05:24] Yeah.
Sasheer [00:05:27] Fear into love. I like that. Next question is: What’s your favorite memory of traveling together?
Dicey [00:05:37] Oh my gosh. You know what? I traveled with her more than anybody in life. And what’s my favorite? I just think my favorite is all the time because we just act so stupid and we love to mess with hotel staff everywhere. I think that’s probably just my favorite thing that we do together is just, like, come in after our shows because we both do stand-up, obviously. So, after our shows, she has the speaker on. And we walk through the hotel, like, at two in the morning, super loud and drunk. And that’s probably my favorite memory. That’s my favorite thing we do together, traveling.
Nicole [00:06:19] Do you have a favorite location that you’ve been to together?
Dicey [00:06:24] Maybe Milwaukee or Phoenix.
Sasheer [00:06:27] Really?
Dicey [00:06:28] Yeah. We love Milwaukee. I was not expecting that.
Sasheer [00:06:34] Because of the crowd or the actual city?
Dicey [00:06:37] The city, the cheese curds, the food, the beer, the everything. It was great. It was so fun. And Phoenix–we just had really, really good shows in Phoenix. And Chicago–Chicago was another place where we… Okay, so Chicago… This was way before she was famous. It was, like, six comics. She was like, “I found us this Airbnb. It’s only going to be $50 a piece per night.” And we got there, and it was cots. And she kept falling out of her cot. All night long she was falling out of this cot and, like, waking me up. And we were in Candyman’s neighborhood. I don’t know if y’all know Candyman. But one of my one of my friends–a friend I have in Chicago–he was like, “Send me the address where y’all are. I can pick y’all up.” And I sent him the address. He was like, “No, send me the address to where y’all really are.” I was like, “No, this is where we really are.” He couldn’t believe the hood that this bitch booked our Airbnb in. But we had so much fun in Chicago. So those are the three places. Chicago’s probably the funnest, honestly.
Nicole [00:07:47] I do love Chicago, the Windy City. Also, the coldest city and the hottest city in the summer. Damn. What is your favorite thing about Punkie?
Dicey [00:07:58] My favorite thing about Punkie is her fearlessness, I think. You know, like, just growing up gay and not being accepted by parts of her family. And also, how she handles her business and how seriously she takes her career. And she’s just so, like, on it. That’s what I admire the most about her. I don’t like a lot of things about her, but that’s one of the things that I love about her.
Nicole [00:08:31] “I don’t really like her, but here’s one thing.”
Dicey [00:08:33] Yeah.
Sasheer [00:08:37] I like that. Okay, so if you had to guess, what do you think Punkie’s favorite thing is about you?
Dicey [00:08:46] I would say maybe that I’m loyal and that we don’t… I don’t take anything personally. So, I don’t really hang out that much with… My really good friends are always gay for some reason. And I’m super straight. But gay women–they’re not competitive. I’m very raw, and I just say whatever I want to say. And we both do that to each other. And I just think the way we can talk to each other freely and just cuss each other out all day… I think that’s probably what she would say she likes the most about me. And I’m just a loyal person, too. Like if I don’t fuck with somebody, she don’t fuck with them. And that’s just how it is. And vice versa, you know?
Nicole [00:09:35] Okay.
Sasheer [00:09:36] That’s important.
Nicole [00:09:37] It is important.
Sasheer [00:09:38] You gotta hate the same people.
Nicole [00:09:39] You absolutely do. If you can’t hate on the same people, what is a friendship? If you can’t talk shit about them together, what are we all doing?
Dicey [00:09:46] Exactly.
Sasheer [00:09:49] What is something that you do that drives Punkie crazy?
Dicey [00:09:54] I’m very… I lose stuff a lot. And I’m kind of irresponsible and dumb. I’m so smart, but I’m so stupid at the same time.
Sasheer [00:10:09] Give us an example of that. How have you been irresponsible?
Dicey [00:10:11] I’ll lose something in every city. I lose my phone. I lose my purse. I lock myself out of a hotel room a lot. I’m very clumsy. I’m always falling. I’m always running into the trees or just, you know…
Nicole [00:10:31] Trees?
Sasheer [00:10:32] Those are big.
Nicole [00:10:39] You just going to places not looking for the trees? Just zooms through the trees!
Sasheer [00:10:45] Not seeing the forest for the trees.
Dicey [00:10:49] Yes.
Sasheer [00:10:49] Okay. What is something that Punkie does that drives you crazy?
Dicey [00:10:58] She eats onions on everything. And her breath always smells like onions no matter what. She will light a whole car up because this bitch… You know, she’s from New Orleans, though. It’s onions and garlic, and she orders all her seasonings from New Orleans. One time… I was at her place when she stayed in Manhattan. She was like, “Bitch, there’s going to be a package that comes, so go down there and get the package.” And it was, like, a super long box because she had ordered French bread from New Orleans. I’m telling you, like, the length of a couch, okay? I can’t stand that she puts onions in every single thing. Raw, cooked–it doesn’t matter. It’s going to be a whole onion in whatever it is. So…
Nicole [00:11:49] That’s so funny. Just onions. Just onions everywhere. “Give me an onion!”
Sasheer [00:11:54] Have you told her that you didn’t like the smell?
Dicey [00:11:59] I mean, she knows. She knows how I feel. My mom is actually a master gardener, so she grows. In her garden this year, she probably had, like, 500 or 600 onions. And so, I brought Punkie. I bring her every year to every onion harvest. I bring her a bunch of onions. And they’re so fresh and so good. But I have definitely told her how I feel about… Yeah, she knows how I feel.
Sasheer [00:12:29] But then you bring her hundreds of onions.
Nicole [00:12:29] Do you ever feel like you’re giving her mixed messages.
Sasheer [00:12:33] Yes!
Nicole [00:12:33] You’re bringing her onions, and you don’t like that she smells like onions.
Sasheer [00:12:36] After a while, this is on you.
Dicey [00:12:38] I know. But I just know she loves them. You know what I mean? I wasn’t supposed to be staying with her all summer. I had another place here that kind of… Whatever. That’s a whole nother story. But usually, I’m just giving her the onions to have, and then I’m going about my business, you know what I mean? So, I don’t have to smell them on her.
Sasheer [00:12:58] Oh, I see. Now you’re living with her, seeing her 24/7.
Dicey [00:13:00] In there. Yeah. Yeah.
Nicole [00:13:01] Living with her, seeing it. 24/7.
Dicey [00:13:04] Exactly.
Sasheer [00:13:08] Which one of you would do better on the television show Survivor?
Dicey [00:13:15] Definitely me. She’s so prissy. Y’all have no idea how she really is. She’s OCD. I mean, the other day, we had some wine, and it was in her backpack. And so, since she had already taken a shower and been off the train… Basically she doesn’t touch anything that has already been on the train with her after she takes a shower. So, she’s so OCD that she made me go all the way to her backpack. I had to dig through there to get the stuff out that I wanted. And I don’t see how she would survive in the wilderness. Like, I’m a country girl. I grew up with horses and cows on farms–ranches and all kind of stuff. I could definitely survive. She would not. No.
Nicole [00:14:07] Okay. Unless there’s trees out there. Then the trees will probably get you. What do you hope you’re both doing in 20 years?
Dicey [00:14:20] In 20 years, I hope we’re like the Golden Girls. I hope we have, like, wicker furniture. You know what I mean? Like, with flowers on it and, like… Just I hope we’re vacationing together with our kids. That’s kind of what I hope in 20 years. We’re still cussing each other out. And I hope we’re both still here in 20 years.
Nicole [00:14:44] I think you will be. 20 years is going to come real quick.
Dicey [00:14:50] I’m telling you; 20 years goes by… I just can’t believe how fast 20 years goes by. It’s crazy.
Nicole [00:14:56] Yeah, I can’t believe how old I am.
Dicey [00:14:56] Me either. How old I am…
Nicole [00:15:02] It’s wild.
Dicey [00:15:04] I don’t know where this time has gone. But this rock star lifestyle we live–you know–hopefully we’ll be here in 20 years. That’s why I’m drinking wine instead of tequila today.
Sasheer [00:15:16] That’s why.
Nicole [00:15:18] I love it. Just a light wine instead of some tequila. Just an easy, breezy summer day.
Sasheer [00:15:26] I love that. Okay, great. So now we are going to bring Punkie in, ask some questions about your friendship, and see how close you are to each other.
Nicole [00:15:35] Yeah. And we’re going to compare and contrast later. And we’re really going to see. Is… this… friendship… good?
Sasheer [00:15:39] We’re going to peel back the layers of the friendship. Like an onion!
Nicole [00:15:50] Yes. And see how deep that onion goes.
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Nicole [00:17:07] Okay, Punkie, we’re going to begin. We’re going to find out how well you know Dicey. Okay. First question–simple one: How did you two meet?
Punkie [00:17:19] Well, we met twice because the first time we met I didn’t know we was meeting. She just saw me interact with somebody at the Comedy Store, and she was like, “Uch, I don’t like her.” And then the second time where we actually knew we would meet was at Marty’s, an open mic comedy, little spot.
Nicole [00:17:37] Do you remember why she didn’t want to be near you or be your friend at first?
Punkie [00:17:43] She said I was mean to a customer because my dreads got in somebody’s drink and I was like, “I don’t care.” But that’s not the case. That’s not the case.
Nicole [00:17:52] What’s your side of the story?
Punkie [00:17:54] My side of the story is you see how long my hair is. Move your drink out the way when I pass. And you wanted a dirty martini.
Sasheer [00:18:05] Oh no. “Extra flavoring in here. Okay.”
Nicole [00:18:14] “A little earthy.”
Sasheer [00:18:23] And then the second time you guys met, who approached you? Or, like, how did you actually meet each other?
Punkie [00:18:30] Oh, lord. I don’t remember. I think somebody was on stage. I was on stage, or she was on stage. And then… I don’t remember. That was too long ago. That was 12 years ago.
Sasheer [00:18:41] Yeah.
Nicole [00:18:42] Fair. 12 years is a very long time.
Sasheer [00:18:45] This is true. What is your favorite memory of traveling together?
Punkie [00:18:53] I don’t have a favorite memory of traveling with Dicey. Dicey loses everything. Dicey loses everything. She’s losing her purse. She’s losing her phone. She’s losing her bag. Every single time we go anywhere, we got to stop what we doing and we got to help her find it. I think the most memorable loss was Chicago, where she left her bag or her purse in the produce section of the grocery store. And conveniently she didn’t know until a check came out at the restaurant we was at. She was like, “Oh! I can’t find my… Oh no.” I almost think she left it under that melon on purpose, so I could take care of the tab. Had us looking everywhere. We looked under the benches, we looked in the bathroom, we walked around the whole pizza joint, we went to CBS… I mean, we literally backtracked to every place we went. How are you going to go under that melon to find a purse?
Sasheer [00:19:58] So how long had it been since it was missing? Like, hours?
Punkie [00:20:01] It was missing for hours.
Nicole [00:20:05] It was still under that melon.
Punkie [00:20:06] It was missing for literally at least three hours.
Sasheer [00:20:11] Wow. That is very funny.
Punkie [00:20:12] And annoying.
Sasheer [00:20:16] What would you say your favorite thing is about Dicey?
Punkie [00:20:22] Oh, God. I don’t know. Dicey knows when to pull me away because I’ll be getting in trouble. So, she knows how to be the adult when it’s time for me to stop. When we go on the road, I’ll get in trouble. I start drinking. I start mixing up with the people. I’ll be giving fans my number–email–telling them I’m going to hang out. Just really bonding with the people, and she’ll be like, “No, no, no. We’re done. No, no, no, no, no. Let’s go. We’re done.” So, she’s really, really good at facilitating the way I do business because I don’t do business very well.
Sasheer [00:21:11] That’s important. It’s very important.
Punkie [00:21:13] I want to be everybody’s friend.
Sasheer [00:21:16] Yeah. You need someone to say, “This is not our friend. We don’t know this person. We can go home.” If you had to guess, what do you think Dicey’s favorite thing is about you?
Punkie [00:21:35] Fun. All right? I don’t care what nobody say. I’m fun. Every time we go out, I take care of everybody. I treat everybody. I am fun. You know what? Maybe not these words, but I am very hospitable. I make sure my people are taken care of. I make sure the food is right–everybody’s comfortable. I make sure things get done. You know what I’m saying? I’m the leader, so she knows how to facilitate my business. And I’m the leader. Like, she’s dumb in the airport. So, I’m like, “No, no, no. We’re going to go this way.” She’s dumb. When she’s with me, she knows she doesn’t have to think because I’m going to navigate us through everything. And when I start drinking and being all in a crowd with the people, she knows when to pull me away. So, it’s a really great give and take relationship. One time she said, “All right. Well, you look all right. I’ll go ahead and go.” And the next day I called; I said, “You can never leave me again. You can never leave me.” I got in so much trouble that night because I didn’t have nobody to pull me away.
Sasheer [00:22:46] Yeah.
Punkie [00:22:47] So I said, “I don’t care, Dicey. I don’t care how fine I look. I’m not fine, so don’t do that to me.”
Nicole [00:22:52] I mean, that’s good to have a friend who can pull you back from the ledge and say, “Hey, we got to go home.” I can probably guess, but what’s something that you do that drives Dicey crazy?
Punkie [00:23:12] Oh. I have an anger problem. I always got something to say. Always. I’m always talking mad shit. So, I guess I don’t know when to keep my mouth closed. You know what? I think it might be my OCD. I have an OCD issue. Like the other day, we had just got off the train, I went inside, I took a shower, and she said, “Can you get me that water out of your bag?” And I said, “I just took a shower. That bag was on the train. I’m not touching the bag. If you want the water out of the bag, you go get it yourself.” I’m very, very like, “Everything got to be faced a certain way in the house.” You know what she did the other day that pissed me off? I use the pink Himalayan salt. She left, like, three pebbles in it. And I was like, “If you ever do this again, I’m. going to break your fingers. Do not ever, ever leave this much of seasoning and in my cabinet ever again.”
Sasheer [00:24:17] Yeah, just oversalt whatever you’re salting. Just, like, finish it off.
Punkie [00:24:24] Or put it under the bathroom cabinet. I don’t care where you put it–just out my sight.
Nicole [00:24:29] Yeah, because you can’t season nothing with three little pebbles of salt.
Punkie [00:24:33] No. What are you doing?
Nicole [00:24:36] Do you ever Lysol your bag when you come back from the train?
Punkie [00:24:40] No, I just keep it on the floor. But immediately when I get inside, I wash my hands and Lysol my phone.
Nicole [00:24:48] Okay.
Sasheer [00:24:50] What about your wallet or something inside of your bag?
Punkie [00:24:58] I’m never going to need it.
Sasheer [00:25:04] Never going to need it?
Nicole [00:25:05] You just live in a way that you’re never, ever, ever going to need it. Everything AutoFills on the computer. Everything AutoFills on the phone. You just don’t need it.
Punkie [00:25:14] And I got pockets. Pockets all day.
Nicole [00:25:22] No, I get you. The outside is dirty.
Sasheer [00:25:25] The outside is dirty.
Punkie [00:25:26] Yeah. If you rode on the train, you can’t sit on a couch. I’m gonna give you a pair of shorts, or I’m gonna put a little sheet over the couch. No train ass can go on my sofa. I put my face in that sofa, you know?
Sasheer [00:25:43] That’s a good point.
Nicole [00:25:47] That’s like when people take a flight and then want to, like, sleep immediately after the flight and not take a shower. And I’m like, “Planes are dirty. You were with all those people. Get in the shower!”
Punkie [00:25:57] Whenever I get out, you know, nine times out of ten, I wash my hair. You know what I’m saying? Now, when I’m on a train, nine times out of ten, I got a hat on, and my hair is tucked in my shirt so it don’t touch the train. But if I get off a plane or Amtrak where I’m kind of, like, chilling and sleeping, I wash my hair.
Nicole [00:26:17] I get it. It’s dirty out there.
Punkie [00:26:20] Because our beds are dirty. Like, a lot of people don’t know that. Our beds are one of the dirtiest places that we are in because–number one–we shed when we sleep. And number two–our hair is all over the place throughout the day. So, if we don’t wash our hair when we get in, whatever our hair has pulled from the wind–from any area–is going into our pillowcase.
Nicole [00:26:46] And that’s why I wear a bonnet. It has nothing to do with protecting my hair. I said, “Keep the outside away.”
Sasheer [00:26:55] It’s for all the pollutants. Just trap it inside the bonnet.
Punkie [00:27:00] Yeah. Does anything annoy you about yourself? That honestly annoys me about myself. I’m very annoyed that I’m like that. It really, really gets on my nerves. Yeah.
Nicole [00:27:13] I’m like Dicey. I lose a lot of stuff, and I’m late to things. And I get so disappointed in myself when I lose something. And I’m like, “But it was just in…” Or, like, I’ll have sunglasses on my head or my glasses on my head, and I will look around my house for my glasses that are on my person. And when I finally figure it out, I’m almost near tears because I’m like, “You idiot.”
Punkie [00:27:36] Or you go look in the mirror and be like…
Nicole [00:27:38] Yeah, or I’m looking for my phone and it’s in my hand. Or I’m on the phone being like, “I lost my phone.” And then the person will wait a while before they’re like, “You’re on your phone.” And I’m like, “Oh no.”
Sasheer [00:27:53] I overthink.
Punkie [00:27:55] I hate when I lose stuff. Oh, you overthink?
Sasheer [00:27:58] I overthink. Yeah. I’ll, like–I dunno–analyze something I said five years ago and just, like, mull it over and be like, “I should apologize.” Or, like, just things that no one else is thinking about. And then when I, like, ask the question or realize what actually happened, then I’m like, “Oh, that was wasted energy. I didn’t need to be stressed about that at all. That sucks. I just could have been living my life just fine like that other person was.”
Punkie [00:28:25] Yeah, I tend to do that if I had just a little bit too much to drink at a party. The next day, I’m overanalyzing and overthinking everything. I’ll be like, “What did I say? Why did I say that?” But I’ve been slowing down with that because I hate feeling like that.
Nicole [00:28:42] Me too.
Sasheer [00:28:42] Yeah. Same.
Punkie [00:28:45] I remember when I saw you, Nicole, at the afterparty, the next day I was like, “Oh, God.” I was talking mad shit to you, and you was talking mad shit to me. And I was just like, “I hope I didn’t say anything too, too crazy!”
Nicole [00:29:03] Honestly, the next day I was like, “Maybe I shouldn’t have said that to Punkie.” But honestly, I stand by what I said to you, if you remember.
Punkie [00:29:13] What?
Sasheer [00:29:16] I want to know! Tell me after!
Punkie [00:29:18] Oh, trust me. I’m pretty sure you know. I’m pretty sure y’all have had this conversation. So, when we off the record, we’ll definitely talk about it.
Sasheer [00:29:29] Okay, good. Okay.
Nicole [00:29:34] What is–? Yeah. It’s your turn to ask.
Sasheer [00:29:35] Oh, okay. What is something that Dicey does that drives you crazy? You’ve probably already answered it.
Punkie [00:29:42] Yeah, I think I said one, right? She’s always losing. Oh, you know what? Got another for you. She’s a vegetarian. Hate it. Hate it. Hate it. The other day she was fixing a sandwich, and I got so mad. I cursed her out. I was like, “I’m so sick of you damn vegan people using our meat eaters’ words to describe your fricking food. Tomatoes, cucumber, and avocado between bread ain’t no damn sandwich! Sandwiches require meat, so don’t call it a sandwich. You have some toast and some veggies.”
Sasheer [00:30:27] Yeah. That’s appropriation, really. They’re appropriating our culture.
Punkie [00:30:34] Thank you. I don’t like that. One day I was so angry. She was like, “I’m going to fix me up a good old sandwich.” Ain’t nothing on that sandwich but rabbit food.
Nicole [00:30:40] Okay, which one of you would do better on the CBS television series Survivor?
Punkie [00:30:58] Me! You can’t survive if you keep losing stuff and you have no sense of direction. She’s sitting up there. “We got to climb a mountain.” Now, we dead. “I know I had the… Now the last place I– I’m telling you, I had it on me the whole time.” No, you didn’t.
Sasheer [00:31:26] It’s under the melons.
Punkie [00:31:28] Listen, she just lost her cell phone the other day, right before she went on. They called her name to the stage. “Punkie, look for my phone in one of the bathrooms. I put it on a shelf somewhere.” So, we found her phone. Then she got off the stage and said, “You know what? As soon as I put that phone down, I knew I was going to leave it. But I told myself I wasn’t going to do it this time, and I ended up doing it.” I was just like, “Get out of my… Just shut up and get out of my face.”
Sasheer [00:31:58] Oh, it’s good that you guys have each other.
Nicole [00:32:02] Yes. I identify with Dicey so much. I have put things down, being like, “This time I’m going to remember to pick it up.” And then 20 minutes later, I’m like, “Oh boy, it’s gone forever.” I lost a whole wig the other day. I don’t know where I put it. It was on my head. And then it wasn’t. And then it went into the universe. I have no idea where I put it.
Sasheer [00:32:23] Whoa!
Punkie [00:32:25] Your wig’s out there somewhere wigging, waiting for you to find it. And then when you find it, you’re going to be like, “Exactly where I left you.”
Nicole [00:32:38] “Oh, yeah! Exactly where I put them when I take them off.
Sasheer [00:32:44] One time, Nicole put her phone on top of the car and then got in the car. And then we were driving down the street, and she saw the phone fly behind us. And she goes, “Ugh! There goes my phone.” And I was like, “Pull over! Let’s go get it!”
Nicole [00:32:59] That thought never occurred to me. I saw it, and I said, “Well, I guess I don’t have a phone anymore.”
Sasheer [00:33:05] “That’s that. That’s the end of that. I don’t have a phone. I’m a phoneless person.”
Punkie [00:33:10] What can you do?
Nicole [00:33:11] We did get it back.
Sasheer [00:33:13] We did get it back.
Punkie [00:33:19] I mean, the reason why I know I gotta go back and get my phone–even though I know it was crushed–is because they got some stuff in this phone. Okay? Like, nothing illegal. They just got stuff.
Sasheer [00:33:32] Just personal stuff.
Nicole [00:33:33] A little spicy.
Punkie [00:33:35] Very, very, very, very spicy.
Sasheer [00:33:40] Okay, last question: What do you hope you’re both doing 20 years from now?
Punkie [00:33:47] Well, two things, honestly. Number one, I hope we still get this money. You know, I hope to be on the road with her. But as long as we got breath in our bodies… This might be a long answer. We’re trying to start our charity check-ins–so I hope we still doing that–where we take care of comedians, especially if they have mental health issues, give them a place to live for a couple of months… We will facilitate them so that you can get your life together. We do as much as we can for four to six months, move them out, get the next comedians in. So hopefully our charity will be active. And be on the road–both of us be doing hours instead of she featuring, we’ll be on equal platforms. And honestly, vacation and then going all over the world.
Sasheer [00:34:35] I love that.
Nicole [00:34:35] I like that. That’s nice.
Punkie [00:34:36] That’s my dog. That’s my dog.
Sasheer [00:34:40] Beautiful.
Nicole [00:34:43] That is beautiful. I like your relationship. It’s fun.
Punkie [00:34:47] It’s definitely one of those relationships where the love comes from verbal abuse. And to make each other mad is when we stop being nice. Like, if I text her and be like, “Morning, queen!” she would be like, “If you ever talk to me like that again…” She’d rather “Hey, you dumb bitch.” You know, like, that is more of our… And I think that’s good, too, because–I don’t know how to really explain it–but I have a girlfriend and she have guys and we don’t want the guy to think I’m coming onto her, and I don’t want my old lady to think it because we are strictly just friends. We have a very different type of relationship. It can make any partner that you with jealous because we just know each other like books, you know what I’m saying? And the way we converse is very, like… “Damn, y’all seem like sisters or twins.” I could finish her sentences; she could finish mine. So, it could definitely make your partner think, like… So that’s why I’m also happy that we have that type of relationship where we just look like we fighting all the time. That’s just how we talk to each other.
Nicole [00:36:10] I like it. It’s more like siblings. It’s not romantic or anything.
Punkie [00:36:15] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sasheer [00:36:18] Well, now I need to compare your answers to see if you’re actually friends.
Nicole [00:36:24] Yes. So, we’re going to bring Dicey back in.
Sasheer [00:36:28] We’re gonna see how close you got.
Punkie [00:36:33] I’m telling you right now, she better have every answer right or I’m going to slap. But not me.
Sasheer [00:36:44] Yeah. It’s her fault.
Nicole [00:36:45] Yeah, it’s her fault. You’re fine.
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Nicole [00:38:32] We’re in the arena with Punkie and Dicey. And we’re going to figure out if they’re actually friends! We asked, “How did you two meet?” Dicey said they met at the Comedy Store 12 years ago and she was appalled by her behavior. As a server, Punkie would give people the Punkie Pour, which was, like, half a bottle in one drink. And she accidentally swung her locks into someone’s drink, and the person let her know. Punkie said, “I don’t give a fuck!” And Dicey was appalled! She said, “Uh-uh!” Fast forward to six months later. They hosted an open mic and they instantly clicked. Punkie said, “Well, we met twice. First time she saw me interact with someone at the Comedy Store. She said I was mean to someone ’cause my dreads hit her drink.” And Punkie said, “If you see me coming, move your drink out the way. You see these locks.” Second time was at Marty’s open mic, and someone was on stage, but she doesn’t remember who exactly. So, ding, ding. Checkmark.
Sasheer [00:39:32] Yeah, that was good. Okay, then we asked, “What’s your favorite memory of traveling together?” Dicey said, “I travel with her more than anyone in life.” And she loves acting stupid and messing with the hotel staff with each other. And after the show, they walk to the hotel with a mic, and they talk loudly. Dicey’s favorite location was Milwaukee and Phoenix. And she loved the cheese curds and the shows. And then in Chicago, they found an Airbnb. They were sleeping on cots, and Punkie kept falling out of the cot. And they were staying in Candyman’s neighborhood, which is scary. And then Punkie said, “I don’t have a favorite memory of traveling with Dicey. She loses everything. Her purse. Her bag.” And then she said, “Well, my most memorable moment was Chicago. She left her purse at the grocery store in the produce department, and it was conveniently gone when we had to pay the bill when we were eating. It was missing for hours, and they went back and found it underneath a melon.”
Nicole [00:40:53] Dicey’s just nodding her head. “Yes, that was me.”
Sasheer [00:40:58] So you both mentioned Chicago, so that matches up.
Nicole [00:41:03] Yes. Congrats! We asked, “What’s your favorite thing about your friend?” Dicey said Dicey’s favorite thing about Punkie is her fearlessness. “Just growing up gay and not being accepted by her family. Also, her savvy business views. She handles her business.” Punkie said, “I don’t know!” She knows when to pull Punkie away. Punkie gets in trouble, and Dicey knows when to be an adult when they’re on the road. Dicey’s good at facilitating how she does her business. And Punkie wants to be everyone’s friend, and Dicey’s like, “No. This can’t be.”
Dicey [00:41:44] That’s true.
Punkie [00:41:45] Dicey takes care of things on the road. She takes care of everything. Like, I’ll get you where you need to go. I’ll make sure you don’t lose your stuff. But as far as, like, the business, she takes care of all of it.
Sasheer [00:41:58] It’s a symbiotic relationship.
Nicole [00:42:01] A yin and a yang, if you will.
Sasheer [00:42:06] We asked, “What’s your friend’s favorite thing about you?” Dicey said that “I’m loyal” and she doesn’t take anything personally–likes that they can cuss at each other all day and they don’t give a fuck. And they don’t fuck with the same people. And then Punkie said that she is fun. She treats everyone very hospitable. She makes sure that her people are taken care of and comfortable. Punkie is the leader, so she helps navigate Dicey. Dicey is dumb and she gets lost in the airport. So, she helps her navigate. But it is a great give and take because Dicey knows when to pull Punkie away. Dicey is very good at pulling Punkie away from the ledge.
Nicole [00:42:56] We asked, “What’s something you do that drives your friend crazy?” Dicey said she loses things a lot and that she’s very smart but very stupid all at the same time. Very irresponsible. Loses things in every city they go to. She’s clumsy. She runs into trees. Punkie said she has anger problems–always talking mad shit–never knows when to keep her mouth closed. Also, she has OCD and was mad that Dicey once left three pebbles of pink Himalayan salt. And when Punkie comes to her house, she washes her hands, she Lysols her phone. If you ride on the train, you can’t sit on the couch. No train ass on her couch!
Punkie [00:43:38] Did you take that salt out the cabinet, or is it still there?
Dicey [00:43:41] It is on the counter now.
Punkie [00:43:46] Dicey, if I come back up in there on Sunday…
Nicole [00:43:48] Dicey, throw it away.
Sasheer [00:43:56] Just throw it away. Get it out of there.
Dicey [00:44:03] There’s some left in there.
Punkie [00:44:08] I told her that I had it for a year. Then she’s gonna tell me, “Well, if you had it for a year, it was almost done anyway.” I’m like, “No! No. No.” That lets you know how much I barely use salt if it’s been in there for a year. And now all of a sudden, it’s only three pebbles?
Dicey [00:44:30] Whatever.
Sasheer [00:44:35] All right. We asked, “What’s something your friend does that drives you crazy?” Dicey says, Punkie eating onions. She eats onions on everything, and her breath is smelling like onions all the time. Punkie is from New Orleans, so garlic and onion is all in the food. She puts onions in everything. And every onion harvest, Dicey’s mom will bring onions from the garden. And she brings onions to Punkie. And we asked, “Did you tell Punky how you felt?” And she said, “She knows.” And then Punkie said, “She’s always losing things.” Also, she is vegetarian, and she hates that. The other day she was fixing a, quote unquote, “sandwich,” and she cussed her out. She said, “Don’t use words that meat eaters use. You’re vegetarian. Don’t call it a sandwich if it’s not meat.”
Punkie [00:45:30] You should have saw her up in the kitchen, girl.
Dicey [00:45:32] It was delicious.
Punkie [00:45:32] Cucumbers on this bread about to be good? Who in the hell thought cucumbers and bread was a good combination? Hell no.
Nicole [00:45:46] We asked which of you would do better on Survivor. Dicey said, “Definitely me. I would do better on the show. Punkie’s so Prissy and OCD. She doesn’t touch things from outside. When she enters the house, she’s gotta shower.” And Dicey grew up in the country so she could handle it. And Punkie was like, “Me! You can’t survive when you lose things and have no sense of direction.” She lost her phone when she was about to get on stage the other day. She left it in the bathroom. She put it down. She said, “I’m not going to lose my phone today.” And then she lost it anyway.
Punkie [00:46:23] Not to mention when she lost her phone in Vegas and told a man the man stole her phone. “I know you stole my phone. You stole my phone. I know. I left it right here. I left it right here”
Dicey [00:46:34] He looked guilty.
Punkie [00:46:40] Girl, you need to say that to the woman in the mirror because it was all you.
Sasheer [00:46:47] Well, I do want to backtrack for a minute. I do want to ask, Punkie, how many onions do you eat, like, in a week?
Punkie [00:46:55] I don’t know. I probably eat an onion a day.
Nicole [00:46:59] An onion a day?
Sasheer [00:47:00] One whole onion a day?
Punkie [00:47:03] Well, it depends. It could be two because sometimes I’ll put a whole onion. Once I read that onion was good for your heart–I don’t know–I just was like…
Sasheer [00:47:12] Oh. There’s also vitamins.
Punkie [00:47:16] Well, also, I read something, and I just ran with it, all right? I chopped my onion up, and I put it in my food, my spaghetti sauce, my shrimp pasta, jambalaya–whatever I’m cooking, I always do the whole onion. And sometimes, as a midnight snack, I throw some onions in the pot and sauté them and eat them as sautéed onion rings with some ketchup.
Sasheer [00:47:42] Whoa.
Punkie [00:47:47] I love them. And the taste of them are really, really good, too. I mean, my breath? Uch.
Sasheer [00:47:57] But that heart?
Nicole [00:47:58] That heart is strong.
Punkie [00:48:07] You just told me the other day, “Punkie, you’re so cool. You’re so hospitable. When people tell you they don’t like you, I just don’t understand… People just got to get to know you, Punkie, because you’re so dope.”
Dicey [00:48:17] I never said that. You are lying.
Punkie [00:48:23] Dicey.
Dicey [00:48:23] I never said any such thing.
Punkie [00:48:23] And then the other day, I told you how smart… I had my suit, and I didn’t have my suit bag. And you had this crazy bag, and I put my suit in it. And I was like, “Dicey, I knew you was good for something.” One thing about Dicey–she might not have a navigation system on it all the time and she might lose things–but I’m telling you, she comes through in a clutch. And that’s like a basketball player. You can miss every shot in the game. You hit that final three at that buzzer and you take the championship–that’s coming through in the clutch. Let’s go.
Sasheer [00:49:00] Aw. That’s nice.
Nicole [00:49:01] I like that.
Punkie [00:49:05] Comes through in the clutch… sometimes.
Nicole [00:49:09] Sometimes!”
Sasheer [00:49:13] All right. Last question. We asked both of you, “Who would do better on the TV show–?” Wait, did we already do this, or no?
Dicey [00:49:20] Yeah. Y’all did that one.
Nicole [00:49:21] We did Survivor.
Sasheer [00:49:21] We did do that. Oh, sorry. I had to scroll down. The last actual question is: What do you hope you’re both doing in 20 years? Dicey said, “I hope we’re like the Golden Girls. I hope we have wicker furniture, and we’re vacationing with our kids. I hope that we are still cussing each other out and that we’ll even be here 20 years from now. I hope this rock star lifestyle of ours doesn’t wear us down.” And then Punkie said two things. “One, I hope we are still getting this money, and I hope that we are still on the road as long as we both have breath in our body. I hope that our charity supporting other comics is up and running and still going. I hope that we’re both doing our own shows, we’re both headlining, and we’re both vacationing together. And it’s a beautiful relationship where the love comes from–verbal abuse.”
Dicey [00:50:14] We both want to vacation together forever. Look at that.
Punkie [00:50:20] Yeah! I don’t lie! I feel like it should come to a point where we both running hours. Or, you know, I think two hours is a long time for an audience to sit down. But if we both could start running, like, 40 minutes, 35 minutes apiece and, like, really, really do our Childish and Petty Tour equally, I think that’ll be… You know what I’m saying? I think eventually we should get into that and start doing it.
Dicey [00:50:47] I love that.
Nicole [00:50:48] I like it, too. Honestly, you guys are friends. You can continue–
Sasheer [00:50:56] Yes. You passed the test?
Punkie [00:50:59] Our answers was different, but it was the same.
Sasheer [00:51:03] Yes. Same energy.
Punkie [00:51:04] Yeah, it’s on some weird stuff.
Sasheer [00:51:07] Yeah. I love your dynamic together. And can you tell me about your podcast, Love Thang?
Punkie [00:51:13] So the way the podcast came about is my managers be like, “You talk. You can talk.” I love to talk, obviously. I’ll talk your head off. I’ll go past time. So, they’re like, “You know, you should do a podcast.” I’m like, “All right. I’m gonna talk about love since I was married–in a relationship for 20 years.” I did it all wrong, so of course I could tell somebody how to do it right. So, they say, “Type something up.” So Dicey is very good at translating how I feel. You know, if I go into a meeting, I need Dicey to come, too, because I will say something. And then the people will be looking at me like… And Dicey is going to say, “Well, what she means is…” So, I sent out a document, and I was like, “Bitch, I need you to fix this. Make it make sense to the people.” And she did it. She put together a whole deck–sent it in. It just got started like that. So, we on that; we talk about love. And Dicey also… What, 15, 20 years of relationships? So, we both did it the wrong way. So, we feel like we could tell people a lot. We might not be able to tell you what to do right. But we can tell you a whole lot about what you would do wrong and which way not to go.
Sasheer [00:52:19] Yeah. That’s very smart.
Punkie [00:52:19] So sometimes you ain’t gotta know what you want. Sometimes you just gotta know what you don’t want to get to what you do want. And it will work like that. It will work either way.
Dicey [00:52:28] And I will say that on this podcast, people thought that Punkie was going to be, like, the most ignorant bitch… But it turns out that I am!
Punkie [00:52:39] People are like, “Hey, wait! Punkie is the more reasonable one!” And so, I’ve been telling you guys. I’ve been telling you… It’s all going to come out. And I’m the one that makes the most sense. It’s all gonna come out!
Dicey [00:52:59] It’s only because you’re in a happy relationship right now. That’s the only reason why I seem like the one that’s not that sensible because if this was a couple of years ago, she would definitely be the ignorant one on this ship.
Punkie [00:53:13] You know what? I’m about to go ruin my relationship so I could be the ignorant bitch.
Sasheer [00:53:17] But I don’t think it’s worth it.
Nicole [00:53:20] No, it’s not worth it! Don’t do it!
Sasheer [00:53:22] Don’t do it!
Punkie [00:53:25] Time to be a dog.
Sasheer [00:53:29] I also heard that you guys married somebody at one of your shows.
Punkie [00:53:34] Yeah, that was super, super fun. We went out to Vegas for Heartbeat Weekend. And Dicey just was like, “If we’re going to Vegas, why don’t we make the podcast and you an officiant? So why don’t you marry somebody?” She’s like, “Let’s just do it.” So, we pitched it to the producers, and it was like, “We love it. We love it. It’s fricking Vegas. Let’s go. We’ll hook it up.” So, we found two people to marry. They came out. They were actually two of our great comedic friends who actually, coincidentally got engaged, like, two or three days before the–
Sasheer [00:54:08] Oh, wow.
Dicey [00:54:09] A couple weeks before.
Punkie [00:54:12] And they was like, “Can y’all marry us?” And they came out. And it was just so fun. It was so fun.
Sasheer [00:54:19] Aww.
Nicole [00:54:19] That does sound fun. I love that.
Dicey [00:54:22] So much that our producers are like, “Punkie needs to marry a couple once a month.”
Sasheer [00:54:27] That’s a lot of pressure.
Punkie [00:54:29] But we like to do it. Dicey, you need to get certified, so we could both do it.
Dicey [00:54:35] I do, because if your dumb ass can pass the test, I for sure can pass it.
Punkie [00:54:42] Dicey, that was very, very mean now. Queen…. Don’t do that, queen.
Dicey [00:54:55] Don’t start. Do not start. Don’t start with that shit.
Punkie [00:55:00] I’m gonna text you “Grand rising” tomorrow and ruin your whole day.
Dicey [00:55:08] When we’re nice to each other it ruins our entire day. If I call her “queen,” she gets so mad. Oh my God. “Grand rising,” my ass, bitch. Whatever.
Sasheer [00:55:22] Well, thank you so much for doing that.
Punkie [00:55:26] No, man. Like, seriously, thank y’all because everybody that’s, like, opening the podcast doors us we really appreciate it. You know, we just getting started. So, we listen to you all, and we learn from y’all. So, we appreciate the format. Everybody’s just so chill on podcasts. So, it’s kind of been helping me to kind of relax a little bit more and kind of take the tension off your back because it’s, like, you just really sitting up there, just being yourself. And people that love you are gonna love you, you know what I’m saying? So just let it flow.
Sasheer [00:55:57] Yeah!
Dicey [00:55:58] I’ve been a fan of both of y’all for a long time. I appreciate all that’s on here, and I just love to see us doing our own things. And I can’t wait to see what both of y’all have, you know, in the future. I love both y’all so much. Been following y’all for years, though.
Nicole [00:56:16] Oh, thank you.
Sasheer [00:56:18] That’s very sweet. Thank you. Well, you two are hilarious.
Nicole [00:56:21] Yeah. You two are so funny together. When you come to LA, I’m going to go to one of your shows. This sounds like fun. And I want to see Dicey run into a tree.
Punkie [00:56:32] Good thing we caught it on tape.
Nicole [00:56:40] You filmed her running into a tree?
Punkie [00:56:44] I’m starting a documentary. So, the documentary is going to be, like… You know how people do the comedy specials, and they might have…? Especially, like, Kevin Hart–he’ll do, like, a 20-minute movie or a 20-minute documentary meeting his family. Well, we want to do, like, four to five episodes of lead-in to the special. But it’s going to be all raw, real material. Nothing is scripted. Everything is you get it how it happens. There ain’t going to be no setups–no nothing. And it’s all a bumpy part of the road, too. It’s not going to always be the good stuff. They got a part on there where we are both just, like, crying. They got parts on there where we bombing. They got parts on there where we dealing with hecklers. We want to put all the filthy, dirty, raw stuff on there just as much as the good, so people can see it all.
Dicey [00:57:31] One of my friends, Audrey, who’s now one of our best friends–she’s, like, in our friend group now–she’s an amazing TV producer, and she’s been following us around for almost two years now. And she comes to every city with us. She starts taping us from when we wake up in the morning until we go to bed at night. Like, she has literally three iPhones and two cameras, and she’s, like, taping us the entire time–everywhere we go.
Sasheer [00:58:04] Oh man. Hilarious content.
Punkie [00:58:05] So for the past almost two years, everything we do is documented. So, of course we don’t have to go through with that because I know they got some shit on that. I’m naked all the time. I mean…
Sasheer [00:58:21] Yeah, don’t compromise yourself.
Punkie [00:58:23] But I’m not worried about that. I get naked in front of people for a living. Sasheer, you know that already. But it’s just that…
Sasheer [00:58:30] I don’t get naked in front of people.
Punkie [00:58:31] Well, not anymore! You know what I’m saying?
Nicole [00:58:33] Quick changes.
Punkie [00:58:35] Yeah.
Sasheer [00:58:35] Oh, I see. I see.
Punkie [00:58:39] She’s like, “You don’t know my life!”
Nicole [00:58:40] “I don’t do that. What?”
Sasheer [00:58:41] “I don’t get naked. Don’t tell people that.”
Nicole [00:58:44] Punkie’s like, “Come on! You’re not swinging your titties for a living? That’s what I’m doing!”
Sasheer [00:58:44] “I’m on OnlyFans now.” I’m like, “I don’t have that.”
Punkie [00:58:52] Oh, you know…
Sasheer [00:58:53] Well, this has been very, very fun. Everybody, listen to Love Thang with Punkie and Dicey. And their tour–Childish and Petty–go see them. Thank you so much for doing this. This was a blast.
Punkie [00:59:04] Thank you guys so much. And we appreciate y’all. And thank you. It was a pleasure.
Nicole [00:59:10] Sorry about it. We did not answer questions today. But if you want questions answered at a later date, you can email nicoleandsasheer@gmail.com or call, text, send a voice note–whatever you want–a voicemail. 424-645-7003.
Sasheer [00:59:30] We also have merch at podswag.com/bestfriends.
Nicole [00:59:34] If you’re into literature, we have transcripts for our new episodes. Check them out on our show page at earwolf.com.
Sasheer [00:59:42] Lastly, don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe. That is the easiest way to support this show!
Nicole [00:59:46] Well, bye-bye.
Sasheer [00:59:48] Bye-bye!
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