EP. 358 — Q: The Winged Serpent LIVE!

[00:00:00] Paul Scheer: In the immortal words of the Wu Tang Clan, Protect ya neck! Little did we know they were talking about Quetzalcoatl. We saw Q, the Winged Serpent, So you know what that means?

[00:00:27] Music: [HDTGM intro Song]

[00:01:19] Paul Scheer: Hello people of Earth! And hello people of Los Angeles! We are live at Largo, our L. A. home, talking about Q the Winged Serpent. The year, 1982. And what is this movie about? A lot. It’s about two detectives who work homicide and robbery,

[00:01:52] who are trying to find out the truth. Who this killer is who’s doing some pretty evil shit, but meanwhile, it’s also about a petty thief. A driver if you will, who gets caught up in a robbery gone wrong. Oh, yeah And the big thing is there’s a giant fucking flying lizard in New York that are eating people’s heads right off That’s about all the things that you need to know. Oh and I’ll tell you this much, this movie is worth it.

[00:02:25] In every single way. David Carradine, Richard Roundtree. Oh, the list goes on and on. A plus acting. Academy Award winning performances here. As the title of the movie says, you won’t even have time to scream. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to break down this entire movie for you. But first, let me introduce my co host.

[00:02:48] Please welcome Jason Mantzoukas!

[00:02:57] Jason Mantzoukas: What’s up, jerks? That’s right. That’s right. Here we go. Oh boy. Wow. I wish they could all be this good. I wish I could spend every afternoon before a show just basking in the glory of a movie like Q the winged. Oh, I would say Q the winged.

[00:03:22] Paul Scheer: Got it.

[00:03:23] Jason Mantzoukas: I would, but I don’t know.

[00:03:25] Paul Scheer: Well, you know, look, they don’t say it in the film.

[00:03:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, they don’t. They don’t, and I’m, and it was, like, it, yeah, we’ll get into it.

[00:03:32] Paul Scheer: I wouldn’t even know if I would call him a serpent.

[00:03:35] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, oh no, this is a dinosaur. This movie, let me be clear, this movie has a dinosaur in it, but it is much more focused on interrogating the absolutely unhinged performance by Michael Moriarty, who is stone cold out of his mind, from top to bottom, T to B, nuts. Not only that, sounds just like Bill Burr the whole time.

[00:04:05] Paul Scheer: That’s it! That. So, right before we came here Uh, right before he came here, I was, I was like, I know that voice. What is that voice? And I couldn’t put it.

[00:04:14] Jason Mantzoukas: It’s Bill Burr the whole time.

[00:04:15] Paul Scheer: You’re right. You’re right.

[00:04:17] Jason Mantzoukas: I know it because I walked away and I wasn’t watching it, but I was listening to it for a minute. I was like, Oh shit, that’s Bill Burr. So much so that I looked up. Is it possible they’re from the same place? No.

[00:04:28] Paul Scheer: Wow. Well we’ll play you a clip of Michael Moriarty who does give an A plus performance in this film. But, before we do, let’s bring out my other co hosts. Please welcome June Diane Raphael!

[00:04:54] How are you June?

[00:04:56] June Diane Raphael: I’m okay.

[00:05:00] Paul Scheer: Well, I’m glad to hear that.

[00:05:01] June Diane Raphael: I’m happy to be here. I am so happy to be here. I’m so happy to be here.

[00:05:06] Paul Scheer: Well, another tagline of Q is, Q is here, so you’re here, Q is here.

[00:05:12] June Diane Raphael: By the way, I, when you first played the trailer, I thought, oh no, I didn’t watch a movie called Q. I watched the wrong movie.

[00:05:21] I didn’t. I watched this movie. I watched this movie, but I never heard him referred to as Q.

[00:05:27] Jason Mantzoukas: No, of course not. Oh, they don’t.

[00:05:29] June Diane Raphael: They don’t ever call him Q.

[00:05:31] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah, this is the, I feel like this probably was made under the title of the name of the winged.

[00:05:37] Paul Scheer: Quetzalcoatl.

[00:05:38] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, the winged serpent.

[00:05:40] Paul Scheer: I think it was probably Quetzalcoatl, and then they were like, You can’t release a movie called Quetzalcoatl.

[00:05:43] Jason Mantzoukas: How about Q The winged serpent?

[00:05:46] June Diane Raphael: One of the wildest part, I mean, we’re going to get into it, but one of the wildest parts of this movie is the fact that we don’t meet the man responsible for it all until the last four minutes, maybe three.

[00:06:00] Paul Scheer: And is he, he dispatched. I have never seen a more brutal killing.

[00:06:09] June Diane Raphael: I just couldn’t understand why. Arguably, he has the most interesting story.

[00:06:16] Jason Mantzoukas: We should be obsessed with him. Obsessed with him! We should be obsessed with him. We need a monologue. We need something. And everything he’s up to. And instead, with a movie, he is, the movie is following a two bit crook.

[00:06:28] June Diane Raphael: Yes.

[00:06:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Who has no, no information on Q the Winged Serpent except for pure happenstance.

[00:06:34] June Diane Raphael: Yep.

[00:06:35] Paul Scheer: I mean, This movie is all over the place, but Jason, I wanted to respect you and ask how was it to watch a movie all about eggs?

[00:06:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Ugh. Boy, oh boy. I’ll be honest. I didn’t like it at all.

[00:06:50] I was like.

[00:06:51] Paul Scheer: Jason might be allergic to this movie.

[00:06:52] Jason Mantzoukas: I had I did get hives. I did break out into hives during that section where he goes, Ooh, that’s a big omelet. I, I, I absolutely am certain 90 percent of this movie was improvised.

[00:07:04] June Diane Raphael: Uh, absolutely.

[00:07:05] Jason Mantzoukas: When David, when David Carradine said, I’m gonna take my birth control, I was like, what, what is that line? What’s that mean?

[00:07:13] Paul Scheer: I wrote that down.

[00:07:14] Jason Mantzoukas: What’s that mean?

[00:07:15] Paul Scheer: I wrote that down too and I was like, all this is, is a slight insight on how David Carradine flirts and fucks.

[00:07:23] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes.

[00:07:24] Paul Scheer: And I didn’t like it.

[00:07:26] June Diane Raphael: What does that mean?

[00:07:26] Jason Mantzoukas: What does it mean?

[00:07:28] June Diane Raphael: What?

[00:07:29] Jason Mantzoukas: I’m hung up on it.

[00:07:30] June Diane Raphael: What does it mean?

[00:07:31] Jason Mantzoukas: I’m going to take my birth control pill. I’m sorry. I wrote it down.

[00:07:38] June Diane Raphael: At one point I was like, did he take Viagra? And is that, that sort of the funny joke he’s making?

[00:07:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Does he think this is how the pill works? The guy takes it?

[00:07:47] June Diane Raphael: I don’t know!

[00:07:49] Paul Scheer: I think he was just being. Like, I think sometimes when you get to be very famous, people laugh at everything that you do, and then you don’t realize, like, what’s funny or what’s not. And he’s like, what? I said, there’s plenty of women, and they thought it was hilarious.

[00:08:01] Jason Mantzoukas: I do think I do think because we would have people come on the league who were like at bigger actors who weren’t comfortable with improvisation. And then they would get excited to do improv with us, and then they would say insane shit. Yeah, that had the cadence of a joke something like I’m gonna go take my birth control pill, flippantly said as you leave the table, and it’s like you know.

[00:08:26] Paul Scheer: And then, but no one, no.

[00:08:29] June Diane Raphael: He’s not on camera for that line.

[00:08:31] Jason Mantzoukas: It’s a line.. It’s an ADR.

[00:08:33] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. So that’s what I, again, I know the filmmakers thought about it. I know that they sat, they slept on it. They, they watched many cuts and thought that’s what this moment needs.

[00:08:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, what they were, I feel like what they were like was, you know what? Because of the edit now, there’s a bit of like a.

[00:08:51] June Diane Raphael: Dead air. We need to cover this moment.

[00:08:54] Jason Mantzoukas: We need a button for this scene now. And David Caron, he’s like, I got just the thing, man. Roll the tape. Roll the tape. I’ll drop it right in. I’m going to go take my birth control pill. All right. I’ll see you guys later. Wait, what?

[00:09:05] Paul Scheer: But doesn’t he also come back in and then just like nuzzle her?

[00:09:09] June Diane Raphael: He does.

[00:09:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah.

[00:09:10] Paul Scheer: And so it wasn’t even the button. It’s a sort of like a mid scene.

[00:09:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Everything.

[00:09:13] June Diane Raphael: They ADR’d it because nothing’s happening. He just leaves frame and then comes back and so they yeah they snuck that line in but why?

[00:09:22] Jason Mantzoukas: There’s so many instances where I feel like he’s doing shit like that. Where he’s not giving them opportunities to not use it. Like when he’s drawing the picture of the bird in the board meeting, didn’t get any coverage where he’s not drawing the bird. He made them use it.

[00:09:43] June Diane Raphael: And you know what? I have worked with actors who do that. And I always, I always tip my hat. I always tip my hat.

[00:09:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Unreal move. I was like, this is a insane move.

[00:09:53] June Diane Raphael: To handicap a film that way. It is like a terrorist negotiating.

[00:09:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, there’s no lines for this scene? Okay, I’ll do, I’ll just do this.

[00:10:01] Paul Scheer: But here, here is the joke of it. His drawing looks better than the actual winged serpent.

[00:10:09] June Diane Raphael: Yeah. What our eyes have seen.

[00:10:11] Paul Scheer: Yes. We have seen this claymation fucking dinosaur. I mean, this movie is ripped off Godzilla 19, uh, whatever it was with Matthew Broderick, I mean, it’s the same plot, but this is just a dinosaur movie and he drew I would say a pretty fair representation of Q.

[00:10:27] June Diane Raphael: You know what’s interesting about the Q the winged serpent?

[00:10:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Boy would I love it if because of this episode Q the winged serpent became the most searched for Q in existence.

[00:10:37] Paul Scheer: Well I felt very bad our producer Molly said that now her internet is fucked because all she was doing was typing in Q.

[00:10:45] June Diane Raphael: Well here’s the interesting thing though.

[00:10:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Q drains the swamp.

[00:10:49] June Diane Raphael: The interesting thing about Q.

[00:10:54] Paul Scheer: The Q, the winged serpent from the swamp.

[00:10:57] June Diane Raphael: Q only, I think, attacks, um, when people are on high rises or hanging off of them. Like, I don’t know why Q the winged serpent can’t swoop down to ground level and pick someone up.

[00:11:14] Paul Scheer: Because he’s trying to be invisible.

[00:11:15] June Diane Raphael: Wait, what?

[00:11:17] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:11:17] June Diane Raphael: Oh, no. I didn’t. No. First of all, I don’t believe that. I know the, they, the characters give us that justification that Q is trying to stay within the sun’s rays perfectly so that people can’t see him. But other people can.

[00:11:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh! There’s Q, anybody, anybody, anybody Yeah, give it up. Anybody above floor 30 can see Q the Winged Serpent, like, right there. I mean, like, you can see anything in the city alleyway.

[00:11:49] Paul Scheer: That’s the indictment of this movie. Yes, we work in the high rises, but we don’t pay attention. Look right outside our window.

[00:11:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow, wow, wow.

[00:11:56] Paul Scheer: We’re on the phone.

[00:11:58] June Diane Raphael: Eat the rich.

[00:11:59] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.

[00:12:00] Paul Scheer: I mean, this is it.

[00:12:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Thank God, thank God Al Qaeda didn’t get, didn’t get hold of Q the Winged Serpent.

[00:12:07] Paul Scheer: I mean, the opening, the opening scene of this movie is one of my favorite scenes of all time. It’s a window washer who is sexually harassing a woman who I guess works in shoe manufacturing. I don’t know.

[00:12:29] June Diane Raphael: I love, I wish the whole movie was about her and her, her job in fashion.

[00:12:34] Paul Scheer: And the way that he’s like, hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, gorgeous. Cheers. And she’s like, Oh, he’s cleaning the window again. As if he like, by the way.

[00:12:44] Jason Mantzoukas: You love me. You love me. And she’s like, Oh, this fucking creep. It’s like, it’s like a, it’s like a, it’s like the opening of Grease, you know, just bouncing back and forth.

[00:12:57] June Diane Raphael: But why are those windows like completely soundproof? They are both. They’re soundproof.

[00:13:02] Jason Mantzoukas: I think they are experiencing.

[00:13:04] June Diane Raphael: Because, because you would be able to hear

[00:13:07] something it would be muted, but, she can hear the squeaking, but it seems like they can’t hear each other speak.

[00:13:17] Paul Scheer: Well because she’s ignoring him like a normal sane human being. She’s like, Oh, this guy, he’s still washing the windows. You’re like, hi. And it seems like he’s just lowering to her floor and the amount of soap he’s put on there.

[00:13:32] He’s never making any headway. It’s just more and more soap. He’s never. He’s never doing the other side of the squeegee. It’s just the soapy side.

[00:13:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, today’s his job review and Q the winged serpent says you’re fired because his head gets chomped.

[00:13:49] Paul Scheer: Now, fun fact.

[00:13:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[00:13:51] Paul Scheer: Real empire state building squeegee man.

[00:13:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, oh wow.

[00:13:56] June Diane Raphael: Wow.

[00:13:57] Jason Mantzoukas: They got a real guy.

[00:13:57] Paul Scheer: They got a real guy to act out that part. Uh, and they killed him.

[00:14:01] Jason Mantzoukas: I would love it if you were like they hired an actor, but he just couldn’t do it correctly. They needed the authenticity of that guy.

[00:14:08] Paul Scheer: Well, they definitely had, I mean, look, there’s something about this movie that I found fascinating, which was they had access to a lot of places I’ve never seen in New York, mainly a lot of these of top of building. Like this is an outdoor spaces. I live in New York for a long time. No one ever invited me.

[00:14:26] June Diane Raphael: Never seen a pool.

[00:14:26] Jason Mantzoukas: This, this movie has access to, and shows us how to get to more rooftops in midtown Manhattan that I was ever on in 13 years of living there.

[00:14:36] Paul Scheer: It was not an option. Like the rooftops I was on.

[00:14:39] June Diane Raphael: There was no door that opened up into a rooftop.

[00:14:41] Paul Scheer: Oh yeah.

[00:14:41] Jason Mantzoukas: I don’t think I ever climbed a ladder on floor 86 in New York city in my life.

[00:14:47] Paul Scheer: Now, here’s the thing that pissed me off about this movie. The first killing is this squeegee man who gets his head. And by the way, if you’re a bird, take the whole body. The head is not going to be fulfilling enough.

[00:14:59] That’s like, that’s like a M& M.

[00:15:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Here’s the thing. If he’s doing this, right? I, and listen, Q is a winged serpent and I’m certain and is seemingly immortal. I’m not sure, but to have the, to have the ability to swoop in, like having that much, uh, momentum, that much momentum, that much weight to come in by just his head off, make no impression on the building.

[00:15:25] No, she doesn’t see there’s no shadow cast on her. She sees nothing. It’s just, yeah, it is. So. It’s so delicate. It is so delicate. Q the Winged Serpent isn’t interested in eating your whole body? Yeah.

[00:15:39] June Diane Raphael: Although there are times where he’ll, he’ll just pick a motherfucker up. Yeah. Fly away.

[00:15:44] Paul Scheer: I was so excited when he finally grabbed somebody in his claw, I’m like, you got the claws, use them.

[00:15:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, it’s the guy in the pool. It’s the guy in the pool I think is the first claw grab.

[00:15:54] Paul Scheer: Well, I will say this. So, uh, These detectives are investigating a murder at the Empire State Building. Now, what’s the other main building? The one that looks identical to the Empire State. I was like, is this, I was like, this is not the Empire State.

[00:16:08] It’s the Chrysler building. But it’s like, you can’t have an inciting incident at the building that looks just like the other building.

[00:16:15] Jason Mantzoukas: You can’t have two things like 10 blocks away from each other like this. This is too much.

[00:16:19] Paul Scheer: I just thought like visually, I was so confused. Like, Oh wait, Cause he goes, I gotta go see my lawyer. Then he ran in. I think they showed the exterior of the empire state building, but then he’s in the.

[00:16:31] Jason Mantzoukas: I think the whole movie also is stolen. You don’t have permits to be on anything. I think, I think most of the shots were. Blood is dripping on people, real people, real shots.

[00:16:43] Paul Scheer: Okay, can I, can I, can I give you Well, I mean, the first scene when Richard Roundtree and David Carradine are out, um, talking about what they just saw, the man with the, the head being bitten off, they have like, they’ve roped off the, the, the bystanders, who are just watching two actors act in a movie.

[00:17:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[00:17:02] Paul Scheer: Because the, the, the ambulance is pulled away and they’re just like, I wonder what they’re saying, what are they talking about? They’re staring at them and smiling, like, look at this, it’s a movie, it’s a movie.

[00:17:13] Jason Mantzoukas: Hey, Kung fu, hey, Kung Fu, hey!

[00:17:16] June Diane Raphael: But the other issue I had with that ambulance, like, hurrying away. Like, that man is so, that man has no head. Okay, that man has no head and they don’t know where the head is. And they, first of all, they wheel him out and put him in there and the sirens go on. It’s like, what are you?

[00:17:34] Jason Mantzoukas: What are you doing? Looking for the head.

[00:17:37] June Diane Raphael: And then David Carradine says at one point, Well, I mean, it’s going to show up somewhere. As though they always do.

[00:17:44] Paul Scheer: I just want to, I want to underline it, June. Even if they did have the head. That ambience has no reason to run away. No one’s getting their head reattached. Once that’s off, you’re done.

[00:17:54] Jason Mantzoukas: I would have loved it if there was a tag at the very end of that scene where the ambulance is pulling away and the woman is like, I did always love him. Like you just get a little insight to like, it would have been love.

[00:18:07] June Diane Raphael: One thing I really didn’t ever get to the bottom of, you know, our our Our gentleman at the very end, again, we saw the last three minutes of the movie, the man who caused all of this, um, he has convinced a number of people to.

[00:18:22] Paul Scheer: Men.

[00:18:23] June Diane Raphael: A number of men to sell, to sacrifice their bodies. But by the way, they’re awake for their own skinning. Yes. Okay.

[00:18:33] Paul Scheer: The way that they skin.

[00:18:35] June Diane Raphael: Oh, it’s so upsetting.

[00:18:35] Paul Scheer: Can I show a clip of it?

[00:18:36] June Diane Raphael: No, no, no.

[00:18:38] Jason Mantzoukas: I would, I would love it if you did.

[00:18:40] June Diane Raphael: We’ve been through too much. We’ve been through too much.

[00:18:42] Jason Mantzoukas: I would love it if you did.

[00:18:43] Paul Scheer: When we first meet. The first skinned person.

[00:18:49] Jason Mantzoukas: Let’s not use meat.

[00:18:50] Paul Scheer: Okay, yes. When we are first introduced to the first skinned person, they’re on white bedding, there’s no blood anywhere in the room, and every piece of skin is.

[00:19:03] June Diane Raphael: Okay, alright. It’s enough. But It’s enough, Paul.

[00:19:08] Paul Scheer: Okay.

[00:19:09] June Diane Raphael: But I I I was fascinated by the people who wanted to do, who are those people?

[00:19:17] Paul Scheer: This guy.

[00:19:18] June Diane Raphael: And why?

[00:19:19] Paul Scheer: This man, who gets on the table and says, it’s cold. Don’t worry, you’ll get heated up in a second when I start peeling your flesh off your body.

[00:19:29] Jason Mantzoukas: Now normally, a movie like this would have like two, like, opposing forces, right? The people who are trying to bring about change. Q the winged serpent, their god, right?

[00:19:40] Yeah. Who’s gonna, whatever, whatever. And the person who realizes this plan, and is like, I must stop them from doing this. I must stop the Nazis from opening the Ark of the Covenant, or whatever, right?

[00:19:51] Paul Scheer: Which came out the same year as this movie.

[00:19:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Insane. But in this movie, it’s We are following none of the people that are involved with the interesting thing that’s happening. So, so those people are off maybe making a better movie somewhere.

[00:20:06] June Diane Raphael: Well, it’s true because what I kept on wondering about the gentleman who is, who was making all this happen is like, what an interesting position he’s in where he doesn’t have to get skinned. He just gets to see his God alive and well, and other people have to sacrifice themselves.

[00:20:23] Jason Mantzoukas: What about the guy that makes those hats? Makes the Q the wing of serpent hat.

[00:20:27] June Diane Raphael: I mean, absolutely.

[00:20:28] Paul Scheer: Yeah. He is wearing a big head, big head piece.

[00:20:30] Jason Mantzoukas: I also wanna, I wanna know about that. Wait a minute. Sorry. Yeah. I also wanna know why the altar for the sacrifices is in the storage room of like somebody’s lawyer’s office. Like the altar. That’s the stone altar is in a room covered in shelves and document boxes.

[00:20:47] June Diane Raphael: And I also wanted to know where was his lawyer? Yeah. Why wasn’t he working?

[00:20:53] Paul Scheer: Well his lawyer did eventually come in.

[00:20:55] June Diane Raphael: At the very end, with no explanation of where he was.

[00:20:59] Paul Scheer: Well, sometimes he takes a lunch break. Um, you know, he’s a successful lawyer. The, the idea that these cops, these cops are not good cops. And I want to make sure that I’m on record Because when they do find that first flayed cop person. They’re like, Oh, gross, gross. Uh, and then one of the cops just picks up a pillow and was like, ugh, throws it on the body. AKA the evidence.

[00:21:25] June Diane Raphael: Yes. You’re right, Paul. And notice that too. And it’s not. For those of you who haven’t seen the movie, it’s not like, Oh, I’m gonna cover their face for their own dignity. It is not respect.

[00:21:36] Paul Scheer: It’s the way that you throw a pillow at someone like, Oh, you scared me, you son of a bitch. It’s like that.

[00:21:42] Jason Mantzoukas: If you’re playing How Did This Get Made Bingo, that was a pellow. That was a full throated pillow.

[00:21:49] Paul Scheer: Um, I was, how do you pronounce a pellow?

[00:21:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[00:21:52] June Diane Raphael: We’re both from Long Island. I, that we both say that word. It’s, it’s hard, you know.

[00:21:56] Jason Mantzoukas: The police are, I agree very bad in this, so much so that when they find the guys. He’s actively performing the, uh, sacrifice, where the man is cut open, right, and then the cops come in, the naked guy jumps off the table, comes out, and the guy, the cop shoots him immediately, and then looks around and is like, he was coming for me, he was coming for me.

[00:22:17] June Diane Raphael: I love that moment. I love that moment.

[00:22:21] Jason Mantzoukas: This movie, I wouldn’t have been surprised if this movie followed an internal affairs investigation. That’s how tertiary to important events the characters in this movie are.

[00:22:32] June Diane Raphael: Well because also, why does that, why is that police department so threatened by this report?

[00:22:39] Jason Mantzoukas: And why do they all have wigs? They seem to all have crazy wigs, I feel like.

[00:22:46] June Diane Raphael: Do you think the actors have wigs or the characters just are wearing wigs?

[00:22:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Now that’s interesting.

[00:22:51] Paul Scheer: I, I didn’t notice the wigs as much as I noticed that all of them, if you told me they were, um, part time strippers and part time cops, because they all had like slightly unbuttoned blue shirts, hair was wild, and at one point, the guy before he’s going to kill this winged serpent, he’s just chugging a beer. Like, I’m like, these are.

[00:23:15] June Diane Raphael: Oh, this police department, the NYPD, when they’re major sting at the end to get the winged, to get Q the winged serpent, there are police officers just sitting outside in baskets, hanging from the building, in baskets.

[00:23:30] Paul Scheer: With machine guns, yes.

[00:23:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Brah, brah, brah, brah, nobody is like, you know what, this did not work for King Kong, why are we doing this Paul, can I ask you just a super quick question, Do you have any evidence available that Michael Moriarty plays the piano?

[00:23:47] Paul Scheer: Um, yes, I have. That’s I’m gonna, I can blow your mind with three quick facts. Michael Moriarty was not written to play the piano. But when the director found out that he did, he was like, let’s make it a whole subplot. So that is to the improvised part of it. I also want to speak to this part of it too, which is Yes, there were actors on the top of the Chrysler building firing machine guns that were unloading blanks that were falling on New York City citizens.

[00:24:26] Thankfully, there is a net that protects like debris from falling. So it didn’t hit anyone. And the director’s response to that was we were upset because we wanted to see people reacting to getting hot shell casings dropping on their heads.

[00:24:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible stuff.

[00:24:44] Paul Scheer: And because of this movie, you are not allowed to fire live rounds on the top of buildings like that anymore.

[00:24:55] June Diane Raphael: That’s good. If the movie did anything. Um, It’s so funny because the scene, that bar scene, I’ll never, I’ll never stop thinking about that bar scene.

[00:25:08] Paul Scheer: Can I play it?

[00:25:09] Jason Mantzoukas: Holy shit.

[00:25:09] June Diane Raphael: For the rest of my days. It was haunting.

[00:25:12] Jason Mantzoukas: This is incredible. This is, and I really mean this when I say this movie is in our, like, uh, you know, pantheon of, of movies, fantastic. For just such scenes as this.

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[00:25:41] June Diane Raphael: I couldn’t understand that. I couldn’t understand that.

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[00:26:16] Paul Scheer: Some people seem into it. Some people seem out of it. I don’t know what the movie is trying to tell me.

[00:26:23] June Diane Raphael: I couldn’t tell if people loved it. I couldn’t tell if people hated it. I couldn’t tell if we were supposed to like it. I couldn’t tell if we were supposed to hate it.

[00:26:30] Jason Mantzoukas: I couldn’t understand what he was trying to do for me. He walks into the bar where his girlfriend works. He says to the owner.

[00:26:39] June Diane Raphael: But we don’t know at that point.

[00:26:40] Paul Scheer: But he’s making eye contact with her.

[00:26:42] Jason Mantzoukas: He’s making a meaningful eye contact with her. But regardless.

[00:26:44] June Diane Raphael: I thought he was flirting.

[00:26:45] Paul Scheer: No, the bartender’s like, How did you know we had an opening for a piano player? And he’s like, uh, And she’s like.

[00:26:50] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, but to me, it’s like, It seemed to me, it seemed like the guy, the owner did not want a musician.

[00:26:56] June Diane Raphael: That’s what I was confounded by.

[00:26:58] Jason Mantzoukas: So Michael Moriarty, to me, it felt like he was staking out a place to rob, or this was part of the job. Also, David Carradine shows up in this scene. Truly inexplicable.

[00:27:10] Paul Scheer: David Carradine, David Carradine likes a beverage of multiple times. We see him when he’s off duty, he’s just getting a drink. Coffee, beer, whatever it may be.

[00:27:20] Jason Mantzoukas: This is top to bottom, like absolute nuts.

[00:27:25] June Diane Raphael: And the crazy part about this scene is, I think that this scene is supposed to, is supposed to endear us to Michael character.

[00:27:35] I think, I think we are supposed to root for him. At one point.

[00:27:39] Jason Mantzoukas: He thinks we’re supposed to.

[00:27:40] June Diane Raphael: Okay. He is a racist. He’s also admitted to like kicking the shit out of his girlfriend.

[00:27:46] Jason Mantzoukas: No, he hasn’t. She says it.

[00:27:48] Paul Scheer: She’s like, well, at least you didn’t punch me this time.

[00:27:52] June Diane Raphael: He’s an alcoholic. I’m like, this man is so, and he’s not well.

[00:27:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, no. There were periods where I was like, is his performance meant to be like, like really nuts? Like what is he?

[00:28:05] Paul Scheer: He’s a nervous eater who I’m afraid of everything, but I’m not afraid of heights.

[00:28:09] Jason Mantzoukas: When he says, when he says. When he goes, uh, when he’s comes back from the, the attic full of skeletons to his girlfriend, and he’s like, I just, I want to cry. I haven’t cried since I was a little kid, but I, I just want to cry, what I saw. He’s doing so much.

[00:28:28] Paul Scheer: And this is like what this scene is to me. What’s so odd about it is it starts off.

[00:28:36] Jason Mantzoukas: I’m sorry. I just want to cry, but I’m supposed to be a man.

[00:28:41] Paul Scheer: When he says. When he sits down at this piano, there’s a, this is, I’ll just give you my point of view of the emotions that I went through. I was like, okay, we’re going to now see that this criminal has actually got a real talent.

[00:28:55] June Diane Raphael: Wonderful pianist.

[00:28:56] Paul Scheer: That’s going to be great. Then he starts playing. I’m like, Okay, maybe this is like kind of that moment in back to the future where Marty McFly and his band is playing and then Huey Lewis is like, I’m afraid you’re just too darn loud. I’m like, okay, maybe he’s like, it’s they’re not ready for that.

[00:29:10] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.

[00:29:11] Paul Scheer: And then he’s playing in such an aggressive way. Like, is he in here because he wants to start a fight with the bartender because the bartender has been hitting on his girlfriend and he wants to be like, Fuck you like, you know.

[00:29:23] Jason Mantzoukas: The way he’s playing first of all clearly because in many instances you can see his fingers so he is clearly playing he can play the piano.

[00:29:31] June Diane Raphael: Sorta.

[00:29:31] Jason Mantzoukas: That being said I mean.

[00:29:33] Paul Scheer: It’s not barely. Barely playing.

[00:29:35] Jason Mantzoukas: What he’s doing is not anything that would get him a job.

[00:29:40] Paul Scheer: Or anything anyone would listen to.

[00:29:43] Jason Mantzoukas: So that makes me feel like he, again, he mustn’t want this. This must not be real. He’s here for some other reason.

[00:29:50] June Diane Raphael: But do you think he was going in there to impress his girlfriend?

[00:29:55] Jason Mantzoukas: I think, I think the movie logic is he wants to be a piano guy instead of being a crook, and now he’s got, this is his chance. He doesn’t get it. So now he has to take the.

[00:30:08] June Diane Raphael: Wow.

[00:30:09] Jason Mantzoukas: So because he doesn’t get this job, he has to take the job robbing the diamond store.

[00:30:14] June Diane Raphael: Wow.

[00:30:14] Jason Mantzoukas: That’s what the movie wants, I think.

[00:30:15] June Diane Raphael: Not read any of that.

[00:30:16] Jason Mantzoukas: I don’t, it’s successful, but I think that’s the plot

[00:30:18] June Diane Raphael: As I’m hearing it, it makes sense. I do think that’s what it’s because there were so many looks and so many weird I couldn’t.

[00:30:24] Paul Scheer: But just play a normal fucking song if you want.

[00:30:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, play a song.

[00:30:29] Paul Scheer: And I’m going to say this, I’m okay with all of this until I hear how he learned to play this song at the end, which is the weirdest, racist rant I’ve ever heard. Where I’m like, ooh, I’m like, this is making me uncomfortable. Like, I’m like, you shouldn’t be sharing this.

[00:30:48] And then, And then what I’ve come to realize is that that man who taught him hated him. And, and knew he was a racist. He’s like, yeah, I’ll show you how to play piano. This is what we call jazz. And then he’s like, thanks buddy. And then he’s gone on his entire life. Like, don’t worry. This famous guy taught me this.

[00:31:10] And. It was a giant fuck you. So that’s, that’s my logic is that he has been an asshole his entire life. And this guy has sabotaged him.

[00:31:19] June Diane Raphael: What an unpleasant man.

[00:31:20] Jason Mantzoukas: At this point, I have to think his girlfriend is a fool because she should be like, uh, I got to dump this guy.

[00:31:30] Paul Scheer: She should have dumped him a long time ago.

[00:31:32] Jason Mantzoukas: I mean, he is a garbage person.

[00:31:36] Paul Scheer: But, makes this movie one of the best films I’ve ever seen. Now, when he’s up in this robbery, I rerun this scene a handful of times because it’s a robbery in which we don’t see the interior of the place that they’re robbing. Um, they walk in and then very mutedly we hear, Hey, who are those guys? And then he’s running out.

[00:31:59] I’m like, what happened? I don’t know. And I’m like, did I miss it? He does have a gun. It looks like someone has been shot. He’s got a bag full of diamonds. He gets hit by a cab. The diamonds go flying. He has no, like, response to go get them.

[00:32:17] Jason Mantzoukas: And then he takes off running. Nobody’s chasing him for a long time. Not at all. He’s gotten away with it.

[00:32:23] Paul Scheer: He’s running to a phone booth to call his lawyer to say I’m gonna be in there in a second.

[00:32:30] June Diane Raphael: But also like don’t don’t tell anyone. Just walk off into the night. Nobody saw you. Nothing’s happening. Nobody’s after you.

[00:32:37] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah, you don’t here’s what you don’t.

[00:32:38] Paul Scheer: Go get the diamonds.

[00:32:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Get the diamonds and or go home. You don’t need to climb into the roof of the Chrysler building.

[00:32:46] June Diane Raphael: Okay that journey I want to get to that in a second. I want to get to how he ends up there.

[00:32:53] Jason Mantzoukas: The foley work in this is nuts. When he’s climbing the ladder, it sounds like he’s farting every step of the way.

[00:33:03] June Diane Raphael: The thing that’s so crazy about this robbery is there’s so much made of the fact that he’s just a driver. He doesn’t go in and do the dirty work. And he’s not risking of himself to do the dirty work, which is so fascinating knowing what happens to him later on. Like, I think the movie wants us to believe that this is a guy initially who is not like willing to take major risks in his life, but then at the end, he’s willing to let people die so that he can make $2, 000, 000 off the city.

[00:33:40] Jason Mantzoukas: Like, the amount of focus that’s given to his negotiating what he wants.

[00:33:45] June Diane Raphael: By the way.

[00:33:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Which is, I believe, all improvised. I want a fleet of helicopters. What?

[00:33:49] June Diane Raphael: Okay, when he starts talking about how he’s gonna own the copyright to all photographs, I was like, I want him in the room at the next WGA strike. This guy knows what’s up.

[00:34:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Send him to the DNC immediately. I need this motherfucker choosing what’s up.

[00:34:09] Paul Scheer: Cause he was, by the way, he was right. I want a million dollars. I want to have for whatever crimes I do commit in the future, you can’t get me on that either.

[00:34:20] Jason Mantzoukas: Next level.

[00:34:20] Paul Scheer: Clear my record in the past and the future, Minority Report style. Which would mean that he could go off on a killing spree. He could be a robber. Like, he’s not saying I won’t commit any more crimes. He’s like, now you’ve given me carte blanche.

[00:34:32] June Diane Raphael: But, but Paul. Okay, so this is what I don’t understand about the other criminals that he’s with if he doesn’t want to go in there I don’t know why they give him a gun, but I believe someone died in there.

[00:34:46] Paul Scheer: I think two people got shot.

[00:34:47] Jason Mantzoukas: Who are those guys?

[00:34:48] June Diane Raphael: Well here’s my question though, in that moment does he does Michael Moriarty decide, I see shit’s going down. I’m going to grab the diamonds. How do you know that?

[00:34:59] Jason Mantzoukas: He’s a piece of shit.

[00:35:02] June Diane Raphael: Okay.

[00:35:02] Jason Mantzoukas: I think he like left, I think he saw an opportunity, grabbed the diamonds and left.

[00:35:08] Paul Scheer: But then he doesn’t even seem like he wants those diamonds. And then there’s also no one who finds it like a little kid should have been like, hey, look, diamonds.

[00:35:16] June Diane Raphael: I thought the serpent was going to get, I thought.

[00:35:19] Paul Scheer: Hey, look, diamonds.

[00:35:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Let’s ADR that. Can somebody ADR that into the movie?

[00:35:24] Paul Scheer: Hey, look, diamonds are ours. I like to call them my birth control.

[00:35:28] Jason Mantzoukas: I’d love it if David Carradine said, Oh, I’m going to go take my birth control pill and just popped a diamond into his mouth.

[00:35:35] Paul Scheer: By the way, also in that, in that, uh, in that scene with David Carradine and again with the birth control, I forgot the best part, in a kimono.

[00:35:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, yeah. Oh, incredible stuff. Reading about the Q, the winged serpent.

[00:35:47] June Diane Raphael: But let’s just go back to how we end up in the nest in the top of the Chrysler building. So he goes in that building to meet with his lawyer to confess to a crime that nobody has seen him do.

[00:35:58] Jason Mantzoukas: Nobody knows.

[00:35:59] Paul Scheer: Seems like everyone’s dead.

[00:36:01] Jason Mantzoukas: And then the security guard for the building, having no concept that Michael Moriarty is related to a crime that has just happened. Just as like, Hey, and he’s like, Oh, and Moriarty start ascending to the rafters

[00:36:16] Paul Scheer: And no one’s chasing him. No one’s chasing him.

[00:36:20] Jason Mantzoukas: He’s always acting suspicious. He’s never not suspicious.

[00:36:24] June Diane Raphael: At a certain point though. Didn’t you get the feeling that he’s not even worried about the security guard watching him or coming after him. He’s just continuing to walk.

[00:36:32] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. Up. I feel like, do you feel like also that maybe these were just Michael Moriarty choices? And the director was like. Mike, I don’t think we can follow you up there.

[00:36:41] Well, come on, get a camera up here. Come on. Come on.

[00:36:44] Paul Scheer: All right. So here’s my, again, if we’re going to go backwards and reinvent the script, the very easy fix would be he runs out of the jewelry store with the diamonds. I don’t know where to hide these. Knock, knock, knock on my lawyer’s door.

[00:36:56] Hey, can I put these in a safe? He’s not there. Shit. Uh, I’ll hide it up in the top of the building.

[00:37:01] Jason Mantzoukas: Great.

[00:37:01] Paul Scheer: I go up there. A nest and and then maybe he does. Oh, they’ll never see it here and he hides it there. Whatever it is, that at least gives me .

[00:37:10] June Diane Raphael: That’s great, Paul. That’s great.

[00:37:11] Jason Mantzoukas: Imagine if the diamonds, it’s by the way, you know how else that helps.

[00:37:16] You know what else helps there is if then he is to the guys. I know where the diamonds are.

[00:37:21] Paul Scheer: Yes.

[00:37:21] Jason Mantzoukas: And he does bring them to the nest because in fact the diamonds are there. We dunno where the diamonds are.

[00:37:29] Paul Scheer: The fact that goes up there unprompted with nothing to hide for no reason. And when the reason was so easy, he had the bag in his hands.

[00:37:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Why does he have to lose the diamonds? Why?

[00:37:45] June Diane Raphael: I don’t know. And then also it’s, it’s very confusing why those two other thugs are willing to go on that ladder, are willing to ascend it in front of him.

[00:37:56] Paul Scheer: By the way, the cops do the same thing. A giant, uh, winged serpent up there. Let’s all go up on the ladder, cause we have more power, all like, basically like dominoes, like, chomp, chomp, chomp, it’s like Pac Man!

[00:38:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Remember when the cops were like, I don’t want you to go in there unarmed, and try and give him a gun?

[00:38:13] June Diane Raphael: They do give him a gun!

[00:38:13] Jason Mantzoukas: And he’s like, I don’t think so, man. What?

[00:38:17] Paul Scheer: Don’t trust me. Don’t trust me. I’m a scumbag.

[00:38:20] June Diane Raphael: It’s so crazy. Everybody wants to give him a gun.

[00:38:23] Jason Mantzoukas: I loved, I genuinely loved, again, I know this, a lot of the stuff I’m saying is repetitive just because I do feel like Michael Moriarty is improvising a lot. I can see it, and it’s really funny to me, what he’s choosing to fixate on. One of which is the giant canvas tent on top of the Chrysler building. He says, You don’t listen to me! You gotta get the big canvas tent! He says it, I’m gonna say, 30 times, in the course of 7 minutes. You can tell it’s an idea he’s obsessed with and they had to put it in again They had to put it in.

[00:38:59] June Diane Raphael: But he’s also like he’s seen I think multiple dead bodies up there and remains.

[00:39:06] Paul Scheer: Can I just say the other thing that he says in this scene? You’re talking about his improv When he comes back, and we’ll play a clip of this scene with his girlfriend, he’s upset. She’s worried. Where have you been? And he says, he fell asleep under a staircase. And my thought was, when?

[00:39:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Up in the Chrysler, in the nest? Did he fall asleep in the nest area?

[00:39:31] Paul Scheer: I don’t know, but that wouldn’t.

[00:39:33] June Diane Raphael: Here’s a question that’s never answered, or if it was, I missed it, but at one point, he says Q the winged serpent hasn’t attacked him and he’s been up there twice.

[00:39:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah.

[00:39:43] June Diane Raphael: Why?

[00:39:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. Why? Why? It’s so much so that I was like, I hadn’t thought of it until then.

[00:39:48] June Diane Raphael: Is he part serpent?

[00:39:49] Jason Mantzoukas: He brings up an interesting choice. And I thought to myself, is it possible he is Q the winged serpent?

[00:39:54] June Diane Raphael: I had the same thought.

[00:39:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Is he turning into Q the winged serpent? And I was like, cool move. Nope. Nope. Never answered.

[00:40:00] Paul Scheer: I, I want to just. Just talk about the one thing that you’ll never see, because it was in the original theatrical print.

[00:40:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Is this not that? Is what I watched on Peacock not that?

[00:40:13] Paul Scheer: It is. They said it was not on any of the other airings, just the original. At the end of the movie, we see, you know, the other egg, sorry Jason. We see the other egg, and it cuts right to credits.

[00:40:27] Jason Mantzoukas: Give me my EpiPen.

[00:40:29] Paul Scheer: It cuts right to credits. But in the original theatrical movie you see the other egg it cracks open and then a title card comes up. It says Michael Moriarty’s character did sue the city and got a million dollars tax free

[00:40:48] Jason Mantzoukas: This is the kind of thing that I would believe if I would believe you told me actually the writing and directing names are fake Michael Moriarty made this whole movie Including all the, uh, uh, uh, the miniatures of Q the Winged Scorpion.

[00:41:05] Paul Scheer: Alright, well can i, I was gonna say this for the end, but I’ll just say it to you now.

[00:41:09] So the director of this movie, he’s known for films like Maniac Cop, he’s, he’s done a lot of like schlocky movies, started off doing like blackploitation movies and kind of moved into cop movies. He was fired off of a very big budget film. And he was like, fuck it. I already have this hotel room for a couple more days. Wrote the script in seven days and kept the cast from the other movie and just, pushed them into this, um, and, uh, and like, and whoever could do it, did it, and that was it. And they called in all of it, like, well, maybe I should say this. I don’t know if it’s the same cast. He just basically wrote the movie in seven days. He’s like, I’ve already been to location scouting. Let’s go. And then shot the movie.

[00:41:51] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, that makes sense. That actually now helps me understand what the fuck this was.

[00:41:56] June Diane Raphael: Yeah.

[00:41:56] Jason Mantzoukas: This was a cocaine nightmare.

[00:41:58] June Diane Raphael: There is a point just I just want to point out one crowd scene I don’t know if anyone else saw this but I can’t remember if it’s when Q is sort of falling off the building or if it’s when you know, people are bleeding on people, but there’s one crowd scene where it’s like oh New York City streets mayhem like people don’t know where to go and don’t know where to hide and there’s one one man who simply is in the middle of the street.

[00:42:25] It’s almost like seeing a carpet rolled up. He just, he just rolls, just nothing. Nothing is happening to him. There’s no danger. He just rolled across the street. I was crying laughing. Oh, so it did feel like it did. There, there are certain moments in this film where it’s just like, everybody’s on drugs. Like just like everybody.

[00:42:54] Jason Mantzoukas: What they are trying to tell us what they’re trying to, what the movie’s trying to tell me is a normal thing is for like four hot bodied young people to be on the rooftop pool of a high rise in Midtown Manhattan. So that one of the women can do 60 push ups.

[00:43:12] June Diane Raphael: Okay, oh my I cannot believe we haven’t talked about this.

[00:43:16] Jason Mantzoukas: And everybody just watches. And the guy’s like, so wait, you just called me over here to watch this? Okay. And they’re just like, 56, 57. And they’re like, yeah, like normal new Yorkers.

[00:43:27] Paul Scheer: Hey, just a regular Wednesday.

[00:43:31] June Diane Raphael: So I had so many questions about that scene. And again, I’ll never stop thinking about it. Because I do think, you know, the movie it’s located at a time where women are, you know, the opening scene, that woman is not a secretary. She is some sort of high powered CEO and in running her own business in that moment. And then. So I clocked that based on when the movie’s made. And then that scene on the rooftop, I really am trying to contextualize and frame in terms of just like, what’s happening with women.

[00:44:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Yeah. He thought he was coming over to fuck three women.

[00:44:10] June Diane Raphael: Okay. But she did call him. She did call him.

[00:44:15] Jason Mantzoukas: And said, get over here.

[00:44:16] June Diane Raphael: Get over here. And watch me work out.

[00:44:19] Jason Mantzoukas: And then he was like, and then they, she did 60 pushups, kept going.

[00:44:22] And he was like, Uh, is this why you called me over here? This is so, so much bullshit. He was like, fine, I’ll just get in the pool. Q the wing, and serpent grabs him, takes him and chucks him off the building.

[00:44:32] Paul Scheer: Well, now here’s the thing.

[00:44:33] Jason Mantzoukas: Boom.

[00:44:33] Paul Scheer: Now here’s the thing about this winged serpent. Normally in movies like this you see people behaving badly, and they’re the ones who get killed so the first guy, he’s not that bad.

[00:44:44] Jason Mantzoukas: But no he’s a creep. He’s not a flirt. What are you talking about? He’s a flirt. This is a predator.

[00:44:54] Paul Scheer: Hey, hey lady. Hey lady. Hey lady. I know so yes, okay, you’re right.

[00:44:59] June Diane Raphael: He’s hanging outside her window.

[00:45:01] Paul Scheer: Well, that’s his job. To be fair, that is his job.

[00:45:05] June Diane Raphael: He has nothing to clean there.

[00:45:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Didn’t she say that he’d done it three days in a row? Like, the window is clean, my guy.

[00:45:11] Paul Scheer: That’s what people say about the empire State Building. The cleanest windows in New York. Um, so, alright. First person creep. Second person, just a woman sunbathing with things over her eyes. She can’t see the winged serpent yet screams as if she looks and looks right in this face. All right, so she’s innocent.

[00:45:33] June Diane Raphael: She’s not innocent because she has her boobs out.

[00:45:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes, she has the sin of titties. It’s just the sin of titties.

[00:45:41] June Diane Raphael: In the world of this movie, she needs to, she needs to be punished.

[00:45:46] Paul Scheer: Okay, alright, alright, well then, well then let’s, well now my theory’s falling apart, but then let’s go to

[00:45:51] Jason Mantzoukas: But you know who doesn’t die? The creep on the rooftop adjacent.

[00:45:55] Paul Scheer: That’s what I’m talking about.

[00:45:57] Jason Mantzoukas: Who seems to be, who you, who you think is looking, he’s looking at her through a telescope, except it’s not. It’s like a surveyor’s equipment. He’s, he’s looking at her through a sextant, I think. I’m pretty sure it’s a sextant.

[00:46:10] June Diane Raphael: It’s so funny, like, so much really is.

[00:46:13] Paul Scheer: Adam driver’s character uses in Megalopolis.

[00:46:16] June Diane Raphael: So much is happening on the rooftop. It’s like where all the singles go.

[00:46:21] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my God. It’s a whole other New York.

[00:46:23] Paul Scheer: But this is what I’m going to say. So, all right. So, okay. Sunbather, she gets killed. Construction worker. He seems like they’re abusing him because at first he’s like, Hey, where’d my sandwich go?

[00:46:34] Hey, you guys steal my sandwich. And you think, Oh, Oh, Q the winged serpent stole his sandwich.

[00:46:39] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah.

[00:46:39] June Diane Raphael: Yeah, that was a big mistake.

[00:46:40] Paul Scheer: And then it’s revealed, no, those guys actually did steal a sandwich.

[00:46:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. And the one guy’s like, his wife does make a good sandwich. I might have to pay her a visit soon and tell her so. Because I’m a fucking rapist. What?

[00:46:54] June Diane Raphael: I didn’t know what that meant.

[00:46:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Why would he say that?

[00:46:57] Paul Scheer: Those guys live, but this poor hungry man who’s just trying to do a job and married to a beautiful woman who makes a great sandwich.

[00:47:03] June Diane Raphael: I truly did not understand. Again, this is a whole experience of watching this movie. I was like, I don’t get people. Yeah. I don’t get.

[00:47:12] Jason Mantzoukas: The wrong people win all the time.

[00:47:14] Paul Scheer: Well, I mean, and then you have.

[00:47:16] June Diane Raphael: Why did, why were they taking a sandwich? You seem like a nice guy.

[00:47:21] Paul Scheer: And then you have the best death in the entire film. That this is my favorite one, which is our other cop. We haven’t really mentioned him that much, but Richard Round tree.

[00:47:31] Who’s up on a, uh, up on the roof looking for someone with his partner. A mime.

[00:47:37] June Diane Raphael: Okay, okay. This Okay.

[00:47:41] Jason Mantzoukas: This was nuts.

[00:47:43] June Diane Raphael: Before you play this part, I just want to talk about that mime first. I had to stop the movie. I had to stop the movie and really make sure what I was seeing was correct, which is that the NYPD has placed an undercover cop out in the streets in front of the museum to see the comings and goings and that they have disguised him. His cover is a mime.

[00:48:08] Paul Scheer: A mime in an Amadeus shirt. Uh, not the movie. Uh, but the Broadway production. So this mime is also bucking conventional trends by not by wearing like a pattern shirt Like he’s not wearing a traditional mime shirt.

[00:48:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, there’s also when they’re when they’re done and they’re like, oh we got oh we got we got to go to the next location. They all bundle into the car and he says to them. How did I do?

[00:48:33] June Diane Raphael: Okay, I heard that.

[00:48:34] Jason Mantzoukas: No someone says to him, how did you do money wise and he says well, not that good or yeah, that’s right. Like it’s up for grabs whether he was a good mime or not.

[00:48:43] June Diane Raphael: It made me wonder, like again, another movie in this movie that I’d like to watch, which is like, do all the undercover cops have to list their talents or interests?

[00:48:55] Jason Mantzoukas: Special skills.

[00:48:56] Paul Scheer: You guys, I’m going to ask you a question because I think I know the answer, but I want to see if I’m right. What was he doing?

[00:49:03] June Diane Raphael: As a mime?

[00:49:04] Paul Scheer: Yeah. What was he watching for?

[00:49:06] June Diane Raphael: He was, I thought he was watching for, for, uh.

[00:49:10] Jason Mantzoukas: The two people who were going to perform the sacrifice.

[00:49:14] Paul Scheer: How would you ever find those two people? That’s like saying, I saw two people in New York city. That must be them. Like there’s no, they have no clue about this man.

[00:49:25] Jason Mantzoukas: For most of the movie, no one has seen Q the Winged Serpent. For most of the movie, only an hour and ten minutes in, does the police chief say, 70 people have seen the Winged Serpent. Only just now have we gotten reports in that people have seen the Winged serpent.

[00:49:43] Paul Scheer: But no one has ever seen this man! So you’re just saying hey, you hang out in front of the museum and wait to see two men talking. Chances are it’s them. It’s so wild. So this is the, this is my favorite scene. So Richard Roundtree looking around.

[00:50:03] Jason Mantzoukas: The mime.

[00:50:04] Paul Scheer: Mime with a gun. Who is still moving like a mime or maybe it’s impossible to stop moving like a mime when you are dressed like a mime. I don’t know.

[00:50:16] Jason Mantzoukas: By the way, look at the smog of New York City. All ADR.

[00:50:48] June, June, are you okay?

[00:50:53] Paul Scheer: June just got jump scared by the movie she’s already seen.

[00:51:01] Jason Mantzoukas: June!

[00:51:02] Paul Scheer: And this is why, this is why I, what is, I can walk in and out of a room in our house and June will have the same jump scare.

[00:51:12] June Diane Raphael: I’m really on edge. I’m really on edge.

[00:51:16] Paul Scheer: I’m gonna say this has nothing to do with anything.

[00:51:19] June Diane Raphael: I forgot it was a kite, wasn’t it? It was a kite.

[00:51:22] Jason Mantzoukas: Holy shit, that’s funny. I want people to understand. So in the movie, Richard Rountree’s on the rooftop, and it’s a tense moment. Q the winged serpent might arrive, and instead a kite flies into his head. When the kite flew into his head, June hit the deck.

[00:51:40] As if the kite had hit her head. It really was It was a sympathetic reaction.

[00:51:46] Paul Scheer: I, I jumped, I jumped on your jump, because something is happening.

[00:51:51] Jason Mantzoukas: June grabs her own head like, I need to, there must be more, there must be more kites coming.

[00:51:59] Paul Scheer: There’s, like all of a sudden this show became a 3D show where like, then the kites will hit you in the audience as well.

[00:52:06] June Diane Raphael: I’m so embarrassed. That’s actually, this is very vulnerable, what just happened. I really just showed myself. I, I, I showed my whole ass.

[00:52:16] Jason Mantzoukas: That’s how good this movie is.

[00:52:18] Paul Scheer: Oh my gosh, and that’s why I can’t stop scaring her. And in our wedding vows, I had to promise her I would never put her on scare tactics.

[00:52:29] All right, here we go.

[00:52:33] The mime, the mime sees the winged serpent and does not at first say anything like a mime.

[00:52:43] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah, oh no, he’s and his reactions are gigantic. His facial reactions are gigantic and they’re smiling, laughing, he’s excited, but he does, but I will say what I thought was very smart was the only reason the winged serpent doesn’t get him is because he is in a box.

[00:53:01] Paul Scheer: Oh, that’s smart.

[00:53:02] Jason Mantzoukas: He is in a protective box.

[00:53:05] Paul Scheer: Now the winged serpent seems to just.

[00:53:08] June Diane Raphael: Just drop him.

[00:53:09] Paul Scheer: Drop him.

[00:53:09] June Diane Raphael: There are times, there are a couple times in the movie, like yes, he does pick up.

[00:53:13] Paul Scheer: Look at that winged serpent, by the way.

[00:53:15] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, in all of its glory.

[00:53:18] Paul Scheer: Ugh.

[00:53:18] June Diane Raphael: I really don’t like seeing that big muscle over there.

[00:53:21] Jason Mantzoukas: It looks like, I’ll be honest, a thin dick.

[00:53:25] Paul Scheer: I was gonna say, it looks like, it looks like someone, the winged serpent looks like someone who ate a Tootsie Roll and then tried to make it like a dick. And it’s like, but it’s I wish you were a little bit more talented. You may have been able to do it. Oh, it’s so upsetting.

[00:53:40] June Diane Raphael: Neck is way too long.

[00:53:43] Paul Scheer: I, there’s so much to get into here.

[00:53:46] I want to go to the crowd before it gets too late here. Like, so if you have a question, if you have a question about this, if you know anything about history, if you know anything about working on top of tall buildings, do they give you any protection from Quetzalcoatls? Uh, let us know. All right. Yes. Okay.

[00:54:00] Hi, how are you?

[00:54:01] Audience Member: So, first of all, I’d like to say that I was born, uh, two months before the first episode.

[00:54:06] Paul Scheer: Alex, have I ever talked to you before? No. Okay.

[00:54:13] Jason Mantzoukas: What the fuck?!

[00:54:15] Audience Member: Fourteen years. Fourteen years.

[00:54:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Fourteen years?! Get fucked! Are you serious?!

[00:54:22] Audience Member: Unfortunately.

[00:54:23] Jason Mantzoukas: God damn it!

[00:54:24] Paul Scheer: Amazing. Amazing. Okay, you might be the youngest person we’ve ever had here.

[00:54:27] Amid the youngest person. Well, I don’t know what it is. It’s something, it’s good, and I’m not going to take it away from you.

[00:54:33] Audience Member: Alright, so in the first construction scene, the construction worker says to the other guys I’m gonna shove the thermos up your asses one at a time.

[00:54:43] Paul Scheer: Oh, yeah, I remember this.

[00:54:44] Audience Member: Does that mean he’s gonna shove the thermos up their ass?

[00:54:48] Take it out, take it out, shove it up his ass, yeah, exactly, exactly.

[00:54:53] Jason Mantzoukas: Get him to bend over, shove it up his ass. Alec, I don’t like that we’re having this conversation. I wish we weren’t having this conversation, but we are.

[00:55:02] June Diane Raphael: And you know what?

[00:55:03] Jason Mantzoukas: And we’re in agreement.

[00:55:04] Paul Scheer: Jason and a 14 year old are talking about how to shove thermoses up.

[00:55:11] Jason Mantzoukas: I’m so sorry. I’m just so sorry. The FBI is here. What’s that?

[00:55:16] Paul Scheer: Uh, yes. Okay. Your name?

[00:55:17] Audience Member: Tim.

[00:55:17] Paul Scheer: Tim. Hey . How you doing, Tim? Uh, what’s your question?

[00:55:20] Audience Member: So, a bunch of people in this movie have access to secret information until the end. David Carradine says, um, When those guys were trying to get to your apartment, you didn’t even use your gun.

[00:55:31] And his girlfriend’s saying, You killed those two guys. The cops are saying, you Killed those guys on purpose. And then the crooks say the diamond company told the insurance company that a guy left with a bag and it was worth $77, 000.

[00:55:44] Paul Scheer: Right, and then also the reason why they arrest Michael Moriarty is because those two gangsters Went to the cops and said hey, by the way, go to this like this like they.

[00:55:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Ratted him out He got them killed by q.

[00:55:57] Paul Scheer: Right, so before they went to go kill him they’re like, were they, like a lot of maneuvering around.

[00:56:03] Audience Member: So everyone knows everything until this scene, and David Carradine says, Well, I mean, you know, I just kind of figured that the Quetzalcoatl sacrificer would locate you and get you to confess all of your sins for forgiveness. Canvass every fleabag motel in the city for hours.

[00:56:18] Paul Scheer: Which is the thing, every fleabag, every fleabag motel we, we’ve. Guys, check every room of every hotel. Should take you about 35 minutes. Then we’ll figure it out.

[00:56:31] June Diane Raphael: The way I thought the whole thing with the sacrifice was that it had to be like you had to consent to it.

[00:56:36] Paul Scheer: Well, that’s what he won’t say the prayer.

[00:56:39] June Diane Raphael: Right.

[00:56:39] Jason Mantzoukas: I think you’re right.

[00:56:40] June Diane Raphael: But, but. Even if you force someone to say the prayer.

[00:56:44] Audience Member: David Carradine doesn’t know that.

[00:56:46] June Diane Raphael: No, I know David Carradine doesn’t know that. I’m just saying, in the world of the movie, would that even work for the winged creature?

[00:56:54] Paul Scheer: Well, I mean, here’s the other thing.

[00:56:55] Jason Mantzoukas: It’s a serpent, not a creature, June.

[00:56:57] June Diane Raphael: But that’s the other thing. But here’s my genuine, here’s my genuine question. They keep on saying that these sacrifices will bring Q, the winged serpent, to life. He’s to life.

[00:57:08] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah. Right.

[00:57:08] June Diane Raphael: He’s risen.

[00:57:09] Jason Mantzoukas: That’s what I don’t. He is risen.

[00:57:11] Paul Scheer: Here’s my thought. Here’s my thought. I think it makes eggs.

[00:57:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Hang on.

[00:57:18] June Diane Raphael: Wait.

[00:57:21] Paul Scheer: Hear me out.

[00:57:21] June Diane Raphael: Oh, so you’re saying the eggs have a reason?

[00:57:24] Paul Scheer: Every sacrifice creates an egg.

[00:57:27] June Diane Raphael: How do you know that?

[00:57:29] Jason Mantzoukas: I love this. I love this as an idea.

[00:57:31] Paul Scheer: Right? So we know that there are at least three sacrifices, which would be three. We have the dino and the two eggs.

[00:57:39] June Diane Raphael: I only saw one egg.

[00:57:41] Paul Scheer: The end, the final.

[00:57:42] June Diane Raphael: Oh, that final egg.

[00:57:43] Paul Scheer: Oh, by the way, great little fact about that. They couldn’t put the egg in the Chrysler building because it was too narrow in the top. So they put it in a regular building. And then they forgot to take it away. And then all these scientists came found this nest and they’re like, oh my god. We found this crazy nest.

[00:58:01] June Diane Raphael: Wait, is this real?

[00:58:02] Paul Scheer: This is real.

[00:58:03] Jason Mantzoukas: What?

[00:58:05] June Diane Raphael: No. Paul.

[00:58:06] Jason Mantzoukas: How long after do you know?

[00:58:08] Paul Scheer: Like years after the movie was made. Uh, cause they, they did it in like an abandoned police precinct. And they’re like, Whoa, look at this nest. It’s gigantic. What could it have possibly have been? And it was in the papers that they, that all these, uh, like ornithologists and, uh, and scientists were go studying this nest.

[00:58:29] All right. Yeah. What’s your name? What’s your question?

[00:58:31] Audience Member: David. Uh, so the robbery takes place at Neal diamonds. Yeah. And it’s a flying creature. Is this just a sequel to Jonathan Living Seagull?

[00:58:41] Jason Mantzoukas: Is it really called Neil Diamonds?

[00:58:43] Audience Member: Yes, it is.

[00:58:43] June Diane Raphael: I didn’t see that.

[00:58:44] Jason Mantzoukas: Fucking great.

[00:58:45] Paul Scheer: I love it.

[00:58:46] Jason Mantzoukas: Incredible.

[00:58:47] Paul Scheer: I was gonna say it’s a sequel to The Jazz Singer. Um, alright, so, cause we got him playing jazz. We got Neil Diamonds. There it is. All right. Uh, oh, yes. Yes. Hi.

[00:58:57] Audience Member: My name’s Nikita. Um, so I saw that one of the people that designed Q, uh, went on to design on Aliens. Do you think having this on his CV is like, what got him that job? Like they were so impressed with his work.

[00:59:11] Paul Scheer: They’re like, wow, that doesn’t look, it does look otherworldly. Uh, No, no creature we’ve ever seen.

[00:59:17] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. When I look at Q the winged serpent, I’m like, Ooh, that’s a face hugger.

[00:59:21] Paul Scheer: You know, this movie was actually kind of successful as a matter of fact, the movie that, uh, this guy was fired off of that, then he decided to write this script in six days, uh, it outgrossed that movie.

[00:59:32] So he, this movie was a hit. This movie was a hit and it’s a scary movie and uh, we learned a lot. Um, I do want I know I just want to like just get a moment of Michael Moriarty’s acting just for the hell of it.

[00:59:45] Jason Mantzoukas: And if you want.

[00:59:46] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[00:59:47] Jason Mantzoukas: To take a moment close your eyes and think is this Bill Burr?

[00:59:50] Movie Audio: Why do I stay with a dumb ex junkie?

[01:00:05] I don’t know why.

[01:00:09] I think there’s a lot of good in you somewhere.

[01:00:11] Yeah, where?

[01:00:13] I’m looking. I’m looking.

[01:00:18] I get all this evil dream, you know. Evil dream, go away. I walk upside up top of this building and I see dead things. And a nest, you know.

[01:00:32] A rat’s nest.

[01:00:33] No, well, no, it couldn’t have been rats. It was bigger than that. It was, uh, It was big, and there was something in it that looked like an egg, but it couldn’t have been an egg. I mean, there aren’t any eggs that are that big. And then there’s a hole in the roof so it can get in and get out.

[01:00:54] So it can get in and out.

[01:00:55] I just want to sleep.

[01:01:05] Paul Scheer: There you go. There you go.

[01:01:06] Jason Mantzoukas: I obviously, are we supposed to be rooting for them? That’s what I know. I don’t, are we, are we supposed to be like, I hope these kids work it out.

[01:01:15] June Diane Raphael: I, I couldn’t believe she went back to him at the end. I was very, it was very distressing.

[01:01:22] Jason Mantzoukas: I would love to know who has those diamonds.

[01:01:24] Paul Scheer: Me!

[01:01:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Like, wouldn’t it have been great if there was a post credit scene where there was like, like a quick scene about who picked up those diamonds and what they did with 70 some odd thousand dollars worth of diamonds?

[01:01:38] June Diane Raphael: Or if like, in one shot, the winged creature’s just like, wearing chains.

[01:01:41] Jason Mantzoukas: I love it! I love it. Is that the Met Gala?

[01:01:47] Paul Scheer: What are you wearing?

[01:01:48] Just something from Neil Diamonds.

[01:01:51] Jason Mantzoukas: What’s the story of what you’re wearing, Q the winged serpent?

[01:01:56] Paul Scheer: I found it under a truck. Um, alright, so obviously we had opinions about this, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

[01:02:07] Audience Member: Hi. My name is Adeze.

[01:02:17] I know Jimmy’s just a driver. He won’t carry a gun. And he sings random jazz songs. But I heard that there’s an Aztec monster Who’s flying around the towers And chomping all the people. This film’s a fever dream With David Carradine And Shaft is also there But he’s killed pointlessly. Yes, there’s an ancient beast that only gets stronger I want to love this film, but it just makes me scream Oh, what have you done?

[01:02:51] You’re a winged serpent. Killing all in random oh, Q Oh, you’re just having fun. And now so am I. So I’m giving it five stars It’s oh, Q It’s called Winged Serpent, hard to follow story, it’s a winged serpent, getting kinda gory, it’s a winged serpent, at least it had some boobies, it’s a winged serpent.

[01:03:22] Paul Scheer: Wow, wow, wow!

[01:03:24] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes!

[01:03:25] Paul Scheer: Great job.

[01:03:26] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes!

[01:03:27] Paul Scheer: Great job. 488 total reviews.

[01:03:30] Jason Mantzoukas: All of them, five stars?

[01:03:32] Paul Scheer: 73 percent five stars. Um, and, um, I’m going to do one that’s a little bit different than normal, but I’ll redo this first one from Darcy Drink Wine in 2013. Darcy drink wine, writes, all in caps, by the way.

[01:03:51] “I’ve always liked creature movies, ever since I was little. They are my number one favorite, right next to stalker movies. And, movies in the woods. Oh, P. S. I live in Johnstown, Vermont. 05656”

[01:04:06] June Diane Raphael: No, don’t say this.

[01:04:07] Paul Scheer: “And I had cable in the USA Network, and that’s where I saw this for the first time, when I was only 11 years old, and I fell in love with the USA Saturday Night Nightmares every Saturday night at 8pm. Five stars.”

[01:04:20] Jason Mantzoukas: So, wow. So, most of the review was in the PS. Yeah, the, the, the PS had most of it.

[01:04:29] Paul Scheer: Bell, Bell. In 2021, uh, titles, uh, her review.

[01:04:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Wait, the Disney Princess?

[01:04:35] Paul Scheer: I think so. Uh, “Scary and Terrific Plot” is her title. May also, all in caps.

[01:04:42] “Main character is dishonest, but courageous. If you love creepy monsters, this movie’s for you. Five stars.”

[01:04:54] Jason Mantzoukas: Now Like, do you think they’re saying that, that Michael Moriarty is courageous? Or Q the Winged Serpent? Who’s the main character?

[01:05:02] Paul Scheer: It’s a hard one to say. I would say that it’s I think that you don’t leave thinking Michael Moriarty is courageous.

[01:05:10] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, I do think he’s supposed to be the protagonist of the movie, but he should have been killed.

[01:05:14] June Diane Raphael: That’s crazy.

[01:05:16] Paul Scheer: A hundred percent.

[01:05:17] Jason Mantzoukas: He should have met a grisly end.

[01:05:19] Paul Scheer: I am going to read this review, which is a little longer than normal because I can’t make heads or tails of it, alright?

[01:05:25] Jason Mantzoukas: Do you want to do it in a spotlight?

[01:05:27] Paul Scheer: Uh, no, I don’t think we have that.

[01:05:28] Jason Mantzoukas: Okay, then don’t.

[01:05:29] Paul Scheer: Uh, A. G. writes in 2015, the title of the review is “The most life affirming monster movie ever made.”

[01:05:42] “The most life affirming monster movie ever made Coen understands his characters as people, not cannon fodder. And so his focus is on their amusingly mundane foibles, which evoke a sense of actual life that renders irrelevant the B movie’s special effects and impossibility of the premise. So wonderfully funny and deceptively complex analysis of crisis as the catalyst to a deeper engagement with community. The city pulses with selfishness, but Jimmy’s eventual rebirth as a decent person is a representative”

[01:06:17] June Diane Raphael: It never happens.

[01:06:20] Paul Scheer: “His rebirth as a decent person is representative of our better instincts prevailing when matters of life and death jar us from abstraction. Cohen! Stuffs! Ha ha ha! The film full of unpretentious, tossed off human details that read as both specifically New York and totally universal. The cop furtively sipping a Budweiser before resuming his crisis post. The amiable pervert cheering as the girl takes off her top. The waitress shifting from smile to irritation the second the customer isn’t looking. It reminds us we’re watching human beings, however, stylized in their story is of us all who toil anonymously until fate intervenes to test our metal, showing us a 9/11 aftermath mentality a decade before 9/11.”

[01:07:20] Two decades, as a matter of fact.

[01:07:23] “Cohen reminds us that even in our worst circumstances, yes, uh, even in a movie, we can tap into our reservoir of goodwill without losing the idiosyncrasies that make us uniquely prickly humans. Five stars.”

[01:07:42] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow. That is a real, like, uh, Mike, I read your honors thesis and we’re not gonna pass you. I read your honors thesis about Q the winged serpent and you’re gonna have to, we’re gonna fail you.

[01:08:00] Paul Scheer: I’m gonna do a rare third opinion because this is great. This is from Siskel and Ebert when they reviewed the film. And it’s a worthy discussion.

[01:08:10] Review Audio: Why am I laughing at Crunch Crunch? I didn’t recommend this movie, but it’s far from being the worst flying lizard movie I’ve ever seen. In fact, there are a lot of moments in Q that I kind of enjoyed, especially when the people are sunbathing on a rooftop and the lizard suddenly swoops down and grabs him. It serves you right for sunbathing in Manhattan. But you have to admit it’s a rather elementary level of entertainment in a movie. Q is a goofy movie. Maybe even makes a mistake by trying for good performances from Michael Moriarty and other good actors like David Carradine. So I vote a thumbs down on Q. Because I thought the movie was too ambitious for it’s own good. If it’s gonna be trash, it has to be willing to be great trash, instead of having pretensions.

[01:08:46] Well, I don’t think there was any pretensions about Michael Moriarty. What is pretentious, if you will, about the dialogue? Eat him! Eat him! I would love to eat him!

[01:08:55] You’re not being fair because you’re forgetting some of the other scenes where we get kind of the method acting introspection and he’s thinking about why he’s a loser and so forth.

[01:09:03] I thought that was a lot of fun and joy in his performance. I think it’s one of the unexpected good performance. I think it makes this just from being trash to good trash. Really do.

[01:09:11] Well, don’t you think though that sometimes a movie like this actually needs to have scenes in it that we can laugh at in terms of its awkwardness? Because isn’t there a strange juxtaposition between a good performance and really weird kind of special effects like that.

[01:09:23] Then let’s put it this way. You saw a performance that was surprising to you and you thought it hurt the movie. I saw a movie that was surprisingly good and I thought it elevated it and made it well. There’s a surprise there nonetheless.

[01:09:35] June Diane Raphael: Wow.

[01:09:36] Jason Mantzoukas: Is that a us? Is that what we’re doing? Like currently.

[01:09:44] Paul Scheer: I just love that they were able to get into Michael. He’s like, yeah, Michael Moriarty sucks. I think Michael Moriarty is a met like it’s like agree to disagree.

[01:09:52] June Diane Raphael: Why are they sitting so close to each other?

[01:09:56] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh, and they appear to be getting closer and closer as it goes. The next cut Siskel is on Ebert’s lap.

[01:10:03] Paul Scheer: Ebert a little pervy. Like I like the topless lady in the movie.

[01:10:07] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh my god serves you right for a sunbathing in Manhattan.

[01:10:13] Paul Scheer: This came out the same year as E.T. As I mentioned Raiders of the Lost Ark and Rocky 3 Uh, it’s also came out the same year as Mega Force Halloween 3 Grease 2 and yes Georgio. When first announced, they said Q would star James Coburn and Yaffa Koto then they fell out then for the part of Michael Moriarty, Eddie Murphy was the director’s choice.

[01:10:41] But the investors didn’t think an unknown would do well overseas. So not Eddie Murphy. Then it went to a young actor named Bruce Willis to play the David Carradine part. So this could have been Dave. This could have been Bruce Willis and Eddie Murphy. The winged serpent.

[01:11:04] Jason Mantzoukas: We would still be covering it on this show.

[01:11:08] Paul Scheer: But yeah, they both, but basically Bruce Willis and Eddie Murphy were not well known overseas. So they cut them out And that’s how it became David Carradine and Richard Rountree, which are people that he worked with in the past. As a matter of fact they Larry Cohen and David Carradine served in the army together.

[01:11:30] Jason Mantzoukas: Wow.

[01:11:31] Paul Scheer: Yeah. So that’s, uh, I mean, it’s, they were old friends. They were part of the army transportation.

[01:11:36] June Diane Raphael: So Eddie Murphy was supposed to play the Richard Rowntree part.

[01:11:38] Paul Scheer: No, Eddie Murphy was supposed to play the Michael Moriarty part.

[01:11:40] June Diane Raphael: Okay.

[01:11:41] Paul Scheer: So Richard Rowntree, unknown. I guess it was originally James Kotto. They dropped out. Then it went to Bruce Willis, and then it went to David Carradine. Michael Moriarty, it was originally just supposed to be Eddie Murphy.

[01:11:53] Jason Mantzoukas: I believe wholeheartedly that anybody else could have landed I’m gonna go take my birth control pill. I think anybody could have landed that plane successfully. Carradine struggled.

[01:12:05] Paul Scheer: Would you recommend this film?

[01:12:06] Jason Mantzoukas: Fuck yeah.

[01:12:07] Paul Scheer: Yeah.

[01:12:08] June Diane Raphael: Definitely.

[01:12:08] Paul Scheer: One of those rare. Great.

[01:12:10] June Diane Raphael: This was fine.

[01:12:11] Jason Mantzoukas: I wish they could all, like I said, at the beginning, I wish they could all be this good.

[01:12:15] This was a delight.

[01:12:17] Paul Scheer: True delight.

[01:12:18] Jason Mantzoukas: Never once did I press the button to pause to look at how much longer is left. I was soaking it in.

[01:12:26] Paul Scheer: It really just gets you and keeps on going. I highly recommend everybody watch Q the winged. Do you all agree? Um, any final thoughts?

[01:12:36] June Diane Raphael: I guess my only thought to close with is like there are roughly 15 other movies within this movie that I’d also like to see.

[01:12:45] Jason Mantzoukas: Yes. I would love to see the Q the Winged Serpent universe.

[01:12:49] June Diane Raphael: Yes.

[01:12:50] Paul Scheer: All I want to see is this scene. Which is the, the, the maid showing up at the flea bag motel to find a man shot so many times.

[01:13:02] Jason Mantzoukas: Well, I did, I did feel like that was another improvised line that we saw when he said like, Oh, this guy just won’t die or whatever. Like, It feels like all of this is, this guy doesn’t, does not die easily, is what it is.

[01:13:14] June Diane Raphael: Yeah, but like NYPD, you don’t want to collect any evidence. You don’t want to sit, you don’t want to take that guy’s wallet.

[01:13:19] Jason Mantzoukas: Oh yeah, you don’t call it in and be like, great. Get crime scene investigations over here.

[01:13:24] June Diane Raphael: That’s why when the movie ends with one of the eggs cracking and another winged serpent arriving, I’m like, well, yeah, they didn’t do any, any follow up.

[01:13:34] Jason Mantzoukas: Do you think that that baby is R the winged serpent?

[01:13:40] June Diane Raphael: Oh. Oh.

[01:13:43] Paul Scheer: Thank you everybody. Good night.

[01:13:50] Oh, I could have talked about Winged Serpent all night long. What a great show. Great to be back at Largo. What a crowd. Thank you to everybody who showed up to our live shows. We got more live shows coming. That’s right. We’re going to go on a big spring tour, but if you’re listening right now, November 15th, tomorrow, November 16th, we will be in Philadelphia.

[01:14:12] So get your tickets for that. We also have a virtual live show that anyone can watch anywhere in the world. That’s right. Anywhere in the world, get your tickets now before the price goes up, cause it goes up a little bit on the day of the show, which is 12/12 and you can watch this show for seven days after we do it live.

[01:14:31] It’s great. You can get all this and more and information about. All the shows that we have coming up, including Jason and I traveling all around the country, doing our Dinosaur improv with great guests like Edie Patterson from the Righteous Gemstones. And of course, Lisa Gilroy from, uh, Interior Chinatown and Jury Duty, Rob Hubel from Human Giant and a, How Did This Get Made All Star.

[01:14:51] So get tickets at HDTGM.Com. If you’re still stuck with the Winged Serpent, so are we. We got a great shirt coming out of this one. That’s right. We have a winged serpent with the title, the winged serpent underneath it, because we need to get the word out. People didn’t see this winged serpent in the actual film.

[01:15:10] We need to have people out there spotting this creature. So. What a great stocking stuffer for the Q worshiping fan in your life. We also have a great new coffee mugs in the store called How Did This Coffee Get Made, but definitely check out Pod Swag where we have all new Christmas merch. I’m talking about Team Sanity, uh, tumblers that are great.

[01:15:32] We’ve been using them here in our house. Plus I have a hand signed. Uh, a bunch of books, uh, you’ll get random How Did This Get Made messages in my book. But if you want something a little bit more personal, go to my website and I’ll be signing and personalizing books for you through Chevalier’s just click on a link, PaulScheer.com we got so much stuff coming, but I know that you probably want to say, Paul, what about my opinions on Q the winged serpent? Well, don’t worry. You’ll get plenty of time to voice those. If you log on to our discord at Discord.gg/HDTGM, you write it up. We read the best ones on Last Looks, but if you’re like Paul, I don’t want to do that.

[01:16:08] Then gives a call at 619-PAULASK plus Jason and I are going to talk about music, especially Star Wars, jizz music. Yes. That’s what they call music in the Star Wars world, or I guess jazz music jizz. And it’s canonical. So don’t, don’t question me on this. Uh, Jason, I will break it all down next week on Last Looks. A big last looks coming up for you.

[01:16:32] So people. We got Christmas gifts. We got shows and we got you. That’s right. We have so many fun shows coming up. I can’t wait for this next month or so until then. Bye for now.